Study: Gay and Bisexual Teen Boys Use Steroids at a Rate 6 Times Higher Than Straight Peers

  • wowIggy

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    Mar 10, 2014 5:03 PM GMT

    "A new study reveals that gay and bisexual teens are using steroids at a rate six times higher than their straight peers, the AP reports:

    SteroidselfieReasons for the differences are unclear. The study authors said it’s possible gay and bi boys feel more pressure to achieve a bulked-up “ideal” male physique, or that they think muscle-building steroids will help them fend off bullies.

    Overall, 21 percent of gay or bisexual boys said they had ever used steroids, versus 4 percent of straight boys. The difference was similar among those who reported moderate use — taking steroid pills or injections up to 40 times: 8 percent of gay or bi teens reported that amount, versus less than 2 percent of straight boys. The heaviest use — 40 or more times — was reported by 4 percent of gays or bi boys, compared with less than 1 percent of straight teens.

    The study was released in the journal Pediatrics and is culled from government surveys between 2005 and 2007 involving 17, 250 teen boys with an average age of 16, 635 of whom were gay or bi. Although the data was collected six years ago, experts believe the results remain consistent in today's youth:

    Dr. Rob Garofalo, adolescent medicine chief at Lurie Children’s Hospital in Chicago, said the differences aren’t surprising, since it is known that gay youth often have “body image issues.” But he said, “It is still shocking. These are dramatically high rates.”


    KINDA AGREED WITH THIS COMMENT INSTEAD;

    "Lol, the article actually gave it a nobler reason than the reality, which is simply that the gay community(men in general) have always been shallow. Get a group of them together and what you get is a bunch of people placing the ideal physique above most things and when that ideal physique is the six pack, of course people will be pressured to achieve that leading to this.

    I really, really doubt they're bulking up to fight bullies, maybe in some instances, but those are most like minor."


    REMEMBER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE MASSIVE TO BE STUNNING.

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    Mar 10, 2014 5:23 PM GMT
    Already discussed on this thread: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3668672/

    which provided the study link: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4716035/

    both of which provided no surprising insight or commentary.
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    Mar 10, 2014 5:47 PM GMT
    A "huffpost" link is a blog by someone who may or may not understand what they are talking about. It's not a "study link."
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    Mar 10, 2014 6:36 PM GMT
    They dont do it because of "straight bullies", they do it to attract other gay and bi men. The reason why its more gay and bi guys doing this then straights is because it takes more to please a Gay man visually than with women. Women will settle for almost anything, gay men have the highest standards of expectation of beauty for their mates, even higher than straight men have for women. Thats why.
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    Mar 10, 2014 6:45 PM GMT
    paz_daddy said
    Kataka saidThey dont do it because of "straight bullies", they do it to attract other gay and bi men. The reason why its more gay and bi buys doing this then straights is because it takes more to please a Gay man visually than with women. Women will settle for almost anything, gay men have the highest standards of expectation of beauty for their mates, even higher than straight men have for women. Thats why.


    so fucking true. icon_lol.gif folks be having standards that they themselves can't reach and they're dead serious about it too. at least with women, they'll like you based on who you are NOT just off of how you look. one reason why i could give a fuck less about all this dumb shit that i constantly see other gay men on. it's not worth the stress or worry. being single and not dealing with the bullshit is a gift like anybody who is trying to strive for better or good things wants that type of bullshit. these kids simply need to learn how to accept themselves and let folks who accept them for who they are come into their lives and learn how to do the same shit to other people as well. no need to bend your back over for these flunkies that will only be present in your life as long as you look good to them.


