Would you Give To The Red Cross? 4 Reasons To This Month :)

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    Mar 04, 2014 11:58 PM GMT
    March is National Red Cross Month and I lead the charge for my Fraternity (nationally) regarding our Blood, Sweat & Cash program (to be the largest single donor of all three to the ARC by 2025).

    Part of our push is collecting online donations through Rally.org, a crowd-funding website developed by one of our members. If any of you are looking to give anything ($1-$100 . . . or more!) this is a great time to help.

    Reasons to give this March:

    1. You're a member of another fraternity (consider yourself inter fraternal)

    2. You or a loved one has been affected by a natural or local disaster (earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, house fires, chemical leaks, etc.)

    3. You or a loved one has ever been affected by the hardships of military life. The Red Cross helps military families adjust to life with loved ones overseas and can deliver important messages to troops, even across enemy lines.

    4. You or a loved one has ever been saved by CPR or a blood transfusion. (6 of our chapters train all of their members in CPR and each pint of blood can save up to 3 lives)

    I know there are some mixed opinions regarding blood donor laws and I hope my fraternity chooses to address the discrimination against travelers and gay men and women soon, but the fact is this charity does save lives on a global scale and I'm committed to it.

    https://rally.org/bloodsweatcash is the place to support! Click "I'm In" to show support, donate to demonstrate support or sign on as a fan fundraiser if you want to super support.
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    Mar 05, 2014 2:02 AM GMT
    YourName2000 saidPffft. Fuck the Red Cross. Them and the Salvation Army are two of the few organizations that still treat gays like contagious lepers.

    I can't fucking believe you'd post this shit when if you had a clue, you'd realize they'd punt your ass out the door so fast, your ears would pop.

    FUCK THE RED CROSS

    Sad but true.
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    Mar 05, 2014 2:09 AM GMT
    http://www.redcross.org/:
    Posted Jun 26,2013

    Blood donation eligibility in the United States is determined by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). AABB, America’s Blood Centers and the Red Cross believe the current lifetime deferral for men who have had sex with other men (MSM) should be modified and donor deferral criteria should be made comparable with criteria for other behaviors that pose an increased risk for transmission of transfusion-transmitted infections.

    Seems it's not the organizations that are opposed to gays donating but the FDA who has not changed their policies.
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    Mar 05, 2014 2:12 AM GMT
    So yeah, blood donations are always needed. It really does help save lives. If you're not a fan of the Red Cross, check with your local hospitals. Some/most do have their own blood donation programs.
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    Mar 05, 2014 2:15 AM GMT
    paz_the_gnome saidwas about to ask about the red cross being homophobic too because i coulda swore i heard that they weren't down lgbtq folks or were giving money to the anti gay organization but wasn't too sure since this was awhile back. thanks for the info.

    indeed. fuck the red cross.

    It goes back to their blood donation "rules". I think they changed it recently. But for many years, they listed "homosexual men" as a disqualifier for blood donations.

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    Just saw eb925guy's post. Basically, what he posted.
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    Mar 05, 2014 2:40 AM GMT
    At any rate BroTie, you're innocently trying to do something good for the community, and you should be praised for that. I suggest you ask some questions about their blood donation policies before making any rash decisions.
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    Mar 05, 2014 2:49 AM GMT
    I occasionally donate to the red cross if there is a specific crisis situation going on and if they are the only ones effectively providing disaster relief. However, in general I seek out other organizations because of the red cross's blood donation restrictions. And , if the fda is to blame, then I'd still want the red cross to lobby and advocate harder with the fda to get the rules changed before I'd consider donating more regularly with them.
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    Mar 05, 2014 1:59 PM GMT
    To place the blame entirely on the Red Cross is ridiculous. We are citizens, we have the right to petition federal law and regulations and sue the hell out of them when those regulations are unjust.

    They are a non-profit, how much of their income should they spend lobbying to change one law as opposed to setting up blood centers across the country and sending millions in aid? It's not their mission to change federal law, we have voters who determine the importance of issues.

    Like I said, I figured some would have ill will toward the organization because of the rule, but it's not a Red Cross-specific rule, it's nationwide. Realistically, they provide a much needed service that no other organization does on such a worldwide and efficient scale.

