Indiana bakery, 111 Cakery, latest to tell same-sex couples: ‘No cake for you’

  • metta

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    Mar 14, 2014 5:18 PM GMT
    Indiana bakery latest to tell same-sex couples: ‘No cake for you’

    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/03/ind-bakery-latest-to-tell-same-sex-couples-no-cake-for-you/
  • metta

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    Mar 14, 2014 5:18 PM GMT
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/111-Cakery/186522244746286
  • tazzari

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    Mar 14, 2014 7:30 PM GMT
    Let the cake wars continue. Reactionaries and right-wing christianists will say that it's about freedom, not hate, and much of the discussion will center on the cake and wedding photos - as if that was what it's really about, rather than the sort of genocide they really want.

    I completely support the exemption of religious organizations - let them put it all out there where people can see their bigotry - but photography and baking are NOT religious activities. If you're in the public square, you serve the public. It's that simple.

    Maybe the solution would be for homophobic businesses to post "We prefer not to serve gays, Blacks, Jews, etc. because of our deeply-held religious convictions" - and then let the free market do the rest.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 14, 2014 8:17 PM GMT
    It would have been fun to grab a cake and throw it in his face.. the S.O.B. but I'm sure assault charges would ensue.

    Society has shifted to the point that most view people like this as bigots... as it should be.

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    Mar 14, 2014 8:43 PM GMT
    Bunch of bitch asses, the couple I mean. Why on earth do you want a person to bake a cake for something they disagree with?
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    Mar 14, 2014 8:47 PM GMT
    textilemaker saidBunch of bitch asses, the couple I mean. Why on earth do you want a person to bake a cake for something they disagree with?


    I doubt they'd ask any straight couple if they had children out of wedlock, or if they were meth-heads etc.

    The only reason they could discriminate religiously was because the couple couldn't hide it.
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    Mar 14, 2014 8:48 PM GMT
    This is happening far too often to be believable. I think some of these people are purposely going to bakeries who they know aren't interested in making them a cake. And what winds up happening is they get all kinds of free offers from other bakeries, photographers, and function halls. And they make the news!
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    Mar 14, 2014 8:48 PM GMT
    tazzari said
    Maybe the solution would be for homophobic businesses to post "We prefer not to serve gays, Blacks, Jews, etc. because of our deeply-held religious convictions" - and then let the free market do the rest.




    I agree with letting the free market take its course..........just like that homophobic little baker and his fundamentalist wife in that hick town in Oregon. They refused to bake a cake last year for a lesbian couple. The first thing they did was BRAG that lots of people began patronizing their bakery. Turned out to be false. The truth was that lots of people began AVOIDING their business and they went broke. I say - let the free market solve the problems of homophobic imbeciles. Even if a few fans patronize these businesses, the greater amount of normal, thinking people will avoid them and drive them to starvation.
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    Mar 14, 2014 8:58 PM GMT
    pellaz saidone of these happened in Colorado, the owner lost his court case and went out of business.

    i dont think i would buy a cake just to see what would happen. give the cake to the dog when you get home? They probably spit on it before handing it over to you.


    What about a restaurant an office function is being held at, and you can't go because you're gay?
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    Mar 14, 2014 9:05 PM GMT
    Doug and Bill, Your question ^^^^^ above is a very good one. Here's my answer, for what its worth.

    I'd be happy to know if there was a particular restaurant or business that didn't want me because of my sexuality, or any other reason. Fine with me. I'd encourage my office to hold the meeting somewhere else. There are tons of choices and we really don't have any problem choosing a different, better, business run by normal, enlightened proprietors! Let the marketplace sort it out. When word gets out that a business is run by angry homophobic people, or bigots, or religious fanatics, the public will eventually drive them out of business. We're seeing this actually happen. A great way of a sort of Prairie Style justice!
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    Mar 14, 2014 9:15 PM GMT
    Jock, that would certainly work in some instances, but in some it wouldn't. It's the patched quilt effect. I think it easier and more efficient to simply apply the laws already in place. (Remembers chick-fil-a and the surge of anti gay business)