    Gay people love to jump on the bandwagon of blaming all their problems on straight people, when sometimes all they need to do is look in the mirror to find the problem.
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    Mar 10, 2014 7:37 PM GMT
    I was watching a programme about the Australian customs at Sydney airport yesterday (it was more interesting than studying), and there was a guy who was smuggling in about 150 steroid pills. The interesting part, which backs up what people here have been saying, is that there was nothing impressive about his physique at all really. As far as those statistics go, they seem about right when you compare a Grindr grid with the guys at the gym (who by definition do work out).
  • Destinharbor

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    Mar 11, 2014 3:33 PM GMT
    I wonder how harmful it really is. I certainly don't endorse it, especially for kids, but I know I've come to disbelieve most media about the effects of steroids simply because I'm surrounded in the gym by obvious users and they all seem fine. Now maybe they all die early but really, I do believe it is a bandwagon of group-think about the evils of steroids. Part of the "WAR ON DRUGS" silliness (and money flow) that has ruined more lives than it has saved. Again, not endorsing it, just thinking out loud.
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    Mar 11, 2014 8:17 PM GMT
    The funny parts are:

    1. Likely most of those kids are being sold vegetable oil, because they are YOUNG and dumb.
    2. It's not as dangerous as some acne meds, drinking, smoking, pot, or eating junk food (which all kids do).

    The not so funny parts are:
    1. Misinformation.
    2. They are YOUNG and dumb.
    3. Because of "The War on Drugs", there is no truthful, informed, discussion and stories like the above are about reader counts and have nothing to do with real risks.

    I know young men who have been on the real stuff from the age of 15. In both cases, with their parents blessings, and one is in his mid 20's now, and one is in his late 20's. They have amazing development, and are in great shape.

    We have a number of social taboos, like fat people, etc.

    Reality is being over weight, and inactive, is the single biggest health risk, and accounts for the most health problems. It's not drugs.. IT'S THE FUCKING FOOD. That's reality.

    But,...in this country...of punitive lashing out...we put black men in jail for years for having a roach, control pot (which I don't smoke but is stupid).

    Better to have an open, informed, truthful discussion than this nonsense.

    Reality is, though, these BOYS, and they are boys...are YOUNG and DUMB, and need honesty, rather than scare tactics.

    The vast majority of the kids claiming the juice...aren't. I assure you, because .... I've been in gyms for 39 years. They're just YOUNG AND DUMB.

    With young gay boys, what I've seen much more often is anorexia. I spoke with a kid recently who would take days off from eating so he could have abs. YOUNG AND DUMB.

    It's in the nature of being gay, to want to be hot. Being in shape also feels good, prevents disease, and extends life.

    Bear is a fancy way of describing a fat ass, which is far more dangerous than being in shape.

    Standards are a good thing, but, lots of want to make excuses for being mediocre.

    The Addonis Complex isn't just a gay thing, either. It's a metrosexual thing groomed by marketers, and, for the most part it is a very good thing to be in shape.

    What is MORE dangerous is supplements that kick your metabolism into the stratosphere. Also, not eating is a bad thing.

    Bottom line, gay folks, and bi folks, need to be more open and kind. Being gay doesn't entitle you to a lack of manners. It also doesn't mean you have to accept everyone just because they're gay, but..... social decorum is something lacking in the YOUNG and DUMB...because they've isolated themselves in an electronic world, and never learned to stand up and say "My name is Chuck Gudgel. I work in IT. I live in The Colony, TX. I'm a gay guy, but, I won't hold it against you if you aren't."

    Too many gay folks (closet cases / religious nuts) are just head fucked... PERIOD. Add to that YOUNG AND DUMB and...

    Anyway, Logan's dad called me one day, and thanked me profusely for being that gay guy rock that Logan had for many years. I said, "You're welcome, Captain Dave."
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    Mar 12, 2014 3:50 PM GMT
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    Bear is a fancy way of describing a fat ass, which is far more dangerous than being in shape.

    Standards are a good thing, but, lots of want to make excuses for being mediocre.

    The Addonis Complex isn't just a gay thing, either. It's a metrosexual thing groomed by marketers, and, for the most part it is a very good thing to be in shape.

    What is MORE dangerous is supplements that kick your metabolism into the stratosphere. Also, not eating is a bad thing.

