Childless Should Pay More Taxes?

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    Apr 01, 2014 3:55 PM GMT
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/03/tax_credits_and_children_parents_should_pay_lower_taxes_and_childless_people.html




    Nah. Fuck that shit. It's not my fault other people choose to spawn, why should I have to work harder and pay more to compensate for that? Isn't this discrimination? And if it is OK, why do parents and future parents such dicks towards childfree people? Childless people already pay higher taxes.
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    Apr 01, 2014 4:04 PM GMT
    What's sad is that childfree people get ridiculed and questioned and yet they have to pay higher taxes in order for children to have a better start in life. Breeders are such bigots. icon_mad.gif
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    Apr 01, 2014 4:05 PM GMT
    Xavier92 saidWhat's sad is that childfree people get ridiculed and questioned and yet they have to pay higher taxes in order for children to have a better start in life. Breeders are such bigots. icon_mad.gif

    Honestly, stop it. I don't know anyone who shames people for not wanting children. On the contrary, if someone knows he shouldn't have any he'd almost certainly make a terrible parent and I'd rather he stay childless.
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    Xavier92 saidWhat's sad is that childfree people get ridiculed and questioned and yet they have to pay higher taxes in order for children to have a better start in life. Breeders are such bigots. icon_mad.gif

    Honestly, stop it. I don't know anyone who shames people for not wanting children. On the contrary, if someone knows he shouldn't have any he'd almost certainly make a terrible parent and I'd rather he stay childless.



    Pfffft you're daft. Just read the idiotic comments from the other childfree thread.
  • tj85016

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    Apr 01, 2014 5:09 PM GMT
    the income tax deduction for dependents is complete bullshit too - after 2 kids, you should be taxed at a higher rate
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    Apr 01, 2014 5:36 PM GMT
    It's top quality clickbait
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    Apr 01, 2014 5:51 PM GMT
    immunity said
    bonapart01 saidChildless should pay more tax, definitely
    It is a contribution to society
    but who makes up society?
    People.
    and where do people come from?
    babies.
    and where do babies come from?
    NOT THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT KIDS.


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    Apr 01, 2014 6:00 PM GMT
    Our tax dollars should be used for more abortions.
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    Apr 01, 2014 6:22 PM GMT
    bonapart01 said
    immunity said
    bonapart01 saidmuslims make 3 times more children at least than western world, you have a choice, do everything you can to live as gay person, or to live in islamic country where you would probably be hung
    you can make a choice not to have children, but worlds population will not decline because of that it will simply be overtaken by others
    You aren't making any sense now. icon_rolleyes.gif



    well I live in Europe, where native population is declining and immigration is on the highest high, Europe is becoming islamised, what it means is after few decades it is possible that there will be no Europe as you know it and it is simply because people are not making children

    as a society I believe people need to support those who make children, in Europe it is crucial


    I agree to a certain extent. It is a problem that 50% of school children are of Asian heritage because that doesn't include other ethnic groups. It's estimated that only 36% of children in our schools are from the indigenous population but for all intents and purposes we can't change it now and we can't be seen to favour the indigenous population over the rest of the population.
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    Apr 01, 2014 6:23 PM GMT
    I had a couple of children recently. They were a little overdone, though the spinach-and-walnut side dish was delicious.
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    Apr 01, 2014 6:25 PM GMT
    bonapart01 said
    immunity said
    bonapart01 saidmuslims make 3 times more children at least than western world, you have a choice, do everything you can to live as gay person, or to live in islamic country where you would probably be hung
    you can make a choice not to have children, but worlds population will not decline because of that it will simply be overtaken by others
    You aren't making any sense now. icon_rolleyes.gif



    well I live in Europe, where native population is declining and immigration is on the highest high, Europe is becoming islamised, what it means is after few decades it is possible that there will be no Europe as you know it and it is simply because people are not making children

    as a society I believe people need to support those who make children, in Europe it is crucial


    Nope, if you want kids, it's your fucking problem. Not mine. If being a parent is so awesome and it's seen as an act of heroism why don't parents take care of their own children? Fuck that shit. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 01, 2014 6:31 PM GMT
    Xavier92 said
    bonapart01 said
    immunity said
    bonapart01 saidmuslims make 3 times more children at least than western world, you have a choice, do everything you can to live as gay person, or to live in islamic country where you would probably be hung
    you can make a choice not to have children, but worlds population will not decline because of that it will simply be overtaken by others
    You aren't making any sense now. icon_rolleyes.gif



    well I live in Europe, where native population is declining and immigration is on the highest high, Europe is becoming islamised, what it means is after few decades it is possible that there will be no Europe as you know it and it is simply because people are not making children

    as a society I believe people need to support those who make children, in Europe it is crucial


    Nope, if you want kids, it's your fucking problem. Not mine. If being a parent is so awesome and it's seen as an act of heroism why don't parents take care of their own children? Fuck that shit. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Parents do take care of their children for the most part.
    I can't speak for your parents, but judging by your stupidity I'd reckon they did a pretty shitty job with you.

