Why is Racism the First Response When Trying to Insult Someone?

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    Mar 18, 2014 2:56 AM GMT
    Preface: This post was not for pity or sympathy from other users, but to put it simply: We should think before we speak. I'm not trying to lecture anyone, it's just sometimes we use language too loosely.

    I posted on a member's forum, a member that I've liked, and my post lacked clarification on my part. I'm 99% sure I posted it after 12:00 AM and sometimes I make errors while writing quickly, at night, or on my phone.

    Even with the lack of clarification did my post warrant a private message that started with racial remarks?

    It's not just this member, but most of my life the times I've been called a "chink" or a racist remark it was usually done under the persons breath -- so only I would hear it. I was walking in the mall one day, and this guy was walking past me with his girlfriend or girl that was a friend. He said a racial slur out loud, and his girlfriend hit him.

    So many people like to be politically correct in public, but behind closed doors or when given the opportunity they use hateful stereotypes to define a person. If my racist Uncle is given the opportunity. He will use his position as a manager, of a popular "orange" hardware store, to discriminate against black customers. When I was old enough to decide where I wanted to spend my Christmases and Holidays -- I stopped all contact with him. I don't understand why there is so much hate in the world? I'm not some hippie; I even understand war is necessary at times (I supported Bush at first icon_redface.gif), but why be hateful over silly issues?
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    Mar 18, 2014 2:59 AM GMT
    It's not just race. People like to focus on anything a person can't change about themselves: Race, age, height, weight, etc.
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    Mar 18, 2014 3:01 AM GMT
    Scruffypup saidIt's not just race. People like to focus on anything a person can't change about themselves: Race, age, height, weight, etc.


    ...sexuality.

    but I agree
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    Mar 18, 2014 3:02 AM GMT
    Scruffypup saidIt's not just race. People like to focus on anything a person can't change about themselves: Race, age, height, weight, etc.


    Well in this case it was RACE.

    The comment that caused this topic:

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    I should've said "[I know] a guy [on FB who] always..." I know it says 1:43 PM, but I want to say it was more like 1:43 AM. I'm on my iPhone with the dimness turned way down, when I can't fall asleep.


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    Originally there was a picture of the email with blocked names. I took it down after being informed it broke the rules. So here was the exchange. His name was blocked in the photo as well; it wasn't my intention for people to know his identity.

    Anonymous
    Dumbass at least i'm not from a race that breeds like rats and kills girl babies because they want a boy lol (1)

    My reply
    Where is this coming from?

    Anonymous
    I posted no such thing you stupid dumb fuck

    He linked to the post of the picture above -- I still have no idea how my comment caused him so much anger. I took it down.

    (1)Note: After reading someone else state and support this private message stating "Don't Asians do this though". I think you're referring to China -- just because we "look alike" doesn't mean we all grew up under the same laws, policies, and practices. Some may view it as sad, but I only possess general knowledge about Asia. I don't believe my origins believed in killing baby girls (I never had a reason to seek something of that disturbing nature out) and I DO NOT think EVERY Chinese person believes in this either. Way to stereotype. If you think that I'd ever kill a human, yet alone an innocent child -- you are a sad excuse for a human.
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    What my comment was actually about:

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    I want to note, I really like this FB friend. I don't know him too well, but we've went backpacking together in the Catskills and he shared his oatmeal with me. I really don't care where he got the box from. Maybe it was from take out -- I know take out places put food in boxes.
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    Mar 18, 2014 3:03 AM GMT
    AnOriginal saidI posted on a member's forum, a member that I've liked, and my post lacked clarification on my part. I'm 99% sure I posted it after 12:00 AM and sometimes I make errors while writing quickly, at night, or on my phone.

    Even with the lack of clarification did my post warrant a private message that started with racial remarks?

    It's not just this member, but most of my life the times I've been called a "chink" or a racist remark it was usually done under the persons breath -- so only I would hear it. I was walking in the mall one day, and this guy was walking past me with his girlfriend or girl that was a friend. He said a racial slur out loud, and his girlfriend hit him.

    So many people like to be politically correct in public, but behind closed doors or when given the opportunity they use hateful stereotypes to define a person. If my racist Uncle is given the opportunity. He will use his position as a manager, of a popular "orange" hardware store, to discriminate against black customers. When I was old enough to decide where I wanted to spend my Christmases and Holidays -- I stopped all contact with him. I don't understand why there is so much hate in the world? I'm not some hippie; I even understand war is necessary at times (I supported Bush at first icon_redface.gif), but why be hateful over silly issues?

    Asians are stereotypically passive. That's why people are more likely to insult an Asian in his face, than a black person.