    So for those of you who like em, I'm simply promoting Red Cross month. For those of you who don't, enjoy hanging out on Realjock complaining at me instead of going to a town hall meeting and being the citizen you should be.
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    Mar 05, 2014 5:21 PM GMT
    10 years ago i decided to stop to give to charities , too much of the money given are slipping away from where it should land !
    Instead off , i will help directly family in needs with food , clothes , etc ..
    I do the same thing with animal shelter , i bring them food , toys , blanket and i volunteer for them as much as i can ..icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 08, 2014 7:46 PM GMT
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    BROTIE saidTo place the blame entirely on the Red Cross is ridiculous. We are citizens, we have the right to petition federal law and regulations and sue the hell out of them when those regulations are unjust.

    They are a non-profit, how much of their income should they spend lobbying to change one law as opposed to setting up blood centers across the country and sending millions in aid? It's not their mission to change federal law, we have voters who determine the importance of issues.

    Like I said, I figured some would have ill will toward the organization because of the rule, but it's not a Red Cross-specific rule, it's nationwide. Realistically, they provide a much needed service that no other organization does on such a worldwide and efficient scale.

    So for those of you who like em, I'm simply promoting Red Cross month. For those of you who don't, enjoy hanging out on Realjock complaining at me instead of going to a town hall meeting and being the citizen you should be.

    Oh shut up. icon_rolleyes.gif

    You don't even live in the U.S. . .

    I'm not sure if Canada has the same restrictions, given how courteous y'all stereotypically are and all, but your butt has clearly been hurt by more than a blond man with a red beard. ;)
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    Mar 08, 2014 7:50 PM GMT
    The Red Cross used to charge soldiers for the hamburgers, candy and other items given during the war. The CEO and the other higher ups pull in millions yearly...
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    Mar 08, 2014 7:52 PM GMT
    mybud saidThe Red Cross used to charge soldiers for the hamburgers, candy and other items given during the war. The CEO and the other higher ups pull in millions yearly...


    sounds like the rotten soul of capitalism is still intact
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    Mar 08, 2014 8:00 PM GMT
    After the Red Cross fucked around with 9-11 donations, they lost me. Never again - not one fucking dime.
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    Mar 08, 2014 8:01 PM GMT
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    mybud saidThe Red Cross used to charge soldiers for the hamburgers, candy and other items given during the war. The CEO and the other higher ups pull in millions yearly...


    sounds like the rotten soul of capitalism is still intact


    NO, it's the rotten soul of white Liberal do-goodism.
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    Mar 08, 2014 8:04 PM GMT
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    paz_the_gnome saidwas about to ask about the red cross being homophobic too because i coulda swore i heard that they weren't down lgbtq folks or were giving money to the anti gay organization but wasn't too sure since this was awhile back. thanks for the info.

    indeed. fuck the red cross.

    It goes back to their blood donation "rules". I think they changed it recently. But for many years, they listed "homosexual men" as a disqualifier for blood donations.

    EDIT:
    Just saw eb925guy's post. Basically, what he posted.


    Missing the real issue on blood donations. It's a scam. When you hear there is a blood shortage, know that it's bullshit.

    Blood centers sell blood to hospitals for a handsome sum.

    Like any other commodity, blood is subject to market influences. When the price takes a dive, blood centers routinely dump thousands of quarts down the drain.
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    Mar 09, 2014 6:32 PM GMT
    mybud saidThe CEO and the other higher ups pull in millions yearly...

    +1

    The CEO and other executives are WAY overpaid. I would only give to the Red Cross if I knew that all the money given were going to some specific relief project - even then, the Red Cross is not the best organized relief agency.
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    Mar 09, 2014 7:13 PM GMT
    neffa said10 years ago i decided to stop to give to charities , too much of the money given are slipping away from where it should land !
    Instead off , i will help directly family in needs with food , clothes , etc ..
    I do the same thing with animal shelter , i bring them food , toys , blanket and i volunteer for them as much as i can ..icon_biggrin.gif


    +1

    It's great to see the progression of the people that you help directly.
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    Mar 09, 2014 9:51 PM GMT
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    mybud saidThe CEO and the other higher ups pull in millions yearly...

    +1

    The CEO and other executives are WAY overpaid. I would only give to the Red Cross if I knew that all the money given were going to some specific relief project - even then, the Red Cross is not the best organized relief agency.


