Any bikers in Real Jock?

  • zakariahzol

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    Dec 27, 2008 9:43 AM GMT
    Are they any of you guys into big bike, muscle motorcycle , harley davidson kinda of things. I am having a hard time fitting in with bikers club in my country due to the fact they are for straight people only. Probably , I can exchange experience with those folk who are into this thing in Real Jock. I not talking about doing drugs, unshowered men, thugs looking for trouble, but regular salary guys like me who enjoy riding our bike. Nothing like putting on my leather harley's jacket , bikers t-shirt and hit the road.
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    Dec 27, 2008 1:34 PM GMT
    I've been a licensed US biker for 42 years, have owned Harleys and many other makes, most of them big cruisers and tourers. I'm a long-term member of the American Motorcyclist Association (AMA). I also ride a scooter for local errands here in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, hence my RJ screen name. Nothing gayer than a Vespa! LOL!

    I've ridden with several gay motorcycle clubs in the US: Border Riders from the Seattle, Washington and Vancouver, BC area, and the Stonewall Knights in South Florida. Plus sometimes gay friends & I take weekend rides together. My longest trips exceed 5000 miles, and I ride to the Sturgis rally, to Daytona and other events, so I have plenty of biker stories.

    I've unlocked my private photos for you, so you can see a few motorcycle pics of me, and my Harley jacket. I'll be glad to discuss bikes & riding with you.

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    Dec 29, 2008 5:12 AM GMT
    I like Harleys and choppers in general. But it doesn't fit my style, so I'm partial to sport bikes.

    I've had my license for a few years now, but sadly don't have a bike yet. I was hoping to get the new Ninja 250R, but I heard that thing is back-ordered for months.
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    Dec 29, 2008 5:14 AM GMT
    i have a ducati monster black... (: im selling her on ebay this week icon_sad.gif
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    Dec 30, 2008 1:55 PM GMT
    I have a 2006 Harely-Davidson Streetbob. My first bike was a 1997 1200 Harely-Davidson Sportster. I got my partner hooked on riding and he has an 883 Sportster. I am lucky to have a partner to ride with. Also got one of our friends hooked and he has a Sportster.

    In regards to finding others, I don't know how big of an area you live in but some guys in our area started a gay motorcyle group that is Yahoo Groups based. Guys send out info on rides and we all meet up. You could try that then others can find you online by searching.

    First time I went to local gay leather bar I saw a bunch of guys in chaps and vests. I thought, "Outstanding! A bunch of guys to ride with!" I quickly found out that 99% of them don't have bikes and are just into the leather scene. I have not problem with that. Just wish more gay guys rode bikes.
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    Dec 30, 2008 2:10 PM GMT
    streetbobfx saidFirst time I went to local gay leather bar I saw a bunch of guys in chaps and vests. I thought, "Outstanding! A bunch of guys to ride with!" I quickly found out that 99% of them don't have bikes and are just into the leather scene. I have not problem with that. Just wish more gay guys rode bikes.

    Know what you mean, but I take a less kindly view, calling them "posers." And most of the time their "biker" leathers are cheap imitations of the real thing, since true riding leathers are very thick and heavy. I think my Harley highway jacket must weigh about 10 pounds. Plus my leathers show the wear & tear of many thousands of miles in the wind, sun & rain, whereas the poser leathers look shiny new, right off the rack.

    On the other hand, when I do walk into a leather bar with my genuine leathers, my bike parked outside, the obvious difference with the posers gives me a big advantage. So I guess I really shouldn't complain, until they learn to get the "look" right and become some real competition.
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    Dec 30, 2008 2:33 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa said On the other hand, when I do walk into a leather bar with my genuine leathers, my bike parked outside, the obvious difference with the posers gives me a big advantage. So I guess I really shouldn't complain, until they learn to get the "look" right and become some real competition.


