Anyone seen this movie "Bigger Faster Stronger?"

  • vindog

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    Dec 27, 2008 6:51 PM GMT


    Very enlightening documentary on steroid use. Highly recommended.
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    Dec 27, 2008 7:10 PM GMT
    no I think I heard of it
  • vindog

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    Dec 27, 2008 7:31 PM GMT
    hghgear saidIf everyone is doing it. Is it still cheating? icon_lol.gif



    If you work hard and play by the rules, you can accomplish anything.
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    Dec 27, 2008 7:43 PM GMT
    I saw it at a documentary film festival last spring. I also thought it was really good. I think the filmaker did a good job of presenting both sides of the issue.
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    Dec 27, 2008 8:00 PM GMT
    edgey saidI saw it at a documentary film festival last spring. I also thought it was really good. I think the filmaker did a good job of presenting both sides of the issue.


    The one part that was crazy was the guy leading the crusade against steroids as he blamed them on his son's suicide, ignoring the fact that the anti-depressants his son was on also can cause suicidal tendencies. When the filmmaker brought up that there has been barely any scientific research on the effects of them, he got pissy and said "My son is dead. I don't care what the scientists or research says. My son's death is all the proof I need."


    Reminded me of the video someone put up here awhile ago regarding science and beliefs.


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    Dec 27, 2008 9:36 PM GMT
    I agree! An excellent example of how beliefs are sometimes used to fill an emotional need, and aren't related to logic or reason or science at all.
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    Dec 27, 2008 11:14 PM GMT
    Its a good movie. While I agree the director tried to show both sides of the issue, he obviously is in favor of steroids.

    I remember that they discredited Lyle Alzado's claims that steroids gave him cancer and pretty much showed that steroids played little, if any, role in that teenager's suicide, they did not talk much about the Chris Benoit murder/suicide and the widely held belief that it was brought on by roid rage.

    The two things that still stick with me are the doctor saying it would be unethical to do any long-term studies on steroids (um, okay, then don't say they are bad for you) and the director's comparison of steroid use to LASIK surgery.
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    Dec 27, 2008 11:48 PM GMT
    madtown saidI remember that they discredited Lyle Alzado's claims that steroids gave him cancer and pretty much showed that steroids played little, if any, role in that teenager's suicide, they did not talk much about the Chris Benoit murder/suicide and the widely held belief that it was brought on by roid rage.

    A quick Google search on Chris Benoit will bring up results such as...

    Pro wrestler Chris Benoit suffered brain damage from his years in the ring that could help explain why he killed his wife, son and himself, a doctor who studied Benoit's brain said..
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295794,00.html

    Tests were conducted on Benoit's brain by Julian Bailes, the head of neurosurgery at West Virginia University, and results showed that "Benoit's brain was so severely damaged it resembled the brain of an 85-year-old Alzheimer's patient."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Benoit

    The damage is proof, Bailes said, that Benoit suffered multiple, probably chronic, concussions over the course of many years.
    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3560015&page=2

    Go figure LOL!

    All the guys at the gym who're clearly sauced up are some of the mildest-mannered, even-tempered softies you'll ever meet. However, the guys, juiced and natural, who're into wrestling, boxing, or similar pro fighting are usually a bit off-kilter and not "all there". This can be attributed to drug abuse, but I'd be willing to hazard a guess that it's largely due to having your brain jostled around one-too-many times.

    The belief that steroids cause rage and anger is a misconception as steroids are shown to "increase aggression" not in terms of emotion, but in terms of physical strength and desire or willingness to participate in intense physical activity like weight lifting and intense cardio (who'd a thunk?)

    I'm inclined to believe the kid who killed himself was probably pretty-well drugged up on enough antidepressants and other psychiatric medications that I would think it's clear his death was directly related more to bad parenting and predisposition for such behavior rather than elevated man hormones. Not to mention it didn't look like he was hitting the 'roids hard enough to make a difference anyway.

    Hell, it's gotta be good for something if they prescribe it to people with advanced HIV/AIDS, cancer patients, and depressed, aging men who all see fantastic results in terms of improved mood, weight gain, and overall health and well being.
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    Dec 28, 2008 12:45 AM GMT
    I LOVED it!!! I got it on my ipod so I can watch it at work!! Unfortunately Mike "Mad Dog" Bell passed away just the other day like they said he might do...really sad....

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    Mar 29, 2010 10:03 PM GMT
    i actually just watched it right now and searched to see if anyone posted on it, its kind of interesting, but the one concern of mine is maybe its sending a message that its ok to do steroids, cuz thats how i feel right now
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    Mar 29, 2010 10:09 PM GMT
    one of my favorite movies...really makes you think...
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    Mar 29, 2010 10:28 PM GMT
    hells yeah ima go juice myself up
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    Mar 29, 2010 11:34 PM GMT
    vindog said

    If you work hard and play by the rules, you can accomplish anything.


    Hate to break it, but this is just not true. Unfortunately. icon_cry.gif