    Bottom line, gay folks, and bi folks, need to be more open and kind. Being gay doesn't entitle you to a lack of manners. It also doesn't mean you have to accept everyone just because they're gay, but..... social decorum is something lacking in the YOUNG and DUMB...because they've isolated themselves in an electronic world, and never learned to stand up and say "My name is Chuck Gudgel. I work in IT. I live in The Colony, TX. I'm a gay guy, but, I won't hold it against you if you aren't."

    Too many gay folks (closet cases / religious nuts) are just head fucked... PERIOD. Add to that YOUNG AND DUMB and...

    Anyway, Logan's dad called me one day, and thanked me profusely for being that gay guy rock that Logan had for many years. I said, "You're welcome, Captain Dave."
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    Mar 12, 2014 3:51 PM GMT
    chuckystud said
    Bear is a fancy way of describing a fat ass, which is far more dangerous than being in shape.

    Standards are a good thing, but, lots of want to make excuses for being mediocre.



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    Mar 23, 2014 12:23 AM GMT
    I'll sound naive, but where in the world do teens get steroids... It's not exactly like they sell this stuff on street corners (I assume).
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    Mar 23, 2014 12:28 AM GMT
    Destinharbor saidI wonder how harmful it really is. I certainly don't endorse it, especially for kids, but I know I've come to disbelieve most media about the effects of steroids simply because I'm surrounded in the gym by obvious users and they all seem fine. Now maybe they all die early but really, I do believe it is a bandwagon of group-think about the evils of steroids. Part of the "WAR ON DRUGS" silliness (and money flow) that has ruined more lives than it has saved. Again, not endorsing it, just thinking out loud.


    I actually agree with you on the medias take on drugs.
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    Mar 23, 2014 3:26 AM GMT
    Extremely easy to get
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    Mar 23, 2014 5:22 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidThe funny parts are:

    1. Likely most of those kids are being sold vegetable oil, because they are YOUNG and dumb.
    2. It's not as dangerous as some acne meds, drinking, smoking, pot, or eating junk food (which all kids do).

    The not so funny parts are:
    1. Misinformation.
    2. They are YOUNG and dumb.
    3. Because of "The War on Drugs", there is no truthful, informed, discussion and stories like the above are about reader counts and have nothing to do with real risks.

    I know young men who have been on the real stuff from the age of 15. In both cases, with their parents blessings, and one is in his mid 20's now, and one is in his late 20's. They have amazing development, and are in great shape.

    We have a number of social taboos, like fat people, etc.

    Reality is being over weight, and inactive, is the single biggest health risk, and accounts for the most health problems. It's not drugs.. IT'S THE FUCKING FOOD. That's reality.

    But,...in this country...of punitive lashing out...we put black men in jail for years for having a roach, control pot (which I don't smoke but is stupid).

    Better to have an open, informed, truthful discussion than this nonsense.

    Reality is, though, these BOYS, and they are boys...are YOUNG and DUMB, and need honesty, rather than scare tactics.

    The vast majority of the kids claiming the juice...aren't. I assure you, because .... I've been in gyms for 39 years. They're just YOUNG AND DUMB.

    With young gay boys, what I've seen much more often is anorexia. I spoke with a kid recently who would take days off from eating so he could have abs. YOUNG AND DUMB.

    It's in the nature of being gay, to want to be hot. Being in shape also feels good, prevents disease, and extends life.

    Bear is a fancy way of describing a fat ass, which is far more dangerous than being in shape.

    Standards are a good thing, but, lots of want to make excuses for being mediocre.

    The Addonis Complex isn't just a gay thing, either. It's a metrosexual thing groomed by marketers, and, for the most part it is a very good thing to be in shape.

    What is MORE dangerous is supplements that kick your metabolism into the stratosphere. Also, not eating is a bad thing.

    Bottom line, gay folks, and bi folks, need to be more open and kind. Being gay doesn't entitle you to a lack of manners. It also doesn't mean you have to accept everyone just because they're gay, but..... social decorum is something lacking in the YOUNG and DUMB...because they've isolated themselves in an electronic world, and never learned to stand up and say "My name is Chuck Gudgel. I work in IT. I live in The Colony, TX. I'm a gay guy, but, I won't hold it against you if you aren't."