    I have found some info online when I was researching gay biker clubs. It appears the leather scene emerged from the early gay bikers. But, most of the leather "clubs" have shed the bikes...shame.
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    Dec 30, 2008 2:55 PM GMT
    I have a Triumph Speed Triple, a Ducati Monster S4, and a BMW K1200RS. They all fill different niches in my biking needs and I LOVE being out on them. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 30, 2008 3:01 PM GMT
    streetbobfx saidI have found some info online when I was researching gay biker clubs. It appears the leather scene emerged from the early gay bikers. But, most of the leather "clubs" have shed the bikes...shame.

    I never heard that, though I suppose it's not implausible. I've been a licensed biker and wearing leathers since 1966, but I wasn't out in the gay world then, so never knew about gay leather bars until the 1990s. When did this online info say these early gay bikers existed?

    I had "assumed" (always a risky thing) that gays borrowed the leather look from straight bikers, that goes back in the public's mind all the way to Marlon Brando in the 1953 movie The Wild One.

    On the other hand, when I rode with the late Malcolm Forbes in the mid-1970s (yes, THE Forbes of the magazine, stories for another time), he always had an entourage of younger biker boys around him in leathers, joining us from New York City as I recall, who didn't seem quite "right" to me. Little did I know that my nascent gaydar was already operational over 30 years ago.

    But again, whether gay bikers are the basis of the gay leather scene is something I hadn't heard before. I wouldn't have thought there were enough of us.
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    Dec 30, 2008 3:16 PM GMT
    svengali11 saidI have a Triumph Speed Triple, a Ducati Monster S4, and a BMW K1200RS. They all fill different niches in my biking needs and I LOVE being out on them. icon_biggrin.gif

    I wish I had kept every bike I ever owned, but I've always been a "serial" biker. Only own one at a time, usually for 1 to 2 years, never more than 3 before I get a new one.

    I've not had a Ducati, but have owned 2 other Italian makes, Benelli and MotoGuzzi, not counting the Vespa scooter. Triumph is one brand I really want to add to my list, and the Triple is a candidate.

    But I've had BMW, Harley, and most of my other bikes are from the 4 Japanese companies. I've had sport bikes, cruisers, dual-sport (but no true off-road) and tourers. Lately I've found sport tourers my favorite type for the riding I've been doing, and given that my body no longer bends so easily, nor tolerates too much pounding.
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    Dec 30, 2008 3:27 PM GMT
    jrunner25 saidi have a ducati monster black... (: im selling her on ebay this week icon_sad.gif


    I'm crying with you!
  • zakariahzol

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    Dec 30, 2008 3:51 PM GMT
    Guys,

    Leather is excellent for a colder climate, but if your are living in a tropical country like mine it really hot and humid and not comfortable at all. Leather are good only if your are riding in a cold morning or some cold night. Over here , real leather is so expensive and the one we have is usually a cheaper and thinner "fake leather". For those who have been to South East Asia will realize that there a big market selling imitation Harley Darvison stuff, such as belt, t-shirt, helmet, jacket, boot , bag and etc. This stuff look just like the real thing (I know it not ethical), and excellent substitute . We also have a lot of shop selling used material , (boot, jacket, belt and t-shirt) from US and Japan that are sold at Flea Market and used store. Once I find an excellent jacket , for just a few cent.

    I dont have a real Harley (just cant afford it), but I do have big muscle motor. And I just love to dress like a those Hell Angel riders. What is a point , to put on the Harley's
    image with the jacket, boot and belt but you dont have a bike to ride on. It just like wearing a cowboys attire with no horse to ride on.
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    Dec 30, 2008 4:04 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa said When did this online info say these early gay bikers existed?


    I wish I had kept the links to the old gay biker club info. I remember there being one in California and one in DC. I am sure that the gay leather scene is not entirely based upon the old gay biker clubs. There are of course leather fetishes etc.
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    Dec 30, 2008 4:14 PM GMT
    zakariahzol saidI dont have a real Harley (just cant afford it), but I do have big muscle motor. And I just love to dress like those Hell's Angel riders. What is a point, to put on the Harley's image with the jacket, boot and belt but you dont have a bike to ride on. It just like wearing a cowboys attire with no horse to ride on.

