Religious fundamentalism could soon be treated as mental illness

  • metta

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    Apr 01, 2014 5:51 AM GMT
    Religious fundamentalism could soon be treated as mental illness

    Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/351347
  • PolitiMAC

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    Apr 01, 2014 6:01 AM GMT
    So because she thinks that certain behaviour has a certain degree of harmfulness, that person is insane?

    Please. This is her setting a standard based on what she thinks personally.

    Religious fundamentalism is not a mental illness, nor shall it ever be. Rightfully so; when people start assigning insanity to personal beliefs, we're entering the realm of totalitarian control and thought crime.
  • Apparition

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    Apr 01, 2014 6:21 AM GMT
    PolitiMAC saidSo because she thinks that certain behaviour has a certain degree of harmfulness, that person is insane?

    Please. This is her setting a standard based on what she thinks personally.

    Religious fundamentalism is not a mental illness, nor shall it ever be. Rightfully so; when people start assigning insanity to personal beliefs, we're entering the realm of totalitarian control and thought crime.


    um...by definition it kinda is...

    hears imaginary voices
    talks to people who dont exist
    believes in talking snakes, magical sky food, walking on water, etc etc
    repetitive nonsensical actions/automatic rote murmuring


    etc etc by any definition it would be classified as such for any cause with less real estate.

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    Apr 01, 2014 7:29 AM GMT
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    Isn't it a no brainer? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 01, 2014 9:27 AM GMT
    @metta8, thanks for sharing this link!
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    It's only about 2000 years too late, but about time.
  • PolitiMAC

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    Apr 01, 2014 12:50 PM GMT
    Apparition said
    PolitiMAC saidSo because she thinks that certain behaviour has a certain degree of harmfulness, that person is insane?

    Please. This is her setting a standard based on what she thinks personally.

    Religious fundamentalism is not a mental illness, nor shall it ever be. Rightfully so; when people start assigning insanity to personal beliefs, we're entering the realm of totalitarian control and thought crime.


    um...by definition it kinda is...

    hears imaginary voices
    talks to people who dont exist
    believes in talking snakes, magical sky food, walking on water, etc etc
    repetitive nonsensical actions/automatic rote murmuring


    etc etc by any definition it would be classified as such for any cause with less real estate.



    Then your definition is wrong. Sure, religion can be criticised. A lot. But it isn't a mental illness, no matter how stalwart and unchanging their position is on it. Are you going to call the majority of the human population insane?

    Because most humans have a religious faith.
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    Apr 01, 2014 6:51 PM GMT
    yes, but is there a cure? icon_lol.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 01, 2014 7:10 PM GMT
    PolitiMAC saidSo because she thinks that certain behaviour has a certain degree of harmfulness, that person is insane?

    Please. This is her setting a standard based on what she thinks personally.

    Religious fundamentalism is not a mental illness, nor shall it ever be. Rightfully so; when people start assigning insanity to personal beliefs, we're entering the realm of totalitarian control and thought crime.
    I am sorry but I disagree with you on this one. Religious fundamentalism is a mental illness because these followers justify any vengeful and violent acts towards others as a directive from almighty God. The FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS have been forcing their belief systems on society at large which has caused deep polarization between groups of people. They are so sure that they are right and the rest of modern society is wrong and heading for eternal damnation. A good example is the recently deceased Rev. Fred Phelps of Topeka, Kansas. He and many of his family are so convinced that America is a horrible country that they loudly protested and publicly stated their hatred towards gay men, military soldiers and the US in general. Those are not normally sane folks we are dealing with in that radical group.
  • PolitiMAC

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    Apr 01, 2014 9:57 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    PolitiMAC saidSo because she thinks that certain behaviour has a certain degree of harmfulness, that person is insane?

    Please. This is her setting a standard based on what she thinks personally.

    Religious fundamentalism is not a mental illness, nor shall it ever be. Rightfully so; when people start assigning insanity to personal beliefs, we're entering the realm of totalitarian control and thought crime.
    I am sorry but I disagree with you on this one. Religious fundamentalism is a mental illness because these followers justify any vengeful and violent acts towards others as a directive from almighty God. The FLAKY FUNDAMENTALISTS have been forcing their belief systems on society at large which has caused deep polarization between groups of people. They are so sure that they are right and the rest of modern society is wrong and heading for eternal damnation. A good example is the recently deceased Rev. Fred Phelps of Topeka, Kansas. He and many of his family are so convinced that America is a horrible country that they loudly protested and publicly stated their hatred towards gay men, military soldiers and the US in general. Those are not normally sane folks we are dealing with in that radical group.


    They're ignorant, stupid and stubborn. That is not insanity.
  • PolitiMAC

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    Apr 01, 2014 9:59 PM GMT
    immunity said
    PolitiMAC saidAre you going to call the majority of the human population insane?
    Yes. How is that difficult to believe?
    There has been research done on liberal-minded people vs. conservative-minded people and they actually found that it is mainly an innate trait. It's unfortunate because once these conservative-minded people are taught such utter nonsense they will defend it to the death, no matter how many proven facts you place in front of them, and attempting to change their mind by providing them with facts actually causes them to reinforce their own beliefs in their mind.
    That being said, other mental illnesses such as depression have physical biological causes, and are thus also an innate trait. I wonder, if conservative-mindedness is a mental illness as this woman theorizes, if there could be a cure for the conservative mind.
    The only reason it wouldn't be followed through by most people is because there is such a widespread belief that it's normal to be so terribly backwards-thinking.


    It just shows your superiority complex and arrogance if you think Conservatism is a pathological mental illness. I don't think Socialism is a mental illness, so why do you think that the former is?

    Because you're an intolerant authoritarian fool.
  • Apparition

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    Apr 03, 2014 3:54 AM GMT
    People with psychosis may have one or more of the following: hallucinations, delusions, catatonia, or a thought disorder, as described below. Impairments in social cognition also occur.[3][4]
    Hallucinations

    A hallucination is defined as sensory perception in the absence of external stimuli. Hallucinations are different from illusions, or perceptual distortions, which are the misperception of external stimuli.[5] Hallucinations may occur in any of the five senses and take on almost any form, which may include simple sensations (such as lights, colors, tastes, and smells) to experiences such as seeing and interacting with fully formed animals and people, hearing voices, and having complex tactile sensation,
    Delusions

    Psychosis may involve delusional beliefs, some of which are paranoid in nature. Put simply, delusions are false beliefs that a person holds on to, without adequate evidence. It may be difficult to change the belief even with evidence to the contrary. Common themes of delusions are persecutory (person believes that others are out to harm him/her), grandiose (person believing that he or she has special powers or skills) etc. Depressed persons may have delusions consistent with their low mood e.g., delusions that they have sinned, or have contracted serious illness etc. Karl Jaspers has classified psychotic delusions into primary and secondary types. Primary delusions are defined as arising suddenly and not being comprehensible in terms of normal mental processes, whereas secondary delusions may be understood as being influenced by the person's background or current situation (e.g., ethnicity; religious, superstitious, or political beliefs).[6]

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    so guess what, they define religious beliefs as psychosis already. If religion didnt own as much real estate, there would be no secondary psychosis, just primary pschosis. Relgion IS insanity. by definition.