Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: How Can an Airliner Just Disappear?

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    Mar 11, 2014 9:29 PM GMT
    Incredible in this day and age...

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/aviation/crashes/malaysia-airline-flight-370-how-can-an-airliner-just-disappear-16578965?click=pm_latest
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    Mar 11, 2014 10:14 PM GMT
    may be they did a U-turn

    http://americablog.com/2014/03/missing-malaysian-airplane-appears-done-u-turn-disappearing.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Americablog+%28AMERICAblog+News+%29
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    Mar 11, 2014 10:22 PM GMT
    Maybe it's in The Twilight Zone...
  • ChicagoSteve

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    Mar 12, 2014 12:42 AM GMT
    In 2003 a former American Airlines 727 took off from an airport in Angola and was never seen again.

    http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/the-727-that-vanished-2371187/?no-ist

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    Mar 12, 2014 2:52 AM GMT
    i heard that also… however the transponder show have activated…even if it went under the ocean… Do you think the whole '2 fake passports' may have had something to do with it? While tragic, its most intriguing.. planes that large don't just disappear..
  • arinano

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    Mar 12, 2014 4:17 AM GMT
    hairyandym saidi heard that also… however the transponder show have activated…even if it went under the ocean… Do you think the whole '2 fake passports' may have had something to do with it? While tragic, its most intriguing.. planes that large don't just disappear..


    One of the passengers with a fake passport is a 19 year old Iranian boy who is an asylum seeker on his way to his mother in Germany.

    The whole story is tragic and while I'm hoping for the best, expecting the worst for these people. I considered the possibility of a hijack but hijacked planes just...don't disappear. This is quite a chilling case. Call me crazy but I haven't ruled out the possibility of extra-terrestrial and portals to other dimensions. I'm not joking.

    Just hoping these people are safe. icon_sad.gif
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    Mar 12, 2014 4:24 AM GMT
    arinano said
    hairyandym saidi heard that also… however the transponder show have activated…even if it went under the ocean… Do you think the whole '2 fake passports' may have had something to do with it? While tragic, its most intriguing.. planes that large don't just disappear..


    One of the passengers with a fake passport is a 19 year old Iranian boy who is an asylum seeker on his way to his mother in Germany.

    The whole story is tragic and while I'm hoping for the best, expecting the worst for these people. I considered the possibility of a hijack but hijacked planes just...don't disappear. This is quite a chilling case. Call me crazy but I haven't ruled out the possibility of extra-terrestrial and portals to other dimensions. I'm not joking.

    Just hoping these people are safe. icon_sad.gif


    "Call me crazy but I haven't ruled out the possibility of extra-terrestrial"

    I've wondered that out loud too.
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    Mar 12, 2014 1:21 PM GMT
    Blakes7 saidMaybe it's in The Twilight Zone...


    or something like the Bermuda Triangle
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    Mar 12, 2014 1:40 PM GMT
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  • Kazachok

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    Mar 12, 2014 1:48 PM GMT
    Oh, it can. There is no continuous tracking of commercial jets. And it turned west. Thst airplane could be anywhere. It could have landed safely at one of the islands with an airstrip, like the Paracels, or even made it as far as Diego Garcia.
  • arinano

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    Mar 12, 2014 1:55 PM GMT
    The whole disappearance is mysterious and eerie but I feel like there's many things just not...piecing together.

    I'm definitely confident that the Malaysian government is definitely hiding something from public knowledge and I can empathise on the frustrations of distressed relatives.
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    Mar 12, 2014 2:24 PM GMT
    Kazachok saidOh, it can. There is no continuous tracking of commercial jets. And it turned west. Thst airplane could be anywhere. It could have landed safely at one of the islands with an airstrip, like the Paracels, or even made it as far as Diego Garcia.


    The how does something like flight aware work?
  • thadjock

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    Mar 12, 2014 3:27 PM GMT
    why aren't commercial flights continuously tracked through a satellite based gps system, that woulnd't be subject to the limited coverage of land based radar? the plane gets it's own position through GPS why isn't that a 2 way communication?

    is it cost or just not deemed necessary because of so few accidents of this nature. Everything else including tagged wildlife are tracked with satellites, why not planes? Isn't land based radar like using a ww2 era technology when we have better?

