Which Canadian city is the best for me ?

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    Feb 27, 2014 4:04 PM GMT
    Hi everybody !

    I know this is not about sport or gay thing but I need advice icon_smile.gif

    I'm a french exchange architecture student in Québec and I'm currently looking for an internship in Canada. But I don't really know which city may be the most interesting for me ...
    I would like to make the most of this time to discover the country so it would be nice if there are a lot of thing to do around the city, especially in the countryside.
    I'll take any advice you can give me ! ;)

    Bye !


    P.S. : if there is any architect or urban planner who are looking for a intern here, come and ask me ! (We can always hope icon_biggrin.gif)
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    Feb 27, 2014 4:18 PM GMT
    That depends on what you're looking for. Have you spent much time in Montreal?

    The most economically vibrant city / with the most development in Canada (likely North America) is Toronto:
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    (there's a discussion about these stats here which aren't without controversy:
    http://www.thegridto.com/city/local-news/how-many-construction-cranes-does-toronto-really-have-up/)

    But that might not be the kind of development you find interesting? But I would suspect it has the most jobs with a fairly large gay community.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/10/18/cities-best-reputation-toronto_n_4123721.html

    On the other hand, I've had a ton of fun in Montreal though I haven't been in a few years. Not sure I would live there and not sure they've got a particularly strong economy. On the other hand, French would be a lot more of an asset there. Another fairly multilingual area would be Ottawa/Hull - which is considerably smaller than your other centers like Vancouver or Toronto.
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    Feb 27, 2014 4:35 PM GMT
    Thank for the answer, this is very interesting.
    But this is more about the life in the city, activity to do around than about the economy ...
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    Feb 27, 2014 4:49 PM GMT
    Arkitop saidThank for the answer, this is very interesting.
    But this is more about the life in the city, activity to do around than about the economy ...


    What kinds of activities are you looking for? If you like the outdoors, a city like Calgary might be a lot of fun (it's where my significant other's brother moved to ski but his day job is as a programmer - and there's a lot of development there too).

    For culture/history, I think you'd like Toronto or Montreal the best. I'd probably suggest Toronto has the best food/coffee culture (though Vancouver is obviously really good for seafood) How do you like Quebec City? What do you like or dislike about it?
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    Feb 27, 2014 8:13 PM GMT
    Yes, What I'm really looking for is outdoor activities, like camping, hiking, kayaking ... That was nice about Québec, there is a lot of natural reserves where you can do such activities.
    I've heard about Calagry and it looks like a wonderful city !
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    Feb 27, 2014 8:18 PM GMT
    St. John's Newfoundland. The most culture. The most beautiful. The most awesome.
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    Feb 27, 2014 8:27 PM GMT
    Tulkie, Is there any architect on this island ? If yes, I might think of it, it looks nice!

    And for Vancouver, I've heard that the weather was very bad, always raining, but according to what you've said, it may be wrong. I'll check there too !

    Thanks for your answers !
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    Feb 27, 2014 8:28 PM GMT
    Arkitop saidYes, What I'm really looking for is outdoor activities, like camping, hiking, kayaking ... That was nice about Québec, there is a lot of natural reserves where you can do such activities.
    I've heard about Calagry and it looks like a wonderful city !


    Just as a forewarning, I've heard the gay scene isn't as great in Calgary but if you like the outdoors, it's a pretty good city with the Rockies and a lot more opportunities to be eaten by bears when you do said activities (haha), etc than other places in Canada.

    Toronto isn't bad either - but you have to travel a bit longer and the skiing isn't nearly as nice. You also have to go a bit further out for kayaking (though theoretically you can do it in the waters of Lake Ontario which are a bit stinky particularly right near the city). I try to play beach volleyball in the summers in a rec gay league here. There are also a number of places you can go to hike but most of these places involve driving. I'm here (and I drive a lot) so I do have a bias. I'm also not that outdoorsy - though I have gone camping and there are plenty of parks but again, they require some driving.

    Vancouver is similar in that sense to Calgary but it's bigger - though Calgary is growing faster because of the oil money and better business environment. I think it's a bit depressing though as it's cloudy through the year - so even though you don't get that much snow/ice (which is why there's a huge Asian and elderly population there), you get lots of rain and it's sunny for maybe 2 months of the year (and a bit depressing the rest of the time).

    I think most people are listing big cities - except St John's. Do you care how big the city you live in is?
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    Feb 27, 2014 8:29 PM GMT
    I should have said it before : my internship will only be during summer ;)
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    Feb 27, 2014 8:31 PM GMT
    Arkitop saidI should have said it before : my internship will only be during summer ;)


    Then for outdoors, Vancouver is probably your best bet. Weather is best then, and there's a pretty large population if you do want to do stuff in the city. Toronto's heat can be suffocating in the summer. On the other hand... if you decide to stay longer... there is this:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/25/top-10-youthful-cities-in-the-world_n_4339833.html
    "The winner of the world's most youthful city is Toronto. Rob Ford's home ranked No. 1 for all of the following categories: diversity, digital access, youth employment, financial access, economic status, food and nightlife, music and film, fashion and art, public space, and sports and gaming. "
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    Feb 27, 2014 9:14 PM GMT
    Hmm, I know there is a large Quebecois community in Jasper Alberta...
    I would have to suggest Edmonton or Victoria. Edmonton has the greatest prospects though for what your looking to do!
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    Feb 27, 2014 11:40 PM GMT
    Calgary or Vancouver

    I met a large awesome gay community in Vancouver.