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    Mar 14, 2014 9:23 PM GMT
    ^^^^^ It would work beautifully for me to know which business owners were homophobic, bigoted, religious fanatics, etc. I'd be happy to see them post signs in their windows. It would make it so easy to know where NOT to eat or do business. I'd not care a whit if some of those businesses flourished - like your example of Chic filet. I'd never, ever go there and I'd be just fine! There are so many other choices. It's not like we NEED to patronize businesses run by bad people. There are SO MANY other choices. If we only knew who was desiring our business - we could help them flourish and make them very successful! I really mean it about a sign or some way of knowing who to patronize and who to avoid.
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    Mar 14, 2014 9:36 PM GMT
    Jockbod48 said^^^^^ It would work beautifully for me to know which business owners were homophobic, bigoted, religious fanatics, etc. I'd be happy to see them post signs in their windows. It would make it so easy to know where NOT to eat or do business. I'd not care a whit if some of those businesses flourished - like your example of Chic filet. I'd never, ever go there and I'd be just fine! There are so many other choices. It's not like we NEED to patronize businesses run by bad people. There are SO MANY other choices. If we only knew who was desiring our business - we could help them flourish and make them very successful! I really mean it about a sign or some way of knowing who to patronize and who to avoid.


    I see your point, and it's a good one, although we've found here in Canada the other way works better.
    An example Bill and I were just now discussing is a corporation that books a hotel for a weekend conference. Selected personel from branches all over the country attend, except for a few that can't because...they're gay. In a flourish of corporate efficiency, others are assigned to take their place at the convention.
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    Mar 14, 2014 10:50 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    I see your point, and it's a good one, although we've found here in Canada the other way works better.

    An example Bill and I were just now discussing is a corporation that books a hotel for a weekend conference. Selected personel from branches all over the country attend, except for a few that can't because...they're gay. In a flourish of corporate efficiency, others are assigned to take their place at the convention.

    I don't understand. The gays can't attend? Why not? Who made that decision?
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    Mar 15, 2014 1:38 AM GMT
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    meninlove said
    I see your point, and it's a good one, although we've found here in Canada the other way works better.

    An example Bill and I were just now discussing is a corporation that books a hotel for a weekend conference. Selected personel from branches all over the country attend, except for a few that can't because...they're gay. In a flourish of corporate efficiency, others are assigned to take their place at the convention.

    I don't understand. The gays can't attend? Why not? Who made that decision?


    We're speaking with Jockbod about what can happen when business is allowed to discriminate on religious grounds. The above is an example of what can happen.
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    Mar 15, 2014 1:42 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    ART_DECO said
    meninlove said
    I see your point, and it's a good one, although we've found here in Canada the other way works better.

    An example Bill and I were just now discussing is a corporation that books a hotel for a weekend conference. Selected personel from branches all over the country attend, except for a few that can't because...they're gay. In a flourish of corporate efficiency, others are assigned to take their place at the convention.

    I don't understand. The gays can't attend? Why not? Who made that decision?


    We're speaking with Jockbod about what can happen when business is allowed to discriminate on religious grounds. The above is an example of what can happen.

    Oh, a HYPOTHETICAL example? Not clear, as it followed "...in Canada the other way works better".
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    Mar 15, 2014 2:46 AM GMT
    http://wakeforestlawreview.com/a-unique-religious-exemption-from-antidiscrimination-laws-in-the-case-of-gays-putting-the-call-for-exemptions-for-those-who-discriminate-against-married-or-marrying-gays-in-context
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    Mar 15, 2014 5:26 AM GMT
    That's... quite a URL icon_confused.gif
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    Mar 15, 2014 6:06 AM GMT

    that reminds me, I have been craving my favorite cake and frosting icon_razz.gif



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    Mar 15, 2014 12:54 PM GMT
    Just reposting this from February...

    http://www.everygoddamnday.com/2014/02/welcome-to-steinberg-bakery.html
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 15, 2014 2:23 PM GMT
    Well than all gay couples should just take their business and go elsewhere. It is this bakery's loss due to their ignorance and backwardness. Also gay and lesbian couples should team up with the moderate and progressive segments of the mainstream and publicly embarrass this one particular business and urge a boycott against it. This could hit that bakery where it hurts the worst, in their pocket book.
  • kuroshiro

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    Mar 16, 2014 4:31 AM GMT
    I STILL don't get why this shit is such a big deal! If it's a personal business then the person should be able to sell to who they want to. If they're stupid enough to turn away profit for something like that then so be it. It's just money in someone else's pocket in the end.
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    Mar 16, 2014 1:37 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidThat's... quite a URL icon_confused.gif


    I had to double check it, thinking I copy/pasted something wrong.

    But it does click to a thoroughly considered essay--practically a treatise--directly on topic.

  • Mar 17, 2014 10:45 PM GMT
    It confuses me how people publicly refuse to take money.

    Do you know how many stripper's cracks that cash you have has been in? Exactly. So why does it matter, small business? Just take the money
  • drfeelgood

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    Mar 19, 2014 9:53 AM GMT
    I don't understand why a pink cake would cause so much drama