    Too many gay folks (closet cases / religious nuts) are just head fucked... PERIOD. Add to that YOUNG AND DUMB and...

    Anyway, Logan's dad called me one day, and thanked me profusely for being that gay guy rock that Logan had for many years. I said, "You're welcome, Captain Dave."


    There is absolutely no correlation between having a six pac, well defined pecs, and peaked biceps and health or longevity. You're confusing aesthetics with health. If the study said these kids were working out more, you could maybe claim some benefit along those lines, but the study says they're using steroids more. And unless you have been checking out the testicle size of the guys in the gym you figure are on the juice, you don't have any evidence either way. Indeed, since most negative effects don't show up for decades--just like cigarettes by the way--your anecdotal evidence from your buds in the gym doesn't amount to evidence at all. Exercising is good, but there is zero evidence that steroids are good for your health and plenty of evidence that for a significant percentage of users, they're very bad. (Again, just like cigarettes; after all, lots of people smoke who never get cancer--that doesn't make cigarettes safe.) I am also not convinced that they're so "young and dumb" that they're not getting the real thing in most cases. How many teens are so "young and dumb" that they'll smoke oatweed and think it's grass, for instance? The greater likelihood is that the stuff they are taking is contaminated, but not that it's a harmless placebo. I find this to be a very disturbing finding in many ways.
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    Mar 24, 2014 2:03 PM GMT
    They also do meth at higher rates. Especially in and around Laramie, Wyoming.



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    Mar 26, 2014 6:59 AM GMT
    AnOriginal saidI'll sound naive, but where in the world do teens get steroids... It's not exactly like they sell this stuff on street corners (I assume).


    I have to agree, it's a good question. One of my friends ex boyfriends who wanted to take them said that the gym contains some guys who you can buy steroids/juice from (heck, even synthol). If they are legit? Who knows but that's just one guess. So if high school athletes go to a local gym where tons of different people go, they may be able to find someone who sells and we all know that the seller only cares about getting money so he/she wouldn't care if they were selling to a teenager.

    Steroids always seem to be a touchy subject. I personally think it's down to the individual. I used to be strictly against them but I don't want to be judgmental so I just go with the live and let live. At the end of the day, the individual does whatever he feels. But I can't help but feel bad for those who use it to try to be accepted.

    I also wonder if the media exaggerates things when it comes to the war on drugs. I mean, I know they do but I wonder to what extent.
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    Mar 26, 2014 6:19 PM GMT
    Gay people have a very bad habit of eternalizing the causes of many of the issues young gay men faced. I think this has less to do with bullies and more to do with a very homogenized controlled view of what's attractive.
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    Mar 26, 2014 7:28 PM GMT
    Maybe, but since I've internalized the stereotype, I asked my doctor for Androgel. It's done wonders for my workout!
  • johninmiami

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    Mar 28, 2014 10:41 PM GMT
    I loved reading this.The replies if taken as a whole reveal insight ,expected life-like contradictions that are all too real.The truth is all of us feel what is unfair ,worrisome,neurotic about society .none of us are that stupid.Some of us opt out ,become loners,depressed,become bitter and jaded while others do the work.Very few of us are actually able to ignore it and replace it with solid well-being.I used to love to work out and was denigrating others in my head for not "trying"to be beautiful.If you couldn't be beautiful in your 20's life wasn't worth living.Now in my 40's I know I have paid for my attitudes.I had friends I could truly have learned from but discarded.What are we willing to give up .How hard are we willing to work to not be " mediocre" or seen as that as one post said.In my 40's now I choose not to work out because I'm lazy and foolishly hope my earning potential will land me the muscled man I want.Will I ever grow up!
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    Mar 29, 2014 5:29 AM GMT
    DEKIRUMAN saidGay people have a very bad habit of eternalizing the causes of many of the issues young gay men faced. I think this has less to do with bullies and more to do with a very homogenized controlled view of what's attractive.


    I hear that. I don't like fatties.