Deadly Dog Treats Back on Store Shelves

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    Mar 05, 2014 12:32 PM GMT
    http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2014/03/05/pet-jerky-treats.aspx?e_cid=20140305Z1_US-CA_PetsNL_art_1&utm_source=petnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20140305Z1_US-CA&et_cid=DM40260&et_rid=445834692
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    Mar 05, 2014 5:25 PM GMT
    If for sure is a bloody shame !
    Because of that , i will boycott all NESTLE products sold in Australia and the U.S icon_sad.gif
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    Mar 05, 2014 5:30 PM GMT
    My three year old dog died of kidney failure. We had no clue how she got it, but we put two and two together and figured out it was because of these fucking things. Avoid avoid avoid.
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    Mar 05, 2014 5:39 PM GMT
    Roms saidMy three year old dog died of kidney failure. We had no clue how she got it, but we put two and two together and figured out it was because of these fucking things. Avoid avoid avoid.


    Sorry to hear about your dog. icon_cry.gif

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    Mar 05, 2014 5:42 PM GMT
    It's so easy to make your own dehydrated treats, as mentioned in the article. One thing I do for my dogs is I take a reusable hollow bone and stuff it with canned tripe, then place it in the freezer. If I have to leave the house for a while, I'll give them those and it keeps them busy for hours.
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    Mar 05, 2014 5:51 PM GMT
    Roms saidMy three year old dog died of kidney failure. We had no clue how she got it, but we put two and two together and figured out it was because of these fucking things. Avoid avoid avoid.


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    Mar 05, 2014 6:25 PM GMT
    Aww thanks guys. It happened a few years ago so I'm at peace with it. The fact that it was preventable and negligence on their part is definitely aggravating. Just trying to spread a little awareness now - this thing isn't a hoax. If I were to guess, the number is much higher than 600 deaths.
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    Mar 05, 2014 6:35 PM GMT
    My friends are always making fun of me for only giving Athena natural treats. She loves sweet potatoes lol just cut em to size for you pup.and your good to go icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 05, 2014 6:40 PM GMT
    _Behemoth_ saidMy friends are always making fun of me for only giving Athena natural treats. She loves sweet potatoes lol just cut em to size for you pup.and your good to go icon_smile.gif


    What kind of doggy you got?
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    Mar 05, 2014 7:04 PM GMT
    Shepard/lab she's in my profile pics
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    Mar 05, 2014 8:45 PM GMT
    Thanks for posting. I won't buy any products from China. But I've found out that even US food products use chemicals or ingredients from China, India, Australia, or wherever anyway. I try to make chicken jerky myself for my dog when I can. Just boil and then slice, and dry out in a low temp dehydrator or toaster oven.
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    Mar 05, 2014 8:46 PM GMT
    Domestic bully sticks only for my babies!
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    Mar 05, 2014 8:52 PM GMT
    Nestle is a gargantuan, shitty Swiss company that poisons the planet with shit (and is hugely profitable doing it)
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    Mar 05, 2014 9:09 PM GMT
    The article says: "You can also offer small amounts – no more than 1/8 inch square for a cat or small dog and a 1/4 inch square for bigger dogs – of other fruits (melons and apples are good fruits to start with) as well as cheese…"

    That's very tiny. I can't even imagine cutting fruit into a 1/8" square. That's about this — long. icon_eek.gif
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    Mar 05, 2014 9:43 PM GMT
    icon_rolleyes.gif Check the domain name of the post. Negative credibility. Shilling for their own "magical" products.
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    Mar 05, 2014 10:30 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidicon_rolleyes.gif Check the domain name of the post. Negative credibility. Shilling for their own "magical" products.

