Jewish Jocks

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    Mar 07, 2014 1:31 AM GMT
    When I was young, Sandy Koufax was our great hero. Part of it was that he was one of the few Jewish athletes widely known, and in that time, one of the only ones. The Jewish ideal has long been the intellectual rather than the athlete. But this has also changed, as athletics have become perhaps part of the curriculum in Jewish education or more valued. Young Jewish men these days look much taller and stronger than my generation, and far more than my grandparent's generation. I suspect it is also which men young women are choosing to marry. I can now see three generations younger than mine, and there is a real difference.
    Where my generation's ideal was Abbie Hoffman, the next one's was Jerry Seinfeld, and the next one's was more like Adam Sandler or Sascha Baron Cohen, and the next....
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    Mar 07, 2014 1:49 AM GMT
    My maternal grandmother was a school swim champ and my maternal grandfather was regional handball champ, kept a great bod through his elder years.

    My paternal grandmother was a vaudeville dancer and paternal grandpa was quite the stud. I only met him very few times but even in his probably it was his 60s my memory is that he kept in excellent shape. In fact, I remember he scared me because as soon as my ol'man opened the door to greet him instead of saying hi he complained about my father's smoking.

    My father was never in great shape but he's still quite healthy into his mid 80s and my mom swam laps throughout her life and kept a gorgeous figure.

    In fact, it is inherent to Jewish life, keeping in shape, not just intellectually but in body. Why do you think no pork? It isn't because the rabbi's wife didn't feel like cooking. It's because they noticed it makes people sick and die.

    Per quick and easy random google...

    http://www.jewishmag.com/145mag/health_foods/health_foods.htm

    “Since a healthy and whole body is in keeping with the service to G-d, since it is impossible to understand or know anything about G-d when one is sick, therefore one must distance himself from those things which ruin the body and instead should accustom himself to those things which cause the body to heal and mend...” ~~ Rambam's Mishnah Torah, circa 1204

    PS, Even my temple growing up had one of the best gymnasiums in northern Jersey where professional basketball players would practice. We had a trampoline in there that I loved and I often swam laps right under the sanctuary. I won't even mention the steam room.
  • hebrewman

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    Mar 07, 2014 3:17 PM GMT
    great thread guys
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    Mar 07, 2014 4:26 PM GMT
    Andaman saidJewish Jocks

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    Am I wrong or isn't it a given among young Jews today that there are lots of Jewish college and professional athletes? Though the question is who's buying this 2012 book, Jews or Gentiles:

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  • LJay

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    Mar 07, 2014 4:42 PM GMT
    This may be betraying my egalitarian preferences, but it seems a little odd to even be concerned with the religious background of Sandy Koufax or any other sports figure. Who cares? He played baseball.
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    Mar 07, 2014 4:48 PM GMT
    For all the old jokes about Jewish looks and stuff when you see videos of the IDF and Jewish guys in the army......lot of hotties!Damn
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    Mar 07, 2014 4:50 PM GMT
    WickedRyan saidFor all the old jokes about Jewish looks and stuff when you see videos of the IDF and Jewish guys in the army......lot of hotties!Damn


    "You can't hide the hook (nose)"!!

    -Totie Fields to Chiam Witz in the 1970s
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    Mar 07, 2014 6:50 PM GMT
    LJay saidThis may be betraying my egalitarian preferences, but it seems a little odd to even be concerned with the religious background of Sandy Koufax or any other sports figure. Who cares? He played baseball.


    I think if you look at the OP's OP. as well, frankly, at the OP of the OP's OP (& didn't I see something quickly in another thread by him indicating of a touch of negativity about keeping a body?)

    So when I read the OP here, it struck me as an attempt to if not blame, possibly explain away as a conditioned behavior obesity supposedly due to some zeitgeist perpetrated in some real senses by media.

    It could be argued that part of that is the self-deprecations of Jewish humorists and maybe even of the studios themselves. It is not uncommon to joke now that Jews don't do sports, which of course is not true but it is said. It's no excuse to puff up. I blame all my puffiness not on TV but on mother where blame belongs, on her death, and my other deaths, and the betrayals and their subsequent depressions upon me, certainly not on being Jewish. Though I am pleased to announce that I'm down from 223#/23% bf, ick, to 205#/17%, eh, thank you very much and still working on that. I can't believe how fucking fat I got. Ick. And all those Mallomars didn't even bring anyone back from the dead as advertised.

    In my large extended family going back to generations from the 1800s that I've known or heard of, I can only think of two relatives who were seriously fat. An uncle I never liked and he hurt himself by consumption. And his daughter upon whom he inflicted psychological damages. But that's about it.

    I do have a Jewish education of five years of my youth. Not just Sunday school but Tues, Thurs, Sundays as well as Sat services and sometimes Friday nights. Though most of that time, of course, I was in the steam room, shhhhh, don't tell the cantor.

    So having such a background and raised by a family that valued good health--gramps had those tacky trophies all over the house--I never thought of the jokes as anything more than jokes. Also having family in entertainment, I know media is bullshit. So the jokes never described to me our culture. But I think it interesting that even Jewish people might think so. And I think that's what the OP expressed except he took the propaganda in as real or as something to explain away how he feels about maintaining a good bod.