    Next time someone calls you a chink, kick his ass. Negative reinforcement is the only way some people will learn.
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    Mar 18, 2014 3:08 AM GMT
    Nice screenshot. At least we know it's Somersault. icon_lol.gif

    Why are you taking him seriously? He's one of the many puppet/trolls on this site.
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    Mar 18, 2014 3:08 AM GMT
    Oh, Somersalt? Dude, that's one of the nastiest queens on here. Everything out of his mouth is vile. I would pay him no attention.
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    Mar 18, 2014 3:10 AM GMT
    AnOriginal, two things:

    1) Remove the image of the e-mail. Not allowed.

    2) Report him.
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    Mar 18, 2014 3:15 AM GMT
    After reading the topic on that other thread (I deleted my post that annoyed the RJ member). I even posted his link to my FB -- this was before I received his private message. I always enjoyed this members witty sense of humor, but after clarifying myself through private messages he didn't even offer an apology.

    As I said some people are just racists behind closed doors -- my own family doesn't get racism, but they're white. When I was in elementary my mother came on the bus. She told this older kid if he didn't stop harassing for being Asian, she'd drive to his parents house.

    I obviously love my family, more than anything in the world --they're the only individuals I would give a kidney to-- but they don't always understand what it's like to have situations where my entire identity is my ethnicity in some people's eyes (although it feels like a lot looking back). Not to mention I've lived in NY for 25 years of my life -- no I don't live in Upstate NY lol.

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    Mar 18, 2014 3:16 AM GMT
    creature saidAnOriginal, two things:

    1) Remove the image of the e-mail. Not allowed.

    2) Report him.


    The image of the email isn't allowed with their name blocked?
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    Mar 18, 2014 3:18 AM GMT
    AnOriginal said
    creature saidAnOriginal, two things:

    1) Remove the image of the e-mail. Not allowed.

    2) Report him.


    The image of the email isn't allowed with their name blocked?


    If you're going to report him, then I would play it safe and remove the image, even if the name is blocked out. I was able to tell who it was, and so was everyone else.

    This scenario has played itself out a couple times before.
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    Mar 18, 2014 3:20 AM GMT
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    AnOriginal said
    creature saidAnOriginal, two things:

    1) Remove the image of the e-mail. Not allowed.

    2) Report him.


    The image of the email isn't allowed with their name blocked?


    If you're going to report him, then I would play it safe and remove the image, even if the name is blocked out. I was able to tell who it was, and so was everyone else.

    This scenario has played itself out a couple times before.


    I removed the image.
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    Mar 18, 2014 3:24 AM GMT
    "Chink"? Even as a slur, I'm not sure I get it. No idea where your origins are, but aren't there like sixteen different countries that share your racial features?
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    Mar 18, 2014 3:25 AM GMT
    AnOriginal said
    creature said
    AnOriginal said
    creature saidAnOriginal, two things:

    1) Remove the image of the e-mail. Not allowed.

    2) Report him.


    The image of the email isn't allowed with their name blocked?


    If you're going to report him, then I would play it safe and remove the image, even if the name is blocked out. I was able to tell who it was, and so was everyone else.

    This scenario has played itself out a couple times before.


    I removed it.


    That's his schtick. But if you left the e-mail up, you could get in trouble, and I didn't want that to happen. Plus, it's also in bad form to post private exchanges, even if the other person was rude and offensive.
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    Mar 18, 2014 3:26 AM GMT
    Sharkadelic said"Chink"? Even as a slur, I'm not sure I get it. No idea where your origins are, but aren't there like sixteen different countries that share your racial features?


    I used "Chink" loosely. And it's not the word, it's the way it's said. The people that say it use the word as if it's the "N-Word" it's said with hate.

    It's the same with the word Jew. It's just a word, but there's a way someone can say they are just "a Jew". Where it demonstrates absolute disgust in a degrading way.

    Anyone that has read Harry Potter gets the idea of what a Mudblood is... Words can hurt.
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    Mar 18, 2014 3:52 AM GMT
    He deleted his post, but what I said holds true.

    woodsmen saidA friend asked me: Do you know what a fat Asian is called? Answer: a "Chunk"!


    That's different Woodsmen and you're very friendly with everyone -- it's like I could give you a hug and you'd buy best friend forever bracelets the next day (being sarcastic).

    If you've actually ever encountered real racism you would know the vibe and energy -- it's pure hatred for something I can't change about myself. It's different to witness a car hitting a motorcycle on TV, than when you watch the car accident happen in front of your own eyes (in-person).
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    Mar 18, 2014 4:20 AM GMT
    Sometimes I think we're all oversensitive but there are definitive limits and some people just don't see that. Some very obvious offensive words are inexcusable and yet some people include them in their vocabulary which makes you wonder how they really feel.
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    Mar 18, 2014 4:20 AM GMT
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    AnOriginal said
    creature saidAnOriginal, two things:

    1) Remove the image of the e-mail. Not allowed.

    2) Report him.


    The image of the email isn't allowed with their name blocked?


    If you're going to report him, then I would play it safe and remove the image, even if the name is blocked out. I was able to tell who it was, and so was everyone else.

    This scenario has played itself out a couple times before.


