Making Men Rapists

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    Mar 14, 2014 6:34 PM GMT
    All I can say to this article is A-fucking-MEN!

    "What? There is nothing fair, nothing equitable, about ruining a young man’s career and smearing him as a rapist on the basis of an allegation. And yet, this $63,282-a-year college is willing to discuss the “provocative” option of doing just that to male students — without issuing a refund, of course.

    Even on the brink of graduating, the accused can be expelled and refused the degree that he may need to obtain a license for the career for which he has trained. With a permanent stain on his record, other universities are not likely to admit him. Few employers are likely to hire him.

    Males should not be stripped of due-process rights, on campus or in courts. They must be presumed innocent until proven guilty; they must be allowed to face their accusers in the company of counsel. And the accusation of rape needs to be judged by a standard of “beyond a reasonable doubt.”

    No one should have to relinquish their constitutional rights in order to get an education."

    http://fff.org/explore-freedom/article/making-men-rapists/
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    Mar 14, 2014 8:36 PM GMT
    Oh yeah, men are so oppressed. Just like Christians are. (snicker)
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    Mar 14, 2014 8:46 PM GMT
    The point of this article is that the "affirmative consent" standard will incentivize false rape accusations even further than they already exist.

    If a woman regrets last night's sexual experience or it was bad sex, for instance, she can just cry rape. If a woman is vindictive and wants revenge, she can cry rape.

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    Mar 14, 2014 9:01 PM GMT
    libertpaulian saidThe point of this article is that the "affirmative consent" standard will incentivize false rape accusations even further than they already exist.

    If a woman regrets last night's sexual experience or it was bad sex, for instance, she can just cry rape. If a woman is vindictive and wants revenge, she can cry rape.


    Coming from someone else, this might be interesting. Coming from you, it appears to be more of your constant complaining about how evil women are.
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    Mar 14, 2014 9:09 PM GMT
    Of course, I notice you didn't dispute anything in the article...which happens to be written by a female.
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    Mar 14, 2014 10:56 PM GMT
    “Affirmative consent” is a freely and affirmatively communicated willingness to participate in particular sexual activity or behavior, expressed either by words or clear, unambiguous actions.

    Ihttp://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB967

    What is the issue? How does this incentivize rape accusations?

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    Mar 14, 2014 11:33 PM GMT
    creature said“Affirmative consent” is a freely and affirmatively communicated willingness to participate in particular sexual activity or behavior, expressed either by words or clear, unambiguous actions.

    Ihttp://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB967

    What is the issue? How does this incentivize rape accusations?


    Because in most situations, non-forcible rape is all a matter of he said/she said. If John and Jane are at a party, they are kinda tipsy, have been flirting with each other all evening (and many partiers notice the flirting), and they go upstairs, most are going to think they had sex. However, if Jane decides to cry rape the next morning, is she really telling the truth? What if Jane never really said no when she and John had sex, but she didn't give an explicit yes, either? What if there is buyer's remorse on her part?

    Then it becomes her word against his, or his word against hers.
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    Mar 14, 2014 11:38 PM GMT
    libertpaulian said
    creature said“Affirmative consent” is a freely and affirmatively communicated willingness to participate in particular sexual activity or behavior, expressed either by words or clear, unambiguous actions.

    Ihttp://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB967

    What is the issue? How does this incentivize rape accusations?


    Because in most situations, non-forcible rape is all a matter of he said/she said. If John and Jane are at a party, they are kinda tipsy, have been flirting with each other all evening (and many partiers notice the flirting), and they go upstairs, most are going to think they had sex. However, if Jane decides to cry rape the next morning, is she really telling the truth? What if Jane never really said no when she and John had sex, but she didn't give an explicit yes, either? What if there is buyer's remorse on her part?

    Then it becomes her word against his, or his word against hers.


    Then it sounds like your complaint should be directed at the judicial system, because under the law there cannot be a conviction if a reasonable doubt has been established.