    Now, are you going to eat the rest of that knish?
  • ASHDOD

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    Mar 07, 2014 6:59 PM GMT
    there are just to many hot guys in israel, the competicion is imposible icon_evil.gif but as i understand ''jockness''[ lol] we dont have that here.
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    Mar 07, 2014 7:06 PM GMT
    LJay saidThis may be betraying my egalitarian preferences, but it seems a little odd to even be concerned with the religious background of Sandy Koufax or any other sports figure. Who cares? He played baseball.


    judaism is not only a religion ,its also a nation [btw not all jews see themselves as both ,and they identify themselves only with one]
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    Mar 07, 2014 7:07 PM GMT
    Pics of Hot Jewish Jocks? icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 07, 2014 7:27 PM GMT
    From what I've seen, Jewish guys tend to gravitate toward wrestling in no small number: my high school team included, among others, a Goldstein, a Farber, and a Gordon (same as Goldstein only different - you know that story.) I remarked on this once to a friend, much more recently, as we heard yet another member of the chosen people announced as a match winner in a tournament. He - raised in New England - immediately agreed: "Those Jewish boys love their wrestling!" Why ask why, when kosher eye candy is as tasty as it usually is? icon_twisted.gif

    The real question in 2014 is: What the hell happened to all the Jewish doctors and dentists??? The short answer is "Asians" - the latest group of overachievers that's stereotyped, not without reason, as clannish and stingy and pushy the same way Jews were in the 1900's. But there's got to be more to it. Maybe ongoing assimilation and "threatening" rates of intermarriage have made y'all start to go soft?
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    Mar 07, 2014 7:33 PM GMT
    LJay saidThis may be betraying my egalitarian preferences, but it seems a little odd to even be concerned with the religious background of Sandy Koufax or any other sports figure. Who cares? He played baseball.


    BECAUSE...icon_rolleyes.gif
    Housing covenants, "restricted" clubs, and other discriminatory practices aren't that far behind us. Even now some organizations (glaring at country clubs) turn away Jewish applicants across the board. And anti-Semitism has a long way to go before vanishing from the planet.
    Such a lame-azz question is equal to, "Who cares who Michael Sam sleeps with? He plays football." SMH
  • LJay

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    Mar 07, 2014 8:13 PM GMT
    That we can discuss such things is certainly good.

    That we should feel that we need to is where I feel the shaky ground. Yes, there are Jewish athletes. There are also Californian athletes. So?
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    Mar 07, 2014 8:19 PM GMT
    LJay saidThat we can discuss such things is certainly good.

    That we should feel that we need to is where I feel the shaky ground. Yes, there are Jewish athletes. There are also Californian athletes. So?

    Your Richmond is showing.
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    Mar 07, 2014 9:34 PM GMT
    LJay saidThis may be betraying my egalitarian preferences, but it seems a little odd to even be concerned with the religious background of Sandy Koufax or any other sports figure. Who cares? He played baseball.


    Just like many Mormons have been very good at sport too.
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    Mar 07, 2014 10:08 PM GMT
    Shark_cuterie said
    LJay saidThat we can discuss such things is certainly good.

    That we should feel that we need to is where I feel the shaky ground. Yes, there are Jewish athletes. There are also Californian athletes. So?

    Your Richmond is showing.


    Perhaps. Is it time to switch from sherry to bourbon yet?
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    Mar 07, 2014 10:29 PM GMT
    Gabe Kapler! What a stud. I first heard about him when he was playing for the Detroit Tigers.

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    Mar 08, 2014 3:04 AM GMT
    The second guy I dated was Jewish. Only about 5' 5 but really nice proportions and build. Anyhow, not related to this thread exactly, but brought back some nice memories. icon_cool.gif
  • hebrewman

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    Mar 08, 2014 1:16 PM GMT
    wrestling eh? loved it in junior and senior high. for me, it was a 'legitimate' excuse to have close contact with other guys. maybe that's why i'm a defacto 'kosher pig' at heart. an armpit to the face? no problem. a crotch up close, even better. the scent of a guy who's been sweating during a match, BRING IT ON. icon_wink.gificon_wink.gif
  • RSportsguy

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    Mar 08, 2014 1:22 PM GMT
    I watched a great documentary on Baseball Hall of Famer Hank Greenberg! He endured many antisemitic taunts when he played for the Tigers in the 30's and 40's! He was one of the first professional baseball players to enlist in the armed services during World War 2 also!
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    Mar 08, 2014 1:51 PM GMT
    Blakes7 said
    WickedRyan saidFor all the old jokes about Jewish looks and stuff when you see videos of the IDF and Jewish guys in the army......lot of hotties!Damn


    "You can't hide the hook (nose)"!!

    -Totie Fields to Chiam Witz in the 1970s



    Chiam Witz is also known as Gene Simmons of KISS
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    Mar 08, 2014 2:35 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidGabe Kapler! What a stud. I first heard about him when he was playing for the Detroit Tigers.

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    I agree 100%. This guy is definitely a gorgeous, muscular hunk.icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 08, 2014 3:03 PM GMT
    Shark_cuterie said
    LJay saidThat we can discuss such things is certainly good.

    That we should feel that we need to is where I feel the shaky ground. Yes, there are Jewish athletes. There are also Californian athletes. So?

    Your Richmond is showing.


    well, you beat me to a locality, but I was going to suggest Orinda or Tiburon.
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    Mar 08, 2014 4:53 PM GMT
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    Shark_cuterie said
    LJay saidThat we can discuss such things is certainly good.

    That we should feel that we need to is where I feel the shaky ground. Yes, there are Jewish athletes. There are also Californian athletes. So?

    Your Richmond is showing.


    well, you beat me to a locality, but I was going to suggest Orinda or Tiburon.

    Um, I meant Richmond Virginia, where he lives, not Richmond CA. icon_biggrin.gif