    At least you ride SOMETHING, compared to some US guys who ride nothing, but dress in biker leathers and strike poses in gay bars here. I know I'm being a snob, but I would not dress like a police officer or a fire fighter if I wasn't one. So I do resent a bit guys who dress like they ride motorcycles, when they do not.
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    Dec 30, 2008 4:33 PM GMT
    streetbobfx said
    Red_Vespa said When did this online info say these early gay bikers existed?


    I wish I had kept the links to the old gay biker club info. I remember there being one in California and one in DC. I am sure that the gay leather scene is not entirely based upon the old gay biker clubs. There are of course leather fetishes etc.

    I'll also go into straight biker bars, because it takes no effort for me to appear convincingly butch. Hell, I did it for 25 years in the US Army. I just need to remember to remove any gay pride pins I may have on my jacket, and on my bike. I'll take on most guys 1-on-1, but a whole bar jumping on me is a little much.

    And yet I like grungy straight biker bars for some inexplicable reason. I can overlook their sleezy biker bimbos and revel in some unique kind of trashy blue-collar experience. Odd, because I was raised quite differently, and still attend black-tie functions all the time, and regularly socialize with people the biker bums would never meet in their entire lives. At times it does make me wonder who my father really was... LMAO!
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    Dec 30, 2008 4:48 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa said And yet I like grungy straight biker bars for some inexplicable reason.


    Could not agree more. My partner and I frequently go to "real" biker bars and have never had an issue. I am tattooed and a bit rough around the edges. My partner on the other hand...not so tough in appearance. But we have never had any issues with the straight bikers. Its great people watching!
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:02 PM GMT
    I've been riding sportbikes as transportation for 21 years and counting (can you tell by my username?). I even have a bike pic or two in my profile.

    I'll agree with the poster who doesn't care for posers. I wear heavy leather (eg, Vanson) because I ride, not because I want to be some Walter Middy.
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:07 PM GMT
    Biker Types are always trouble! icon_lol.gif
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    Dec 30, 2008 8:47 PM GMT
    sportbiker said I wear heavy leather (eg, Vanson) because I ride, not because I want to be some Walter Middy.


    I ride Harleys and dress in the typical Harley fashion (leather jacket, jeans, and boots). But I will have to admit that there is nothing sexier than a guy on a sport bike in the full leather suit!icon_cool.gif
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    Dec 30, 2008 8:56 PM GMT
    sportbiker saidI've been riding sportbikes as transportation for 21 years and counting (can you tell by my username?). I even have a bike pic or two in my profile.

    I'll agree with the poster who doesn't care for posers. I wear heavy leather (eg, Vanson) because I ride, not because I want to be some Walter Middy.


    Who doesn't love Vanson leathers? They were already an industry standard when I started riding in the 1960s. Great stuff.
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    Dec 30, 2008 8:58 PM GMT
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    jrunner25 saidi have a ducati monster black... (: im selling her on ebay this week icon_sad.gif


    I'm crying with you!


    thanks... i hardly get to ride it and now i have to part with it
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    Dec 30, 2008 9:16 PM GMT
    Still riding my little 1980 Honda, although everyone around me seems to be getting all Harley.

    I'm reminded of a line from a Don Winslow novel, which I can't quite dredge up. Something to the effect that:

    "The cops were reluctant to become involved (in a blood feud between a biker gang and a gay bar) because then they would be faced with the dual problems of figuring out A) How to tell them apart, and B) Whom to root for."
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    Dec 31, 2008 2:20 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidStill riding my little 1980 Honda, although everyone around me seems to be getting all Harley.

    Literally a 1980 model? Which one? I've had 5 Hondas, good bikes, though some a bit vanilla. Kinda like the Ford or Chevy of bikes: totally reliable, but not always a lot of flash & sex.

    On the other hand, some of my bikes that had flash & sex, blew up between my legs (literally). On the whole, I'll take reliability. LOL!
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    Dec 31, 2008 3:08 AM GMT
    It's a CM400T. My first and so far, only. A little small, but it does the job.

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    Um... yeah, I'm gonna clean up the garage next weekend for sure...
  • zakariahzol

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    Dec 31, 2008 5:07 PM GMT
    This is great guys. Sure glad I am not the only gay with motorbike interest. You guys just make my day. Keep them coming.