According to the National Center of Education Statistics, Black women have surpassed every other group in this country based upon race and gender.

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    Mar 03, 2014 4:01 AM GMT
    For the first time in the history of data collection by the National Center of Education Statistics as reported by the US Census, Black women have surpassed every other group in this country based upon race and gender. What does that mean? For the first time in our history, African-American women have surpassed all groups in college entrance based upon race and gender. That's right. African American women enroll in college more than Asian men, white women - you name the group, either race or gender, African American women are number one.

    The percentage difference between African-American Women and the next closest group is striking and now marks the first time this group (or any other group) has surpassed Asian Males. Black Female College Enrollment at 9.7 percent is a full percentage point above the next group which represents an 11.5 percent enrollment rate above Asian Females. This statistic is equally impressive in that in one year, Black Females and Asian Females surpassed Asian Males as the leading group in College enrollment (U.S. Census Bureau, Current Population Survey: October 2010.

    African-American Men have also realized significant gains over the 2000-2011 year periods. From the same data series in 2000, the Black Male College Enrollment rate was 5.2 percent and as of 2011, the rate was measured at 7.0 percent, representing a 34.6 percent increase. This is also a first as there is no longer a significant statistical difference between Black Male College Enrollment and White Female (7.1 percent.) From the Department of Education, iPEDS data reporting set in the academic year 2010-2011 there were 1,444,979 Black Males in post-secondary degree granting institutions (US Only/non-duplicated)

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    Mar 03, 2014 4:12 AM GMT
    As a university graduate, I promise you it means nothing. Umm, congratulations, though, I guess?
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    Mar 03, 2014 4:59 AM GMT
    Sweetooth saidAs a university graduate, I promise you it means nothing. Umm, congratulations, though, I guess?


    Maybe you're unaware of the bad stigma associated with black women, but this was to break some of those stereotypes a bit and to recognize the strides being made amongst them. Not that I didn't expect RJ to downplay it, but I thought I'd share it with you guys anyway.
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    Mar 03, 2014 5:04 AM GMT
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    Sweetooth saidAs a university graduate, I promise you it means nothing. Umm, congratulations, though, I guess?


    Maybe you're unaware of the bad stigma associated with black women, but this was to break some of those stereotypes a bit and to recognize the strides being made amongst them. Not that I didn't expect RJ to downplay it, but I thought I'd share it with you guys anyway.


    OkCupid states black women send out the most messages, yet receive the fewest replies (percentage wise I'm assuming). Adversity builds character and usually keeps people humble (pleasant to be around).


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    Sweetooth saidAs a university graduate, I promise you it means nothing. Umm, congratulations, though, I guess?


    Maybe you're unaware of the bad stigma associated with black women, but this was to break some of those stereotypes a bit and to recognize the strides being made amongst them. Not that I didn't expect RJ to downplay it, but I thought I'd share it with you guys anyway.

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    Mar 03, 2014 5:32 AM GMT
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    AnOriginal said
    BP201 said
    Sweetooth saidAs a university graduate, I promise you it means nothing. Umm, congratulations, though, I guess?


    Maybe you're unaware of the bad stigma associated with black women, but this was to break some of those stereotypes a bit and to recognize the strides being made amongst them. Not that I didn't expect RJ to downplay it, but I thought I'd share it with you guys anyway.


    OkCupid states black women send out the most messages, yet receive the fewest replies (percentage wise I'm assuming). Adversity builds character and usually keeps people humble (pleasant to be around).




    you're talking about a dating site for crying out loud. honestly, i don't think black women really have it as bad as black men do especially in america. any woman will be taken so they don't have to worry about pursuing like us men do. black men on the other hand.. i know for a fact that black women are more likely to be hired than black men. the black male unemployment is way higher than black females. that's not to say black women face shit too BUT it's not as bad as black men.


    It is totally probable for black men to have an advantage in the dating scene relative to black women, and at the same time, for the tables to be reversed at the workplace.

    It is generally held that black guys have the best bodies and other physical "assets", while it's not hard to imagine (due to stereotypes) that one would trust a black woman more than a black man.
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    Mar 03, 2014 5:42 AM GMT
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    Sweetooth saidAs a university graduate, I promise you it means nothing. Umm, congratulations, though, I guess?


    Maybe you're unaware of the bad stigma associated with black women, but this was to break some of those stereotypes a bit and to recognize the strides being made amongst them. Not that I didn't expect RJ to downplay it, but I thought I'd share it with you guys anyway.


    the system would rather have a black woman doing well than a black man though.


    Typical victim response. Black women are getting in college because they're making a fucking effort. "The system" ain't doing shit to keep Black men out of college. Way too many Black guys are wrapped up in thug mentality and that doesn't mix well with college life.
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    Mar 03, 2014 5:47 AM GMT
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    Scruffypup said
    paz_the_gnome said
    BP201 said
    Sweetooth saidAs a university graduate, I promise you it means nothing. Umm, congratulations, though, I guess?


    Maybe you're unaware of the bad stigma associated with black women, but this was to break some of those stereotypes a bit and to recognize the strides being made amongst them. Not that I didn't expect RJ to downplay it, but I thought I'd share it with you guys anyway.


    the system would rather have a black woman doing well than a black man though.


    Typical victim response. Black women are getting in college because they're making a fucking effort. "The system" ain't doing shit to keep Black men out of college. Way too many Black guys are wrapped up in thug mentality and that doesn't mix well with college life.


    why do you speak of things you know nothing about? you don't know shit.