    I thought i heard reported that some 777's are continuously streaming operational statistics through a satellite downlink to boeing? for support or technical study for them to monitor the perfomance of the airplane.

    the prospect of it crashing in the ocean and we can't find it isn't a big surprise to me, but learning that there are thousands of flights every day that we don't know where they are at some point in the flight is a little strange with all the technology we have now.
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    Mar 12, 2014 9:51 PM GMT
    http://www.boston.com/news/source/2014/03/report_china_satellite_images_may_show_malaysia_flight_crash.html
    Report: Chinese satellite images may show Malaysia flight crash site

    A Chinese satellite attempting to locate Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 "observed a suspected crash area at sea," according to CNN. The news comes via a Chinese government agency.

    The satellite images show the Straight of Malacca and were taken on Mar. 9, the day after the the plane's disappearance, but were not released until today, according to CNN.

    A Chinese scientist explained to the South China Morning Post the ways in which China did not fully take advantage of its satellite capabilities.

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    Hampered by poor co-ordination and a meagre staff, China did not immediately exploit the capability of its satellites to search for the missing Malaysian airliner, according to a Chinese scientist.

    When the Boeing 777 was en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing last Saturday, no Chinese satellites were observing it, said Dr Chi Tianhe, a researcher in satellite imaging with the Chinese Academy of Sciences who took part in the search.

    "Chinese satellites' real-time surveillance capability will likely be strengthened after this incident," said Chi, a professor with the academy's Institute of Remote Sensing and Digital Earth in Beijing.

    Chi said his biggest regret was that while China had enough satellites to monitor a large area around the clock, including the search zone, the job had not been done. Monitoring every bit of land and sea would require a dedicated staff, he added.
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    Mar 12, 2014 10:19 PM GMT
    Seems they have found it…
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    Mar 12, 2014 10:41 PM GMT
    Draper said

    Hampered by poor co-ordination and a meagre staff, China did not immediately exploit the capability of its satellites

    Monitoring every bit of land and sea would require a dedicated staff, he added.


    how is it possible that anything in china is understaffed, there's 1.3 billion people over there. are they all busy making iphones?
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    Mar 12, 2014 11:02 PM GMT
    ^^^
    yep and cheap shitty clothes, furniture…etc
  • thadjock

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    Mar 13, 2014 12:22 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Rest assured - the people flying the plane you are on know exactly where they are - and that's the most important thing! icon_razz.gif


    oh i have no doubt that the terrorist flying my plane knows exactly where he is, but that's not very reassuring.

    I'd like to know that somebody else is aware of wtf is going on with the plane too.

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    Mar 13, 2014 1:47 AM GMT
    Draper said
    Blakes7 saidMaybe it's in The Twilight Zone...


    or something like the Bermuda Triangle


    Or worse....The Langoliers! icon_surprised.gif
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    Mar 13, 2014 10:15 PM GMT
    thadjock said
    Draper said

    Hampered by poor co-ordination and a meagre staff, China did not immediately exploit the capability of its satellites

    Monitoring every bit of land and sea would require a dedicated staff, he added.


    how is it possible that anything in china is understaffed, there's 1.3 billion people over there. are they all busy making iphones?


    I got to that sentence and I was icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 14, 2014 12:15 AM GMT
    Sometimes I just don't understand why Google World or satellites can't show pictures of certain events to get the truth... I understand clouds or weather could interfere with images. It's really sad, I'm going to assume the plane is in the ocean -- if nobody manipulated anything?
  • gymlocker

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    Mar 14, 2014 1:36 AM GMT
    Here's my theory

    The flight leaves malaysia with a disgruntled pilot or co pilot on board
    He's trying to embarass the airline and also possibly collect on an insurance policy for his relatives-to pay gambling debts or cover for substance abuse or a disciplinary procedure --not uncommon in Asia
    This crew were known offenders of airline policy

    As the plane reaches the last known point/ he kills the copilot/ destroys the transponder/ slowly decompresses the airplane which will eventually cause everyone to pass out and would explain no texts or cell calls