    Thank you for your help. You guys are witty too. I honestly didn't think he would make racist remarks. He said the "race I come from", because he probably has read, one of the many times I've posted, I am proud to be raised in an Italian American family and I was brought up to believe in the Constitution and what it stands for. My Church going republican cousin was a teacher and at every family gathering she would quiz us and want to know what books we were reading. Anytime we went into her car there was an audiobook playing. She now oversees several public schools in the city.

    I don't know I was just taken aback. I read a bunch of posts where he doesn't like Obama -- I thought it was based on his policies, but maybe there's more to it. I was just hurt by it, nothing a workout at the gym can't fix. I've had a lot worst than some guy message me privately to take digs at my appearance/ethnicity. I know people may not understand this fact, but when you are adopted under a year old and raised in a white family you honestly don't view yourself any different than your family. If anyone wants to criticize me over being Asian it's based on my appearance. The only reason I know about Asian culture is because I'm curious about a lot of cultures from the black community, to the Jewish community, to various religions etc. I already know about the white community, since I was raised and grew up in it.
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    Mar 18, 2014 4:28 AM GMT
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    Mar 18, 2014 4:34 AM GMT
    eb925guy saidSometimes I think we're all oversensitive but there are definitive limits and some people just don't see that. Some very obvious offensive words are inexcusable and yet some people include them in their vocabulary which makes you wonder how they really feel.


    Everyone knows racism is frowned upon. That doesn't stop people from being racists behind closed doors or using subtle opportunities for their dislike in other races. As I said I disagree with my Uncle who is a racist -- his own children disagree with him growing up. His daughter (my cousin) would joke around that she'd marry a black guy just to piss him off (I hope she does find a nice black guy to marry!). His son (my cousin) has actually started making racist remarks -- it's odd I thought he was smarter. Then again he was a quarterback in HS and his mother (my aunt) wrote his essays and did his homework for him.
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    Mar 18, 2014 4:49 AM GMT
    eb925guy saidSometimes I think we're all oversensitive but there are definitive limits and some people just don't see that. Some very obvious offensive words are inexcusable and yet some people include them in their vocabulary which makes you wonder how they really feel.


    Thank you for understanding.
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    Mar 18, 2014 5:13 AM GMT
    He wanted to cause you some degree of pain, and by posting this thread you've shown him that he was successful.
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    Mar 18, 2014 6:03 AM GMT
    unfounded7 saidHe wanted to cause you some degree of pain, and by posting this thread you've shown him that he was successful.


    I understand what you mean, but I've always liked him as member and I've said it on other forums -- so yes the message with curses and racial remarks caused some hurt feelings. It brought back memories of feeling ugly and unworthy, simply because my eyes/appearance is different. Much older and bigger kids gave me hell for being Asian, starting in elementary school. Almost everyone was white in my school. So the few black students and I stood out. I thought when I became an adult things would be different. College was different -- thank God.

    I was hoping to bring the issue of Asian racism (why aren't we beyond this hatred: WHY?) to light and get clarity to my original question.

    Racism does bother me and I know it shouldn't. It's like, I always did well in school and college (several awards receievd and an article in the local paper). I participated in extracurricular activities. I maintain a very healthy lifestyle. My first job in HS was to get a gym membership, my mother wanted me to just focus on school and my parents would've paid for it, but I wanted my own money. I am a friendly person most of the time, but it seems like I'll never be enough based on something I can't control. It does hurt.

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    Mar 18, 2014 11:44 AM GMT
    Scruffypup saidIt's not just race. People like to focus on anything a person can't change about themselves: Race, age, height, weight, etc.


    That doesn't seem to quite apply to everyone icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 18, 2014 11:46 AM GMT
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    AnOriginal saidI posted on a member's forum, a member that I've liked, and my post lacked clarification on my part. I'm 99% sure I posted it after 12:00 AM and sometimes I make errors while writing quickly, at night, or on my phone.

    Even with the lack of clarification did my post warrant a private message that started with racial remarks?

    It's not just this member, but most of my life the times I've been called a "chink" or a racist remark it was usually done under the persons breath -- so only I would hear it. I was walking in the mall one day, and this guy was walking past me with his girlfriend or girl that was a friend. He said a racial slur out loud, and his girlfriend hit him.

    So many people like to be politically correct in public, but behind closed doors or when given the opportunity they use hateful stereotypes to define a person. If my racist Uncle is given the opportunity. He will use his position as a manager, of a popular "orange" hardware store, to discriminate against black customers. When I was old enough to decide where I wanted to spend my Christmases and Holidays -- I stopped all contact with him. I don't understand why there is so much hate in the world? I'm not some hippie; I even understand war is necessary at times (I supported Bush at first icon_redface.gif), but why be hateful over silly issues?

    Asians are stereotypically passive. That's why people are more likely to insult an Asian in his face, than a black person.

    Next time someone calls you a chink, kick his ass. Negative reinforcement is the only way some people will learn.


    Quite true with bullies!