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    Apr 01, 2014 6:32 PM GMT
    Import said
    Xavier92 said
    bonapart01 said
    immunity said
    bonapart01 saidmuslims make 3 times more children at least than western world, you have a choice, do everything you can to live as gay person, or to live in islamic country where you would probably be hung
    you can make a choice not to have children, but worlds population will not decline because of that it will simply be overtaken by others
    You aren't making any sense now. icon_rolleyes.gif



    well I live in Europe, where native population is declining and immigration is on the highest high, Europe is becoming islamised, what it means is after few decades it is possible that there will be no Europe as you know it and it is simply because people are not making children

    as a society I believe people need to support those who make children, in Europe it is crucial


    Nope, if you want kids, it's your fucking problem. Not mine. If being a parent is so awesome and it's seen as an act of heroism why don't parents take care of their own children? Fuck that shit. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Parents do take care of their children for the most part.
    I can't speak for your parents, but judging by your stupidity I'd reckon they did a pretty shitty job with you.




    Yeah, and they need childless people to pay more taxes. Fucking breeders. Also, you look like a toddler with a beard.
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    Apr 01, 2014 6:40 PM GMT
    Xavier92 said
    Import said
    Xavier92 said
    bonapart01 said
    immunity said
    bonapart01 saidmuslims make 3 times more children at least than western world, you have a choice, do everything you can to live as gay person, or to live in islamic country where you would probably be hung
    you can make a choice not to have children, but worlds population will not decline because of that it will simply be overtaken by others
    You aren't making any sense now. icon_rolleyes.gif



    well I live in Europe, where native population is declining and immigration is on the highest high, Europe is becoming islamised, what it means is after few decades it is possible that there will be no Europe as you know it and it is simply because people are not making children

    as a society I believe people need to support those who make children, in Europe it is crucial


    Nope, if you want kids, it's your fucking problem. Not mine. If being a parent is so awesome and it's seen as an act of heroism why don't parents take care of their own children? Fuck that shit. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Parents do take care of their children for the most part.
    I can't speak for your parents, but judging by your stupidity I'd reckon they did a pretty shitty job with you.




    Yeah, and they need childless people to pay more taxes. Fucking breeders. Also, you look like a toddler with a beard.



    somebody is bitter he will never have kids.... icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 01, 2014 6:42 PM GMT
    bonapart01 said
    Xavier92 said
    Import said
    Xavier92 said
    bonapart01 said
    immunity said
    bonapart01 saidmuslims make 3 times more children at least than western world, you have a choice, do everything you can to live as gay person, or to live in islamic country where you would probably be hung
    you can make a choice not to have children, but worlds population will not decline because of that it will simply be overtaken by others
    You aren't making any sense now. icon_rolleyes.gif



    well I live in Europe, where native population is declining and immigration is on the highest high, Europe is becoming islamised, what it means is after few decades it is possible that there will be no Europe as you know it and it is simply because people are not making children

    as a society I believe people need to support those who make children, in Europe it is crucial


    Nope, if you want kids, it's your fucking problem. Not mine. If being a parent is so awesome and it's seen as an act of heroism why don't parents take care of their own children? Fuck that shit. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Parents do take care of their children for the most part.
    I can't speak for your parents, but judging by your stupidity I'd reckon they did a pretty shitty job with you.




    Yeah, and they need childless people to pay more taxes. Fucking breeders. Also, you look like a toddler with a beard.


    they don't ''need'' you in any way, you are not taking part of anybodies life directly, all you do is pay few dollars more for the society to benefit as a whole. Pretty much nothing is required from you. You need other people too in your every day life. it goes both ways.


    Cool, if they don't need anyone then they don't need childless folks to pay higher taxes.
  • tj85016

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    Apr 01, 2014 7:58 PM GMT
    we should tax children, they just suck up resources and drool
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    Apr 01, 2014 8:01 PM GMT
    Childless tax payers already pay tax that pays for schools and children's services so I don't think they need to pay more as they already contributing.
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    Apr 01, 2014 8:26 PM GMT
    parents should pay for their own kids, instead of having he rest of society helping support them ... you want em, you pay for em ... unless of course you want help me with feeding my dog and paying his vet bills, then maybe we can negotiate.
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    Apr 01, 2014 9:33 PM GMT
    I must admit that this is a rather refreshing thread. Here I bailed out of good old America so I would no longer have to pay for the upkeep of anchor babies and all of the other assorted retards on the government dole; and you guys are expressing similar pain.

    Don't vote for such stupidity next time.

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    Apr 01, 2014 11:10 PM GMT
    conservativejock saidI must admit that this is a rather refreshing thread. Here I bailed out of good old America so I would no longer have to pay for the upkeep of anchor babies and all of the other assorted retards on the government dole; and you guys are expressing similar pain.

