Vladimir Putin ‘wants to regain Finland’ for Russia, adviser says

  • metta

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    Apr 01, 2014 3:25 PM GMT
    Vladimir Putin ‘wants to regain Finland’ for Russia, adviser says

    "After annexing Crimea and with troops massed on the border of Ukraine, Vladimir Putin will not stop trying to expand Russia until he has “conquered” Belarus, the Baltic states and Finland, one of his closest former advisers has said.

    According to Andrej Illarionov, the President’s chief economic adviser from 2000 to 2005, Mr Putin seeks to create “historical justice” with a return to the days of the last Tsar, Nicholas II, and the Soviet Union under Stalin."



    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-wants-to-regain-finland-for-russia-adviser-says-9224273.html
  • metta

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    Apr 01, 2014 3:27 PM GMT
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  • tj85016

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    Apr 01, 2014 4:35 PM GMT
    that's ok, it'll give Kerry something to do haha
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 01, 2014 6:52 PM GMT
    If Vladimir Putin is this mentally unstable where he wants to claim all the neighboring nation-states for Russia, this could be the very beginning of World War Three. This is a very disturbing scenario.
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    Apr 01, 2014 7:13 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidIf Vladimir Putin is this mentally unstable where he wants to claim all the neighboring nation-states for Russia, this could be the very beginning of World War Three. This is a very disturbing scenario.


    And of course 'we' think it's a prudent time to unilaterally disarm and 'build' the smallest standing arm forces since before WW II.

    Anyone who wonders why on earth I vote Republican, here it is.
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    Apr 01, 2014 7:35 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    roadbikeRob saidIf Vladimir Putin is this mentally unstable where he wants to claim all the neighboring nation-states for Russia, this could be the very beginning of World War Three. This is a very disturbing scenario.


    And of course 'we' think it's a prudent time to unilaterally disarm and 'build' the smallest standing arm forces since before WW II.

    Anyone who wonders why on earth I vote Republican, here it is.
    It is time to incinerate the Russian capital city of Moscow once and for all.
  • tj85016

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    Apr 01, 2014 7:49 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    roadbikeRob saidIf Vladimir Putin is this mentally unstable where he wants to claim all the neighboring nation-states for Russia, this could be the very beginning of World War Three. This is a very disturbing scenario.


    And of course 'we' think it's a prudent time to unilaterally disarm and 'build' the smallest standing arm forces since before WW II.

    Anyone who wonders why on earth I vote Republican, here it is.


    oh please, Cameron and Merkel would give up Finland in a heartbeat for Russian natural gas, and the French and Italians are too clueless to even care
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    Apr 01, 2014 8:14 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    freedomisntfree said
    roadbikeRob saidIf Vladimir Putin is this mentally unstable where he wants to claim all the neighboring nation-states for Russia, this could be the very beginning of World War Three. This is a very disturbing scenario.


    And of course 'we' think it's a prudent time to unilaterally disarm and 'build' the smallest standing arm forces since before WW II.

    Anyone who wonders why on earth I vote Republican, here it is.


    oh please, Cameron and Merkel would give up Finland in a heartbeat for Russian natural gas, and the French and Italians are too clueless to even care


    At least you say please.

    Yeah, all sounds about like the prelude to WW II.
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    Apr 01, 2014 8:23 PM GMT
    ^^

    yeah and the US is probably stupid enough to get involved
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    Apr 01, 2014 9:06 PM GMT
    tj85016 said^^

    yeah and the US is probably stupid enough to get involved


    And your suggestion if a NATO member is attacked?
  • tj85016

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    Apr 01, 2014 11:27 PM GMT
    ^^

    stay the hell out and let the French and Italians deal with it
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    Apr 01, 2014 11:57 PM GMT
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    stay the hell out and let the French and Italians deal with it


    Very true ... that's always worked well.
  • coolarmydude

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    Apr 02, 2014 12:08 AM GMT
    metta8 saidVladimir Putin ‘wants to regain Finland’ for Russia, adviser says

    "After annexing Crimea and with troops massed on the border of Ukraine, Vladimir Putin will not stop trying to expand Russia until he has “conquered” Belarus, the Baltic states and Finland, one of his closest former advisers has said.

    According to Andrej Illarionov, the President’s chief economic adviser from 2000 to 2005, Mr Putin seeks to create “historical justice” with a return to the days of the last Tsar, Nicholas II, and the Soviet Union under Stalin."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-wants-to-regain-finland-for-russia-adviser-says-9224273.html

    I'm not so sure about this. There is a distinct difference between Crimea and Finland, where Crimea is comprised of mostly ethnic Russians who wanted to be annexed by Russia. Finland identifies itself as mostly Finnish and aren't seeking to join Russia.

    http://www.indexmundi.com/finland/demographics_profile.html
    Finnish (official) 91.2%, Swedish (official) 5.5%, other (small Sami- and Russian-speaking minorities) 3.3% (2007)
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    Apr 02, 2014 2:31 AM GMT
    Is this a bad April Fool's joke?