After Arizona: 5 Other States Considering Anti-Gay Laws

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    Feb 28, 2014 3:56 PM GMT

    http://gma.yahoo.com/arizona-5-other-states-considering-anti-gay-laws-174714251--abc-news-topstories.html

    Georgia
    Idaho
    Mississippi
    Missouri
    Oklahoma


    Is it over yet?


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    Feb 28, 2014 4:10 PM GMT
    Rednecks
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    Feb 28, 2014 4:18 PM GMT
    none of this can stand up in the courts. A big wast of money that could be better spent. Places like Idaho, Mississippi... dont have a lot of money anyway.

    its time for the federal courts to stand up and stop this.

    Given their own druthers places like Idaho would turn into a little Uganda.
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    Feb 28, 2014 4:45 PM GMT
    In Georgia, our first openly gay State Legislature member, Karla Drenner, has been fending off legislation like this fluff floating around for years.

    She's a Democrat in the east Atlanta metro, and has been in the State House since 2000 (State Legislature has since added 3 more LGBT members).

    But annually, since the Republicans took over both chambers, she often notes there's a "Gay Adoption Ban" or "Gay Teacher Ban" bill making the rounds, usually by a Republican in one of our state's more backwoods districts, usually as a sneaky rider on some nondescript bill like Agriculture or something.

    They'd really prefer she doesn't catch it at all. But once she does, this usually results in some twisted quid pro quo where she has to negotiate behind the scenes to support some OTHER pet project of theirs, just so the homophobic legislation never reaches the light of day. She winds up supporting one unrelated GOP bill, in exchange for a vow not that they won't advance the other one.

    It's pure tactics from the state Republican pols: revv up the homophobic base back home by showing how you're "standing for traditional family values", then use the proposed legislation as a threat to help get something far more tangible. It's like they reach across the aisle wearing a barb-wire glove.

    This particular "Religious Freedumb" bill will likely die on the vine in committee THIS session, but there's no doubting some yahoo will dust it off later, probably hoping she or the other LGBT pols will co-sponsor some home-district pork project or something.

    Arizona may have shown that the best thing to do with the Repubs is call their bluff, and see how willing the GOP is to fall flat on their faces by trying to advance homophobic bills on their own.
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    Feb 28, 2014 6:03 PM GMT
    dayumm saidIn Georgia, our first openly gay State Legislature member, Karla Drenner, has been fending off legislation like this fluff floating around for years...
    THANKS, shows some new insight for me.
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    Feb 28, 2014 6:32 PM GMT
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    dayumm saidIn Georgia, our first openly gay State Legislature member, Karla Drenner, has been fending off legislation like this fluff floating around for years...
    THANKS, shows some new insight for me.


    Very welcome. I couldn't find the example articles I was looking for, but here's a sample from back in 2007:

    http://clatl.com/atlanta/the-arnie-awards/Content?oid=1266925

    Creative Loafing - AtlantaThe Setting a Good Example Award

    To Rep. Karla Drenner, D-Decatur

    As the only openly gay member of the Legislature (emphasis on "openly"), Drenner doesn't wield much legislative clout in the GOP-controlled House. But she serves a vital role simply by being her friendly and reasonable self around lawmakers who find her at odds with their backward notion of homosexuals as strident and threatening.

    As the House lurched toward the drop-dead point for bills, Drenner was tipped off on a planned 11th-hour amendment for a ban on adoptions by gays and lesbians. She swung into action, working legislators on both sides of the aisle to sign up to speak in opposition. As the list got longer, House leaders called for adjournment rather than miring themselves in an extended culture-wars debate.

    By many accounts, much of Drenner's success in heading off the noxious measure came from having won the personal respect of her right-wing colleagues – and the example she sets as the mother of two adopted kids. Sometimes decency really is enough.


    Some of that "personal respect" was likely bought, moreso than won. The next year's session, she's interestingly introducing her co-sponsored (but Republican-pushed) bill for State Income Tax Reductions.

    https://votesmart.org/bill/6629/18349/31687/karla-drenner-sponsored-hb-1244-state-income-tax-reductions#.UxDVHvldVME

    UPDATE: This article hits the mark better.

    http://www.gaypolitics.com/2008/04/01/out-georgia-legislator-hamstrung-on-gay-issues/

    Gay Politics“I do know if an adoption measure ever does come to the floor of the [Georgia State] House it will pass, and it won’t be friendly to gay people,” Rep. Karla Drenner told the Southern Voice.

    Basing her stance on the overwhelming passage of the state’s constitutional ban on same-sex partners marrying, Drenner claims that Georgia legislators have tried to leverage votes by threatening anti-gay adoption legislation. Drenner (was)Georgia’s first and only openly gay legislator.

    “I value that issue a lot because I’m a mom, and I know lots of same-sex couples that love their children, or who want to have children,” Drenner told the paper. “So every session I kind of do the same thing where I sit down and I shut up, and I kind of play by their rules, so I can somehow perhaps keep it from coming to the floor.

    Rep. Earl Ehrhart, chair of the Rules Committee that creates the House’s agenda, said that Drenner’s assertion that Republicans were threatening her with a gay adoption ban was silly.
  • SomeSiciliano...

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    Feb 28, 2014 6:55 PM GMT

    As offensive and repugnant as this pending legislation may be; I hope at least one state passes these 'laws' so we can see them shredded in the Federal Court of Appeals. That will put an end to this BS once and for all. icon_evil.gif
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    Feb 28, 2014 8:38 PM GMT
    It's funny how Georigas on the list since it has a very high gay population and most of Georgia is actually in favor of gay marriage and the Atlanta mayor, wants Georgia to be the next state to offer gay marriage...

    Will be interesting to see how this turns out.
  • johndubuque

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    Feb 28, 2014 8:52 PM GMT
    It was good that Jan Brewer vetoed the bill, but I listened to her statement and she talked only about business reasons. She never simply said that discrimination is wrong.
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    Feb 28, 2014 9:56 PM GMT
    johndubuque saidIt was good that Jan Brewer vetoed the bill, but I listened to her statement and she talked only about business reasons. She never simply said that discrimination is wrong.


    Actually, she said that "While Religious freedom is something we hold dear in our state, so is non-discrimination". That was good enough for me.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 01, 2014 1:36 AM GMT
    scruffLA said
    http://gma.yahoo.com/arizona-5-other-states-considering-anti-gay-laws-174714251--abc-news-topstories.html

    Georgia
    Idaho
    Mississippi
    Missouri
    Oklahoma


    Is it over yet?


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    Don't worry, Texas and South Carolina will soon join the pack with idiotic anti-gay initiatives.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 01, 2014 2:25 AM GMT
    SomeSicilianoGuy said
    As offensive and repugnant as this pending legislation may be; I hope at least one state passes these 'laws' so we can see them shredded in the Federal Court of Appeals. That will put an end to this BS once and for all. icon_evil.gif
    Don't worry, Texas will easily fill the bill as the state stupid enough to pass this repugnant anti-gay legislation. It is the Giant Tea Party State after all. Just give the Austin Politburo oops I mean the Texas state legislature time on this one. I am sure that it will be a real dandy that the federal courts will enjoy striking down.icon_biggrin.gificon_lol.gif
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    Mar 01, 2014 2:48 AM GMT
    johndubuque saidIt was good that Jan Brewer vetoed the bill, but I listened to her statement and she talked only about business reasons. She never simply said that discrimination is wrong.


    Brewer said that the bill would have "unintended consequences". WTF? The intended consequences of this blatantly anti gay bill were disgusting.