    Calgary is least big city problems from what I've read and who I spoke with.
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    Feb 28, 2014 12:08 AM GMT
    Go towards the mountains, i.e. Vancouver or near the Rockies. Toronto would have the best architecture internship opportunities, but you will find it virtually impossible to access the countryside and outdoor activities unless you drive out on the weekends. The range of activities is not very big either -- some forest and lakes -- but there are organized sports. If you go to Vancouver, you will have all water and mountain activities available and accessible by transit, but finding a job or internship will be competitive and you probably won't be able to survive on the internship alone (if you are lucky enough to find a paid one).
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    Feb 28, 2014 2:52 AM GMT
    I'd stay away from Calgary, largely because it's going to be awfully boring for you unless if you can make friends fast - especially friends with cars. Without cars, it's not going to be easy for you to get around... Calgary's public transit system isn't exactly worthy of compliment, and going to the rockies via Greyhound can be costly and unnecessarily time-consuming. There really isn't much to do here in summer except hiking and camping, which you can't really do unless if you have a car/know someone who has a car and would be willing to drive you up there.

    Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are the cities I'd recommend if you are planning on staying here just for the summer. Those three cities have more than enough for you to explore during your internship; just make sure to put some effort into looking up festivals and what not.
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    Feb 28, 2014 3:13 AM GMT
    Si t'es français de France honnêtement t'es mieux d'aller soit à Vancouver, soit à Toronto, soit à Montréal. Ce sont les trois grandes métropoles au Canada et sérieusement à part ces villes là tu te feras vite chier dans les autres provinces.
    Après l'avantage c'est que dans ces trois villes que j'ai cité plus haut t'as toujours l'opportunité de voyager dans les endroits plus "natures" qu'il y a autour tout en rentrant chez soi dans une grande ville.
    Perso j'ai grandi en France et jai déménagé à Montréal y a trois ans et c'est une ville hyper étudiante et dynamique mais si je devais choisir je pense que j'irai à Toronto.
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    Feb 28, 2014 3:18 AM GMT
    For you and your situation? Toronto or maybe Vancouver...you say you like the country, but I'm guessing you won't like places like Calgary/Edmonton etc.
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    Feb 28, 2014 3:24 AM GMT
    I was just in Quebec City.. Wow the history the architecture.. what an amazing city with wonderful people!

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    Feb 28, 2014 4:14 AM GMT
    Arkitop saidHi everybody !

    I know this is not about sport or gay thing but I need advice icon_smile.gif

    I'm a french exchange architecture student in Québec and I'm currently looking for an internship in Canada. But I don't really know which city may be the most interesting for me ...
    I would like to make the most of this time to discover the country so it would be nice if there are a lot of thing to do around the city, especially in the countryside.
    I'll take any advice you can give me ! ;)

    Bye !


    P.S. : if there is any architect or urban planner who are looking for a intern here, come and ask me ! (We can always hope icon_biggrin.gif)


    You will love Calgary,
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    Feb 28, 2014 2:56 PM GMT
    First, Thank you everyone for your answers.
    Then, I'm currently studying in Québec city so I've already seen most of it here and I've already visited Montréal and Toronto, so I would like to see the rest of the Canada. So the West coast seems to be very nice for me. I think I'll try to find an internship in Vancouver but as you said, it may be difficult, so if I can't find there, I'll take a look in Calgary.
    Thank you again !
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    Feb 28, 2014 3:11 PM GMT
    I like Toronto. Lived here for almost 12 years now. It's a city of neighbourhoods. Each one is different with it's own feel and look. There is lots to do here from dining out to theatre, etc.... Plus the guys are hot. ;)

    PS. Calgary is too conservative with a good amount of 'church going' folk. I've heard it compared to cities in Texas.
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    Feb 28, 2014 3:14 PM GMT
    Davidolce saidSi t'es français de France honnêtement t'es mieux d'aller soit à Vancouver, soit à Toronto, soit à Montréal. Ce sont les trois grandes métropoles au Canada et sérieusement à part ces villes là tu te feras vite chier dans les autres provinces.
    Après l'avantage c'est que dans ces trois villes que j'ai cité plus haut t'as toujours l'opportunité de voyager dans les endroits plus "natures" qu'il y a autour tout en rentrant chez soi dans une grande ville.
    Perso j'ai grandi en France et jai déménagé à Montréal y a trois ans et c'est une ville hyper étudiante et dynamique mais si je devais choisir je pense que j'irai à Toronto.


    Je suis d'accord
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    Feb 28, 2014 5:29 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidThe most economically vibrant city / with the most development in Canada (likely North America) is Toronto

    +1

    I would also add "the best city ever" to your list. However, you would have to be able to survive harsh winter conditions; I wouldn't have said this a year ago.
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    Feb 28, 2014 5:42 PM GMT
    Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, got it! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 28, 2014 6:16 PM GMT


    I wonder is there a city like Gotham city where things could be a lot of fun with Batman around. icon_cool.gif

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    Mar 12, 2014 4:14 PM GMT
    Lots of architecture! Oldest European inhabited city in North America.