    Don't vote for such stupidity next time.



    how in the world can you not see that the Democrat/Liberal agenda has been to suck everyone into a mediocre, least common denominator hell hole, just look at Europe

    the Republicans/Conservatives suck at governing also

    it's just a giant governmental debt-ridden cluster fuck
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    Apr 02, 2014 7:16 PM GMT
    immunity saidOh man I was hoping this was an april fools joke.
    Fuck off, people with kids should pay way more taxes because they're the assholes filling the world with the people that need the taxes for things like schools and hospitals in the first place.


    As a single parent of four (4) boys, I don't think that single or childless people should pay more in taxes. I don't agree with tax credits of any kind because tax credits are not tax cuts. Tax credits are simply a way for governments to manipulate people into certain types of behavior. Neither do I believe in tax deductions, so long as a flat tax is instituted which wipes out all tax credits and deductions and broadens the tax base.
    Having said that, based on your comments in this thread:

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3755870?forumpage=3

    "No, I'm not employed. I'm not a welfare case either. I get disability benefits."

    I just wonder if you could clarify some of your statements in this thread?

    Oh man I was hoping this was an april fools joke.(I'm wondering if your comments here are not an April fool's joke ?
    Fuck off, people with kids should pay way more taxes because they're the assholes filling the world with the people (are you referring to your parents here?) that need the taxes for things like schools and hospitals in the first place(are you referring to yourself here, as since you collect tax payer funded disability payments and have obviously benefited from taxpayer funded schools and other services)."

    but who makes up society?
    People.
    and where do people come from?
    babies.
    and where do babies come from?
    NOT THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT KIDS.
    Could you explain why taxpayers should fund your disability payments, as most of us obviously don't want to fund your disability payments. BTW, how did you get here, was it because of people who want "KIDS" ?

    "Pay for your own fucking children (again, are you referring to your parents? You do know that if you are collecting disability payments, your parents are not paying for their "own fucking children", but the tax payers are) ). If I had it my way nobody would have any children and the human race would become extinct (why haven't you had the convictions of your beliefs and been the first to lead the way to human extinction? ). "
    ). "

    "Neither is making us pay for your shitty kids."
    You are not employed and are actually receiving benefits paid for by taxpayers, so how are you paying for anyone's "shitty kids" ? Since my children don't receive government benefits paid for by tax payers and you do, I would have to conclude that you are the "shitty" kid.


    "Why do I have to pay because some other person made a choice that I don't agree with? "
    Again, since you are not employed and earn nothing and are in fact living off of benefits provided by actual taxpayers, could you explain to me how you "have to pay because some other person made a choice that I don't agree with?" ?

    "You aren't making any sense now."
    In light of the fact that you are not employed, pay no taxes and in fact are the beneficiary of benefits paid for by those who do pay taxes, nothing you've said here makes any sense !

    "I see your point, but it is still unfair to those who choose to not have children.
    It's even more unfair to those who want children but can't have them."
    Is it not also unfair to those of us who do not collect disability payments or want to collect disability to pay taxes so you can collect disability benefits?

    I guess I'm left wondering exactly why you are complaining so much here, when you earn nothing, pay no taxes and are receiving taxpayer funded benefits paid for, no doubt, by the very people with children that you are complaining about, the majority of whom (unlike you) actually do pay taxes. Inlight of the fact that you pay no taxes and in fact benefit from the taxes paid by others, what credibility on this subject do you have?
    One other question, how exactly is collecting disability payments from a system you haven't paid into not welfare?








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    Apr 02, 2014 9:54 PM GMT
    How is making people with no children pay higher taxes "contributing" to society? Not all babies are contributions to society. icon_rolleyes.gif

    They could turn out to be dirtbags/criminals.
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    Apr 03, 2014 1:02 AM GMT
    bonapart01 said
    immunity said
    bonapart01 saidChildless should pay more tax, definitely
    It is a contribution to society
    but who makes up society?
    People.
    and where do people come from?
    babies.
    and where do babies come from?
    NOT THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT KIDS.


    exactly, so those who do not have children should support partially those who make children and makes contribution to society, it goes both ways, without children there wouldn't be any western civilisation, without new generation there wouldn't be new ideas, you or well anything and those who make the population decline ( which is happening all over western civilisation ) should support more those, who have children
    That's bullshit. The childless should not pay more taxes. It is the responsibility of the people bringing children into this world to support them and take care of them. It should not be the responsibility of childless singles like myself to help them support their families. That is wrong and I think it is discriminatory as well.
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    Apr 03, 2014 1:09 AM GMT
    I'm not planning on having children but I accept that I live in a society with certain obvious interdependencies. In short, we need kids.
    Those kids need to be fed and educated and we all have a stake in their future. It's our future too.
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    Apr 03, 2014 1:11 AM GMT
    ant811 saidHow is making people with no children pay higher taxes "contributing" to society? Not all babies are contributions to society. icon_rolleyes.gif

    They could turn out to be dirtbags/criminals.



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