    My impression is that Mercola is a Dr. Phil / Dr. Oz wannabe. Or the internet version of those two.
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    Mar 05, 2014 10:34 PM GMT
    MikeW saidThe article says: "You can also offer small amounts – no more than 1/8 inch square for a cat or small dog and a 1/4 inch square for bigger dogs – of other fruits (melons and apples are good fruits to start with) as well as cheese…"

    That's very tiny. I can't even imagine cutting fruit into a 1/8" square. That's about this — long. icon_eek.gif

    What they're trying to say is that the size doesn't really matter, that you can make your treats as small as you can make them. Unlike us, dogs don't have a concept of a big treat versus a small treat. They're just as happy getting a treat that's the size of a grain of rice versus one that's as big as your thumb. If you're using food rewards for training the tiny treats work just as well.
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    Mar 05, 2014 10:34 PM GMT
    I often wonder if the dog food at the grocery store is just as toxic as the people food.icon_idea.gif
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    Mar 05, 2014 10:50 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidI often wonder if the dog food at the grocery store is just as toxic as the people food.icon_idea.gif


    of course it is, Nestle does a lot of "healthcare" also, so they fuck you both ways
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    Mar 05, 2014 10:56 PM GMT
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    MikeW saidThe article says: "You can also offer small amounts – no more than 1/8 inch square for a cat or small dog and a 1/4 inch square for bigger dogs – of other fruits (melons and apples are good fruits to start with) as well as cheese…"

    That's very tiny. I can't even imagine cutting fruit into a 1/8" square. That's about this — long. icon_eek.gif

    What they're trying to say is that the size doesn't really matter, that you can make your treats as small as you can make them. Unlike us, dogs don't have a concept of a big treat versus a small treat. They're just as happy getting a treat that's the size of a grain of rice versus one that's as big as your thumb. If you're using food rewards for training the tiny treats work just as well.

    Well, I'm glad you're smart enough to figure that out. I'd be sitting there at the kitchen table like a total fucking idiot with a steak knife trying to slice a perfect 1/8" cube of watermelon to feed my cat figuring if I didn't get it exactly right my poor pussy would go belly up and die. And if you've ever tried to slice watermelon that small you know how time consuming that'd be. I mean, why the fuck don't people just say what they mean instead of assuming retards like me are going to be able to figure out that what they actually said wasn't what they actually meant?
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    Mar 05, 2014 10:57 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidI often wonder if the dog food at the grocery store is just as toxic as the people food.icon_idea.gif


    Yes it is. This is why I feed my dogs human food. I know our food has it's issues too, but it's better than feeding them that crap they call "dog food." I buy human meat from the grocery store for them. My dogs never ever get commercial dog food.
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    Mar 05, 2014 11:03 PM GMT
    somersault said
    HottJoe saidI often wonder if the dog food at the grocery store is just as toxic as the people food.icon_idea.gif

    of course it is, Nestle does a lot of "healthcare" also, so they fuck you both ways

    I have a friend… a total Mercola junkie, her refrigerator is FULL of supplements she's purchased *but never even opened*… some of them have been in there (and I swear to Holy God I'm not making this up) for over 5 years… who buys whole organic chicken at the butcher, has them grind the damn thing up, bones and all, into chicken burger, which she then feeds to her Bichon Frise, "Beatrice," both raw and cooked. What irritates the fuck out of me is sometimes the raw meat goes bad on the dog's plate sitting on the kitchen floor but my "friend" is so lame she doesn't even notice. I mean it stinks like, well, dead meat and of course the dog isn't going to eat it. But, there it sits, rank as shit.

    I agree we're all being poisoned but people are just nuts.
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    Mar 05, 2014 11:07 PM GMT
    MikeW saidI mean, why the fuck don't people just say what they mean instead of assuming retards like me are going to be able to figure out that what they actually said wasn't what they actually meant?

    Hey, they were very clear: no more than 1/8 inch square. icon_twisted.gif

    Trust me, how good it smells is all that matters, not how big it is. I used to make dried chicken livers for my first dog. He'd go berserk for the tiniest piece.
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    Mar 05, 2014 11:13 PM GMT
    To some extend, and perhaps to a large extent, healthy food for pets doesn't matter, because their lives are too short for the bad stuff to have its cumulative effect.

    I'd asked my vet, who was the best, about what would happen if my dog got X (can't remember what it was; some joint problem no doubt) and she said that we could give the dog cortisone for the rest of its life. Long term cortisone (a steroid as I understand it) use causes problems in humans. So I said something to that effect, leaving out the "in humans" part. She waved it off saying that dogs don't live long enough for the problems to develop.
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    Mar 06, 2014 1:30 AM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidTo some extend, and perhaps to a large extent, healthy food for pets doesn't matter, because their lives are too short for the bad stuff to have its cumulative effect.

    Well then…. /thread! icon_razz.gif