"In God We Trust", on paper money, is 50 years old this month

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    Mar 08, 2014 7:33 AM GMT
    Interesting transcript on how our paper money and coins got this phrase, religious zealots have been combining church and state for a long time, controlling aspects of our lives through name calling, Heathens who went against the church
    It was written to (republican) Secretary Chase by Rev. M. R. Watkinson, Minister of the Gospel from Ridleyville, Pennsylvania

    Heathen:
    a person who does not belong to a widely held religion (esp. one who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim) as regarded by those who do.
    synonyms: pagan, infidel, idolater, heretic, unbeliever, disbeliever, nonbeliever, atheist, agnostic, skeptic;



    http://www.treasury.gov/about/education/Pages/in-god-we-trust.aspx


    Republican president Dwight D. Eisenhower declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States


    Below is a listing by denomination of the first production and delivery dates for currency bearing IN GOD WE TRUST:

    DENOMINATION PRODUCTION DELIVERY
    $1 Federal Reserve Note February 12, 1964 March 11, 1964
    $5 United States Note January 23, 1964 March 2, 1964

    $5 Federal Reserve Note July 31, 1964 September 16, 1964
    $10 Federal Reserve Note February 24, 1964 April 24, 1964
    $20 Federal Reserve Note October 7, 1964 October 7, 1964
    $50 Federal Reserve Note August 24, 1966 September 28, 1966
    $100 Federal Reserve Note August 18, 1966 September 27, 1966
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    Mar 08, 2014 8:32 AM GMT
    hmmmmmm..........

    Religious Minister, from Pennsylvania requests "God" on money to a Republican Secretary of Treasury, Chase bank, years later, a Republican president from Pennsylvania, a five-star general in the United States Army during World War II,
    declares "God" the US motto, so where were the liberals (um heathens) in this decision?

    oh, I see, they were oppressed icon_mad.gif


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    God $$$$ Guns (republicans, what they fear the most)

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    Mar 08, 2014 9:01 AM GMT
    Hmmmm, well then, Eisenhower was a dumb ass, he declares God as the US motto, pleases the right wing nut jobs and then says he is going to fight with the right in his own party? Maybe Ike was a bit confused as to what 'conservatism' meant in the eyes of the right? He is the one who made the right wingers in his party happy and then wants them to be 'progressive'? icon_confused.gif


    Rand Paul and the Eisenhower Dream
    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2014/03/rand-paul-and-the-eisenhower-dream.html


    the Party “must be known as a progressive organization or it is sunk. I believe this so emphatically that I think that far from appeasing or reasoning with the dyed-in-the-wool reactionary fringe, we should completely ignore it and when necessary, repudiate it.” He went even further when he spoke to a small group in the White House, saying, “If the right wing wants a fight, they’re going to get it. If they want to leave the Republican Party and form a third party, that’s their business, but before I end up, either this Republican Party will reflect progressivism or I won’t be with them anymore.”
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    Mar 08, 2014 10:25 PM GMT
    Isn't this around the same time that the words "under God" were arbitrarily inserted into the Pledge of Allegianceicon_question.gif
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    Mar 08, 2014 10:30 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidIsn't this around the same time that the words "under God" were arbitrarily inserted into the Pledge of Allegianceicon_question.gif


    No, just at CPAC.
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    Mar 08, 2014 11:29 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidIsn't this around the same time that the words "under God" were arbitrarily inserted into the Pledge of Allegianceicon_question.gif

    That's my understanding as well. I was surprised to learn about both of these (the money one is the other one) having assumed all my life that they'd always been there.

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    Mar 09, 2014 11:31 AM GMT
    Similarly, the monarch's portrait only started to appear on Bank of England banknotes in 1960. Many people assume it has been happening for hundreds of years. New 'traditions' get old pretty quickly.
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    Mar 09, 2014 8:59 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidIsn't this around the same time that the words "under God" were arbitrarily inserted into the Pledge of Allegianceicon_question.gif


    hmmmm, another minister and another republican president, Lincoln, again, where were the liberals (um heathens), christian socialist? sounds like a oxymoron...icon_rolleyes.gif

    spiritual weapons? republican evils icon_twisted.gif


    The Pledge of Allegiance was written in August 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855–1931), who was a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist

    Louis A. Bowman, an attorney from Illinois, was the first to initiate the addition of "under God" to the Pledge. The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution gave him an Award of Merit as the originator of this idea.[13][14] He spent his adult life in the Chicago area and was Chaplain of the Illinois Society of the Sons of the American Revolution. At a meeting on February 12, 1948,[13] Lincoln's Birthday, he led the Society in swearing the Pledge with two words added, "under God." He stated that the words came from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address. Though not all manuscript versions of the Gettysburg Address contain the words "under God", all the reporters' transcripts of the speech as delivered do, as perhaps Lincoln may have deviated from his prepared text and inserted the phrase when he said "that the nation shall, under God, have a new birth of freedom." Bowman repeated his revised version of the Pledge at other meetings.


    At the suggestion of a correspondent, Representative Louis C. Rabaut of Michigan sponsored a resolution to add the words "under God" to the Pledge in 1953

    President Eisenhower had been baptized a Presbyterian very recently, just a year before. He responded enthusiastically to Docherty in a conversation following the service. Eisenhower acted on his suggestion the next day and on February 8, 1954, Rep. Charles Oakman (R-Mich.), introduced a bill to that effect. Congress passed the necessary legislation and Eisenhower signed the bill into law on Flag Day, June 14, 1954.[17] Eisenhower stated "From this day forward, the millions of our school children will daily proclaim in every city and town, every village and rural school house, the dedication of our nation and our people to the Almighty.... In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America's heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country's most powerful resource, in peace or in war
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    Mar 09, 2014 9:10 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal said
    roadbikeRob saidIsn't this around the same time that the words "under God" were arbitrarily inserted into the Pledge of Allegianceicon_question.gif

    That's my understanding as well. I was surprised to learn about both of these (the money one is the other one) having assumed all my life that they'd always been there.




    Well, at least we now have a starting point for the rise of the right, mid 1950's republicans and their war hero Eisenhower, an era republicans want to go back to so badly icon_twisted.gif
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Columbus, In California's 2008 election the Knights of Columbus attracted media attention when they donated more than $1.4 million to Proposition 8


    the Liberals response to Eisenhower, "1313" cellblock number is a significant clue icon_razz.gif

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    Mar 09, 2014 9:35 PM GMT
    It's important to remember that in the middle of the 20th century communism was very big on everyone's minds and a lot of people were rightfully very afraid of it. (Obviously, especially those with lots of money and property.) Russia pulled out of WW I when the communists came to power. Luckily for Europe the US entered the war.

    When Germany was defeated in WW II we were suddenly and instantly in another petrifying situation with the Soviet Union, who openly stated that a world communist revolution was their goal. As Churchill said, an iron curtain had descended across Eastern Europe where they installed totalitarian communist governments at the end of WW II.

    All of my youth was spent in fear of the world being wiped out in a nuclear armageddon.

    So, to me, some (but not all) of what they did back then is understandable.
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    Mar 09, 2014 9:53 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidIt's important to remember that in the middle of the 20th century communism was very big on everyone's minds and a lot of people were rightfully very afraid of it. (Obviously, especially those with lots of money and property.) Russia pulled out of WW I when the communists came to power. Luckily for Europe the US entered the war.

    When Germany was defeated in WW II we were suddenly and instantly in another petrifying situation with the Soviet Union, who openly stated that a world communist revolution was their goal. As Churchill said, an iron curtain had descended across Eastern Europe where they installed totalitarian communist governments at the end of WW II.

    All of my youth was spent in fear of the world being wiped out in a nuclear armageddon.

    So, to me, some (but not all) of what they did back then is understandable.



    'God' on US money and in the US pledge was used in fear of a nuclear holocaust and communism?, well then, republicans learned early on that using fear as a weapon, as so stated by Eisenhower as a means to control was very effective and catholics were only to willing to help
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    Mar 09, 2014 10:05 PM GMT
    scruffLA said'God' on US money and in the US pledge was used in fear of a nuclear holocaust and communism?

    Yes. It was just one small part of the overall environment of fear.
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    Mar 09, 2014 10:19 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal said
    scruffLA said'God' on US money and in the US pledge was used in fear of a nuclear holocaust and communism?

    Yes. It was just one small part of the overall environment of fear.


    It would appear "terrorism" was created to replace them for the same controlled fear purposes then, therefore, we still must keep 'God' relevant in the eyes of the fear creators, makes sense to me icon_rolleyes.gif