    He turns the plane west knowing that four hours of fuel will put him down somewhere in the Indian Ocean where eventually some debris will be found but the plane will be difficult if not impossible to recover and the airline will have no incentive to as anything implicating the crew will only result in more lawsuits

    Eventually the black boxes may be recovered but they will only show what we know above they will not explain why he did it/ The airline will cover up the fact that he was being disciplined for behaviors that include bur are not limited to allowing pretty foreign girls into the cockpit on flights from Puhket Thailand to Koala Lumpur (among other things)

    In eastern cultures bringing shame onto ones family or reputation is worse than death and the opportunity to reward one's family with insurance money from the airline and punish the airline in return was just too good to pass up/ The airline and malaysian officials already look like idiots and the malaysian military is embarassed to admit an unidentified plane breached their airspace without much detection or response on their part is the reason why information is so slow to come out

    Check the bottom of the Indian Ocean/ You will find the plane there
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    Mar 14, 2014 2:11 AM GMT
    gymlocker saidHere's my theory

    The flight leaves malaysia with a disgruntled pilot or co pilot on board
    He's trying to embarass the airline and also possibly collect on an insurance policy for his relatives-to pay gambling debts or cover for substance abuse or a disciplinary procedure --not uncommon in Asia
    This crew were known offenders of airline policy

    As the plane reaches the last known point/ he kills the copilot/ destroys the transponder/ slowly decompresses the airplane which will eventually cause everyone to pass out and would explain no texts or cell calls

    He turns the plane west knowing that four hours of fuel will put him down somewhere in the Indian Ocean where eventually some debris will be found but the plane will be difficult if not impossible to recover and the airline will have no incentive to as anything implicating the crew will only result in more lawsuits

    Eventually the black boxes may be recovered but they will only show what we know above they will not explain why he did it/ The airline will cover up the fact that he was being disciplined for behaviors that include bur are not limited to allowing pretty foreign girls into the cockpit on flights from Puhket Thailand to Koala Lumpur (among other things)

    In eastern cultures bringing shame onto ones family or reputation is worse than death and the opportunity to reward one's family with insurance money from the airline and punish the airline in return was just too good to pass up/ The airline and malaysian officials already look like idiots and the malaysian military is embarassed to admit an unidentified plane breached their airspace without much detection or response on their part is the reason why information is so slow to come out

    Check the bottom of the Indian Ocean/ You will find the plane there


    If this is truly the case, I hope the pilot burns in hell for taking innocent lives with him. If karma exists that money would be tainted with evil.
  • gymlocker

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    Mar 14, 2014 2:39 AM GMT
    In fact this same thing happened on a previous flight near Indonesia but it was ruled accidental as the 747 decompressed on it's own without tampering/ since then alarms were to have been installed

    In cases of slow decompression of an airliner the crew and passengers pass out not knowing that anything is wrong/ the plane flies on autopilot until it crashes/ but the decompression must be slow enough not to drop oxygen masks or alarm other crew or passengers

    Since the previous incident- procedures have been taken to prevent this but they can be overridden by the pilot or copilot in the cabin if they wanted to sabotage the flight

    1)The transponder must be turned off manually

    2)The cabin compression sirens must be turned off manually

    3)The cabin must be decompressed slowly so as not to alert the passengers or other crew that anything is amiss

    4)If this had been the result of a hijacking or cabin breach the other passengers would have texted or used cell phones to say their last goodbyes and alerted people on the ground--therefore the actions had to be taken by a member of the cabin crew with or without the assistance of the other crew members

    5)The malaysian military is also to blame/ had they scrambled a jet to investigate the breach to their airspace they would have intercepted the jet but would probably have not been able to do anything at that point to stop it/ they would have been able to confirm that the plane was on autopilot without any crew or passengers being alert
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    Mar 16, 2014 3:21 PM GMT
    Malaysia Airline MH370: 9/11-style terror allegations resurface in case of lost plane
    Possible plot investigated after Al-Qaeda supergrass told court that four or five Malaysian men planned a passenger airliner hijack
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10700652/Malaysia-Airline-MH370-911-style-terror-allegations-resurface-in-case-of-lost-plane.html