What counts as porn?

  • MarkW1

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    Mar 04, 2014 7:32 PM GMT
    This may sound odd for some of you. But recently I had been told it was only when two people have intercourse. Is this true? I thought it was the case where pictures or videos of hot men/women which arouse viewers.

    It's confusing me since I tend to find myself looking at pics of hot men who are shirtless/showing their bodies or videos of guys getting certain body parts touched or doing strip acts.

    What do you guys reckon?
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    Mar 04, 2014 7:36 PM GMT
    If a it's a video or picture with naked people in sexual situations then yes, it's porn. And that includes masturbation.
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    Mar 04, 2014 7:40 PM GMT
    If there's a closeup shot of a peen going into a bum or mouth, then it's porn.
  • MarkW1

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    Mar 04, 2014 7:43 PM GMT
    I don't really look at that stuff though. I find myself wanting to see hot guys with their shirts off or their underwear pulled down or off showing ass. I don't get why I look at these things when everyone else watches porn. It confuses me big time.
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    Mar 04, 2014 7:46 PM GMT
    ^^ Because you have an appreciation for the male body. There's nothing unusual about it!
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    Mar 04, 2014 7:54 PM GMT
    MarkW1 saidI don't really look at that stuff though. I find myself wanting to see hot guys with their shirts off or their underwear pulled down or off showing ass. I don't get why I look at these things when everyone else watches porn. It confuses me big time.

    The guys above were replying to your question in the usual, or legal sense of the word. "Porn" is the depiction of sexual acts or sexual parts of the human, designed to sexually arouse the view. There is a lot of erotic imagery which is not strictly "porn," and apparently some of that turns you on.

    I would suggest you stop trying to analyze yourself and enjoy - whatever there is to be enjoyed - whether it is types of male images, or actually exploring your sexuality with another guy IRL. Only by actually doing will your "confusion" melt away, as you discover what you like and what you want to do. Whatever turns you on is OK.
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    Mar 04, 2014 8:13 PM GMT
    The word "porn" has a more broad meaning these days. We have food porn, car porn, shoe porn, etc. Basically, the word has been adapted to mean something that is stimulating to the senses.. sight, taste, touch, sound, smell.

    So yes, I suppose in the OP's context, looking at pics of hot shirtless men not performing sexual acts could be considered porn.
  • MarkW1

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    Mar 04, 2014 8:16 PM GMT
    What I'm not understanding is why I'm not fantasising about the same porn (oral, anal, etc) as everyone else. It is bugging me a lot.
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    Mar 04, 2014 8:20 PM GMT
    MarkW1 saidWhat I'm not understanding is why I'm not fantasising about the same porn (oral, anal, etc) as everyone else. It is bugging me a lot.

    Don't put too much thought into it. Your sexual tastes will change over time. When I was younger, I was in a similar situation. Just the imagery of muscular men was enough to get me going. I wasn't particularly interested in actually seeing them do stuff. Totally different story now. icon_lol.gif
  • MarkW1

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    Mar 04, 2014 8:40 PM GMT
    xrichx said
    MarkW1 saidWhat I'm not understanding is why I'm not fantasising about the same porn (oral, anal, etc) as everyone else. It is bugging me a lot.

    Don't put too much thought into it. Your sexual tastes will change over time. When I was younger, I was in a similar situation. Just the imagery of muscular men was enough to get me going. I wasn't particularly interested in actually seeing them do stuff. Totally different story now. icon_lol.gif

    I wish I would know more people like yourself with this experience. It would greatly help me.

    Yeah, HikerSkier I would love to stop over-analysing this, but I have OCD so if it's something I worry about then very likely will. Body parts like pecs, abs and ass really turn me on so like looking at them...like I do in real life haha. Big arms and toned legs are also hot. When one guy has them all with short shorts and a vest my eyes will never look elsewhere. (Note this happened at the gym the other day :$ ) It's that I enjoy seeing, not porn acts.
  • MikeW

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    Mar 04, 2014 9:13 PM GMT
    xrichx saidThe word "porn" has a more broad meaning these days. We have food porn, car porn, shoe porn, etc. Basically, the word has been adapted to mean something that is stimulating to the senses.. sight, taste, touch, sound, smell.

    So yes, I suppose in the OP's context, looking at pics of hot shirtless men not performing sexual acts could be considered porn.

    In his (ahem) seminal work, "Portrat of the Artist as a Young Man,"James Joyce defined pornography as ANY form of art the moves the viewer to *desire*. Thus, by this standard, any advertisement that moves one to desire the object advertised is not art (proper) but "pornography".
  • MarkW1

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    Mar 04, 2014 9:18 PM GMT
    MikeW said
    xrichx saidThe word "porn" has a more broad meaning these days. We have food porn, car porn, shoe porn, etc. Basically, the word has been adapted to mean something that is stimulating to the senses.. sight, taste, touch, sound, smell.

    So yes, I suppose in the OP's context, looking at pics of hot shirtless men not performing sexual acts could be considered porn.

    In his (ahem) seminal work, "Portrat of the Artist as a Young Man,"James Joyce defined pornography as ANY form of art the moves the viewer to *desire*. Thus, by this standard, any advertisement that moves one to desire the object advertised is not art (proper) but "pornography".

    I'm not sure I understand what you mean mate.
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    Mar 04, 2014 9:20 PM GMT

    MarkW1 porn is graphic depictions of any activity involving the genitals, whether in groups of people or singly, that have the intent of sexual climax. icon_wink.gif
  • MikeW

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    Mar 04, 2014 9:28 PM GMT
    MarkW1 said
    MikeW said
    xrichx saidThe word "porn" has a more broad meaning these days. We have food porn, car porn, shoe porn, etc. Basically, the word has been adapted to mean something that is stimulating to the senses.. sight, taste, touch, sound, smell.

    So yes, I suppose in the OP's context, looking at pics of hot shirtless men not performing sexual acts could be considered porn.

    In his (ahem) seminal work, "Portrat of the Artist as a Young Man,"James Joyce defined pornography as ANY form of art the moves the viewer to *desire*. Thus, by this standard, any advertisement that moves one to desire the object advertised is not art (proper) but "pornography".

    I'm not sure I understand what you mean mate.

    I'm being a bit irrelevant, but only a bit.

    You asked, "What counts as pornography." I'm answering, it depends on who is defining the word.

    James Joyce's definition arises in the context of defining what "art" is. Joyce says there are two forms of art "proper" and "improper". Improper art educates or moves the viewer (the latter defined by him as "pornography"). Proper art puts the viewer in a sate of "aesthetic arrest" -- puts them in a state of wonder you might say. In this there is no motivation to "do" anything.

    It's just a point of interest; not a statement on your erotic preferences.