    The CEO's salary is $500,000 of which he publicly gives back at least $200,000 to the Red Cross. I'm not sure of his bonus potential.

    Please tell me of any $2 billion organization where you expect a CEO to make anything less than millions of dollars. He's running the largest non-profit on the planet, heaven forbid the guy get a paycheck less than 1/10th of what he'd earn at a for-profit company.

    As far as blood goes, it's free to give and it saves lives, heaven forbid you waste 10 minutes with a needle in your arm and it doesn't find use.
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    Mar 09, 2014 9:58 PM GMT
    BROTIE saidAs far as blood goes, it's free to give and it saves lives, heaven forbid you waste 10 minutes with a needle in your arm and it doesn't find use.
    But that's illegal.
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    Mar 09, 2014 10:01 PM GMT
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    BROTIE saidAs far as blood goes, it's free to give and it saves lives, heaven forbid you waste 10 minutes with a needle in your arm and it doesn't find use.
    But that's illegal.
    So is going above the speed limit.

    There was a case of that following 9/11 when they over collected for no apparent reason. That's the only case.
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    Mar 09, 2014 10:04 PM GMT
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    Trolliosis said
    BROTIE saidAs far as blood goes, it's free to give and it saves lives, heaven forbid you waste 10 minutes with a needle in your arm and it doesn't find use.
    But that's illegal.
    So is going above the speed limit.
    Wait... You're telling me to lie?
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    Mar 09, 2014 10:16 PM GMT
    I was just looking at the schedule in today's paper, and I will be donating blood this month.
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    Mar 09, 2014 10:32 PM GMT
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    BROTIE said
    Trolliosis said
    BROTIE saidAs far as blood goes, it's free to give and it saves lives, heaven forbid you waste 10 minutes with a needle in your arm and it doesn't find use.
    But that's illegal.
    So is going above the speed limit.
    Wait... You're telling me to lie?


    are you a buggerer, do you share needles, have you recently gotten a tattoo, do you have hepatitis, have you sold your body for sex, have you paid for sex?

    Blood donors are asked many questions that relate to the likelihood of you possibly having bad blood. If you're taking certain meds and have visited certain countries you'll also be excluded. A lot of innocent people became HIV+ in the 80's because of infected blood donated by gay men and i.v. drug users. They need to weed out certain individuals to make the donation process easier.
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    Mar 09, 2014 10:49 PM GMT
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    Trolliosis said
    BROTIE said
    Trolliosis said
    BROTIE saidAs far as blood goes, it's free to give and it saves lives, heaven forbid you waste 10 minutes with a needle in your arm and it doesn't find use.
    But that's illegal.
    So is going above the speed limit.
    Wait... You're telling me to lie?


    are you a buggerer, do you share needles, have you recently gotten a tattoo, do you have hepatitis, have you sold your body for sex, have you paid for sex?

    Blood donors are asked many questions that relate to the likelihood of you possibly having bad blood. If you're taking certain meds and have visited certain countries you'll also be excluded. A lot of innocent people became HIV+ in the 80's because of infected blood donated by gay men and i.v. drug users. They need to weed out certain individuals to make the donation process easier.


    What if they decided to "weed out" Black people because of Sickle Cell Anemia? How do you suppose that would go over? icon_confused.gif
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    Mar 09, 2014 10:57 PM GMT
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    BROTIE said
    Trolliosis said
    BROTIE saidAs far as blood goes, it's free to give and it saves lives, heaven forbid you waste 10 minutes with a needle in your arm and it doesn't find use.
    But that's illegal.
    So is going above the speed limit.

    There was a case of that following 9/11 when they over collected for no apparent reason. That's the only case.

    It's illegal to give, you moron. We're gay....not allowed to donate blood.

    How fucking stupid are you?? icon_confused.gif

    http://www.nbcnews.com/health/mens-health/banned-life-why-gay-men-still-cant-donate-blood-f6C10622947


    Man you're aggressive.

    He replied to a comment about dumping blood so I assumed he was referring to that.

    Regardless, donating blood was not the purpose of this particular topic, so harping on that is a little off-topic. The issue is with the FDA not the Red Cross, Heart Association or thousands of hospitals that collect blood.