    Alright Einstein.....tell me exactly how "the system" is keeping Black men out of college and yet welcomes Black women. And while you're at it...tell me WHY they would do such a thing in the first place.
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    Mar 03, 2014 6:06 AM GMT
    Can you be anymore ignorant? If I hated Black men I wouldn't have voted for one for president. icon_rolleyes.gif Your problem is you think if a person criticizes the reputation of a race, that makes him a racist. So you really have no idea what that word you throw around so much even means. Black males have a very serious problem in this country and as long as people like you continue to blame it on "the system" or the White man, it's only going to get worse. Speaking of....why is a 30 year old man still living in his mom's basement? "The system" holding ya back?
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    Scruffypup saidCan you be anymore ignorant? If I hated Black men I wouldn't have voted for one for president. icon_rolleyes.gif Your problem is you think if a person criticizes the reputation of a race, that makes him a racist. So you really have no idea what that word you throw around so much even means. Black males have a very serious problem in this country and as long as people like you continue to blame it on "the system" or the White man, it's only going to get worse. Speaking of....why is a 30 year old man still living in his mom's basement? "The system" holding ya back?


    once again, you are IGNORING the fact that the regardless of whether folks try to better themselves or not, the system wants them to fail regardless. we both know this.


    That's retarded. I know no such thing. You're making shit up as usual. You keep repeating "the system" like that's a real thing. You might as well be talking about UFO's or Bigfoot. And why on Earth would anyone want to see Black men fail but be okay with every other minority succeeding (including Black females?) Your argument is empty.
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    Mar 03, 2014 6:30 AM GMT
    Great, that's awesome. I like Black women (lol not in a romantic sense) but yeah I had a crush a mixed Black girl back in 11th grade in HS (when I was confused). She didn't like me though, she went to the prom with this tall Black football player. Most of the ex-colleagues I had who were Black women, they seem great. I worked for Comcast in Hollywood for a while, my ex-supervisor was an African-American lady. She was lovely.
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    Mar 03, 2014 1:23 PM GMT
    Um exactly how does the system at college know you are black?
    In canada at least you are just a set of marks on paper and maybe some supplementary tests or something. If your parents were smart enough to not give you a debilitating name like dashawn jackson or something, and let you watch enough television to speak like you arent from the ghetto, so you can pass the one time english language proficiency exam, you could do a full 4 years without anyone ever knowing what you look like.
    It is not like in undergrad they give a damn about you as person...or perhaps you think when some asian kid is marking math papers they do all the marks then write F anyway. Cry me a river. You are way too full of yourself if you think the system gives a damn about individual students.
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    Mar 03, 2014 4:04 PM GMT
    BP201 saidFor the first time in the history of data collection by the National Center of Education Statistics as reported by the US Census, Black women have surpassed every other group in this country based upon race and gender...

    Very interesting.
    Is there a link to this info?
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    Mar 03, 2014 6:28 PM GMT
    you see, if you take the income of all the black people in the USA, 30million people. and all canadians, also 30 million people. you will find that just because they are american...the black americans on average make more.

    So the SYSTEM you say is holding you back, is just an excuse. If you want to do well in school, there is nothing stopping you. If the vietnamese boat kids can come over with just as much or more discrimination, less money, and to boot a language hurdle, then, your blaming the system has to be looked at with a whole lot of suspicion.

    The only way a system can hold you back in college (which you were talking about) is if they can see your race. Which is why a name like Dashawn is debilitating becauase on paper that is the ONLY way you can tell the person is maybe black (since no other culture would call a kid that. Pick "dave" or something and even that problem goes away, this continues on at interviews where discrimination could become a problem since you are no longer anonymous).

    The reason this isnt a problem in Canada, even with lesser income, is because there is no crutch of "100 years ago people I didnt know had issues". Here, you dont get to play that little card, because all the pakistanis, indians, chinese, vietnamese, arabs, eastern europeans, yugoslavians, and the rest of the poor discriminated against recent immigrants will look at you and say "give us a break...try actually doing some actual studying". It doesnt matter how poor you are, the library is open every day. There is no SYSTEM in schools holding you back. Cry poverty all you want, there are lots of far poorer people succeeding who dont get to play the race card.

    As far as television, I mentioned that, because if you ARE stuck in an area where the language is not the language of successful people, you will at least have some exposure to what those people sound like. You will notice that every other word is not a curse word, and your local dialect is not what is spoken by doctors, lawyers, etc so you can try to imitate it by osmosis no matter how poor your family or school. This is something that you cannot learn from books since it is an exposure thing.
  • Apparition

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    Mar 03, 2014 7:00 PM GMT
    google better sources if you want:

    https://www.facebook.com/MAURICEMANSA/posts/4099512008169

    AFRICAN AMERICAN GDP 2,226.783
    Canada 1,809.315



    http://www.nationalcenter.org/P21NVRobinsonEconomy90211.html

    says 1.2 trillion black USA in 2008

    So yes, THAT is the tax bracket that we are dealing with, one that is pretty much on par.

    You cannot say with one side of your mouth "we are held back by poverty" and then "we are held back by the SYSTEM money doesnt mean anything...after you say the SYSTEM holding you back is because of poverty"

    your logic is contradictory. There IS no system to hold you back. The system doesnt give a damn about you, it is up to you to take what is available.

    I doubt you can show me a single textbook in any public school that doesnt go out of it's way to be inclusive, a single teacher that marks black students less for the same work, or one college board that cares what colour you are if you did the homework. The system is all in your head.
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    Mar 03, 2014 11:02 PM GMT
    Scruffypup and Apparition are at it again.

    Their words might have some truth in them but I'd be hesitant about trusting anything and everything they have to say on this subject. So much pseudo-wisdom comes from their mouths. They obviously harbor some sort of prejudice for blacks except the ones they deem acceptable.