Do you believe in human "souls"?

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    Apr 02, 2014 11:09 PM GMT
    What's your evidence?
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    Apr 03, 2014 12:03 AM GMT
    Of course. There's no scientific evidence and none needed. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 03, 2014 12:36 AM GMT
    I've heard some pretty convincing stories, that's all i'll say...
  • Breeman

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    Apr 03, 2014 1:04 AM GMT
    Absolutely! I've learned not to rule anything out.
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    Apr 03, 2014 1:19 AM GMT
    I like the idea as it's comforting, but then feel the burden of accommodating monkey souls as well
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    Apr 03, 2014 1:22 AM GMT
    I don't believe in them. I believe in consciousness. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 03, 2014 1:29 AM GMT
    yes. i was standing over my father when died, and i felt him pass through me.
    it wasn't his consciousness - that would be his own thoughts. what i experienced was ephemeral. it was not my emotion, it was his spirit, his essence, his energy. and when i looked down at his body, it didn't look like him at all. it was an empty vessel.
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    Apr 03, 2014 1:36 AM GMT
    Of course I don't. It's comforting hogwash.
  • UVaRob9

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    Apr 03, 2014 2:52 AM GMT
    Not at all, since there's no evidence to support the existence of souls and every definition given also defies evidence, same with supernatural gods. People are certainly entitled to their opinion on the topic, but they're not entitled to their own facts.
  • Phoebuz

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    Apr 03, 2014 2:55 AM GMT
    UVaRob9 saidNot at all, since there's no evidence to support the existence of souls and every definition given also defies evidence, same with supernatural gods. People are certainly entitled to their opinion on the topic, but they're not entitled to their own facts.


    Excellently put!
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    Apr 03, 2014 3:20 AM GMT
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    Read this and then come back to the thread saying in a good rebuttal there's no human soul.
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    Apr 03, 2014 3:25 AM GMT
    How to get the book and the author's website.

    http://www.malibupublishing.com/Malibu-Publishing/Books-Infinite_Mind.html

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    Apr 03, 2014 4:07 AM GMT
    Human soul whats that.

    I believe in cyborg souls.
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    Apr 03, 2014 4:38 AM GMT
    Do you believe Chastity Bono is a man?

    What's your evidence?
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    Apr 03, 2014 4:39 AM GMT
    Phoebuz said
    UVaRob9 saidNot at all, since there's no evidence to support the existence of souls and every definition given also defies evidence, same with supernatural gods. People are certainly entitled to their opinion on the topic, but they're not entitled to their own facts.


    Excellently put!


    Yes, he should trademark that last sentence before someone else uses it.
  • jb63piedmont

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    Apr 03, 2014 5:28 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    UVaRob9 saidNot at all, since there's no evidence to support the existence of souls and every definition given also defies evidence, same with supernatural gods. People are certainly entitled to their opinion on the topic, but they're not entitled to their own facts.


    Belief in something beyond one's self has nothing to do with facts. The "fact" that you worded your last sentence the way you did is pretty evident that you cannot distinguish between the two. My guess is you said what you did as an attempt to usurp the beliefs of a demographic that is not in alignment with yours and as an attempt to be clever. But an educated person would not compare beliefs and opinions against facts.


    Comparing beliefs and opinions against facts is exactly what an educated person (or a rational one) would do. You can believe that the earth is flat all day long, but the factual evidence indicates otherwise. Right now there is no factual evidence that such a thing as a soul exists.
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    Apr 03, 2014 5:54 AM GMT
    No. Would it make a difference even if we had one? Probably not.
  • ATLANTIS7

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    Apr 03, 2014 6:05 AM GMT
    Yes why do you ask and where is your profile?
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    Apr 03, 2014 6:16 AM GMT
    I am skeptical. I think human thought and conscience are remarkable things, but it is not enough to convince me that souls exist. It's a beautiful thought, but so is a world with no crime or an end to world hunger.
  • secondstartot...

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    Apr 03, 2014 6:23 AM GMT
    its hard to say....it has hardly been defined has it ? no definitive agreement as to what a soul actually is and what it is meant to do .... how is it different to my thoughts and memories ?

    - it is very difficult to find a black cat in a black room....particularly if there is no cat -
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    Apr 03, 2014 10:39 AM GMT
    Sometimes I feel like my body is more of a vessel for something invisible, what some would call the soul or spirit. Its that feeling that, someday, when its time for me to die, my existence will live beyond the body.

    I can understand why persons would find that hard to accept, you are born human, your body growing everyday of your life. Its kind of hard to fathom anything beyond it.

    I just feel that, something lives beyond you, as some say, the consciousness of my existence makes me believe that. Sometimes, I feel like I am on the inside of something, looking outside.
  • jayrogers

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    Apr 03, 2014 11:21 AM GMT
    I hope we each have a soul, but I'm not sure.

    I don't like the idea that everyone who's ever existed is some meaningless, biochemical mass.

    If souls don't exist, then love doesn't either. Your feelings for others are merely a byproduct of evolutionary programming designed to maintain the species.

    The funny thing is, even the atheists and humanists that I know — who often seem to look down on people of faith — they still want to have and try to create purpose in their lives.

    But, ultimately, if atheists are correct and there is no God or human soul, most of them are lying to themselves just as much as they believe people of faith are lying to themselves.

    Because if we're merely some cosmic accident with no afterlife, there really is no purpose or meaning in life. Most of us will be forgotten within four generations of our family or so. I mean, how much do you know about your great, great grandparents?

    And even the most famous historical figures are ultimately then meaningless as well, because the human race will eventually destroy itself, and even if it somehow didn't and survived millions of year, the sun in our solar system will eventually either go our or grow so large it destroys us.

    If there's no soul and no afterlife, then the most logical thing we could all do is deny our empathy for others and be as self-serving as possible, living life to the fullest in the short time we have.



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    Apr 03, 2014 11:28 AM GMT
    My two cents. The "soul" is not something that is quantifiable or measurable; therefore, it is outside the realm of science, i.e. not within the "natural" realm to be examined as such by the typical methodologies.

    What one CAN observe are the effects of what we call "the soul", the ramifications and consequences of a soul in relation to our existential lives, behavior, content of our thoughts, intentions, pursuit and appreciation of art and beauty, relationships, self-perception, social interactions, our experiences with and about God, … love, etc. All these are the realm of sociology, spirituality/religion, philosophy, metaphysics, humanities, testimonies through the ages, etc. The study of these "patterns/observations" in culmination point to the notion of a "soul".

    So in that sense, it "exists" -- even if one might simply call it a mental construct. Like the Bible says in John 3, the Spirit is like the wind. You may not see it, but you do see its effects through the branches and the leaves. And so, we do witness the effects of "soul"…

    The simplest notion in my mind of it "existing" is recognizing how we as humans seek "meaning". The soul seeks to connect with Truth and meaning. Without a soul, frankly, everything is really "meaningless".

    Anyway, that's how I think of it. Feel free to chime in. icon_smile.gif Alway curious what others think.
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    Apr 03, 2014 1:32 PM GMT
    SOUL FUCK YEAH

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    Apr 03, 2014 1:36 PM GMT
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    If there were no soul, why would there be a need for a queen?