Compassion, Universal Health Care and Jesus

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    Apr 03, 2014 8:40 PM GMT
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    I've been noticing something for quite some time now: I see a definite pattern between those who are vehemently opposed to universal heath care, and highly religious people (specifically Fundamentalist Christians.) I find this quite odd since Jesus' biggest message was that of compassion. Jesus spend his whole life breaking down social/economic barriers and purity standards. He wanted everyone to be taken care of. So why of all people are these people the ones against universal healthcare?
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    Apr 03, 2014 8:52 PM GMT
    there is a ton of money behind all of this. None of these companies want to give up their market share and they have no interest in making health care affordable.

    The Duck Dynasty runs thick in america. We will endlessly debate helth care for years to come, even tho for the average joe it will not effect his life one way or another.
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    Apr 03, 2014 9:21 PM GMT
    Scruffypup said

    He wanted everyone to be taken care of. So why of all people are these people the ones against universal healthcare?


    If he wanted everyone to be taken care of he would have opened free clinics. He had the resources. Damn, he multipled loaves and fishes to feed multitudes. Surely he could have provided universal healthcare.
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    Apr 03, 2014 9:34 PM GMT
    pellaz saidthere is a ton of money behind all of this. None of these companies want to give up their market share and they have no interest in making health care affordable.


    I'm mostly talking about individual perception.
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    Apr 03, 2014 9:39 PM GMT
    Fundamentalists like for things to be one way and unchanging. Once the path is is set, keep it. Therefore, changing the way things are done or threatening the status quo is difficult for them to accept.
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    Apr 03, 2014 9:41 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    Scruffypup said

    He wanted everyone to be taken care of. So why of all people are these people the ones against universal healthcare?


    If he wanted everyone to be taken care of he would have opened free clinics. He had the resources. Damn, he multipled loaves and fishes to feed multitudes. Surely he could have provided universal healthcare.


    lol
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    Apr 03, 2014 9:46 PM GMT
    the power of Christ compels you!

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    Apr 03, 2014 10:09 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    UndercoverMan said
    Scruffypup said

    He wanted everyone to be taken care of. So why of all people are these people the ones against universal healthcare?


    If he wanted everyone to be taken care of he would have opened free clinics. He had the resources. Damn, he multipled loaves and fishes to feed multitudes. Surely he could have provided universal healthcare.


    lol


    Did Jesus heal everyone with an ailment? No. Jesus, by his very actions demonstrated he is against universal healthcare.
  • Webster666

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    Apr 03, 2014 10:25 PM GMT
    There's a reason they're called, "Religious NUTS."

    WWJD ?

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    Apr 04, 2014 2:44 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    tj85016 said
    UndercoverMan said
    Scruffypup said

    He wanted everyone to be taken care of. So why of all people are these people the ones against universal healthcare?


    If he wanted everyone to be taken care of he would have opened free clinics. He had the resources. Damn, he multipled loaves and fishes to feed multitudes. Surely he could have provided universal healthcare.


    lol


    Did Jesus heal everyone with an ailment? No. Jesus, by his very actions demonstrated he is against universal healthcare.


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    are you aware of what Jesus actually taught?
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    Apr 04, 2014 3:27 AM GMT
    You've noticed many things, and have learned nothing.

    Charity at gunpoint is an absurdity. It also happens to be the white Liberal definition of "altruism."

    It matters not whether I say Praise Jesus or Fuck Jesus. Rule of Law, bitches. All else is insanity.
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    Apr 04, 2014 3:28 AM GMT
    pasfu31 said
    UndercoverMan said
    tj85016 said
    UndercoverMan said
    Scruffypup said

    He wanted everyone to be taken care of. So why of all people are these people the ones against universal healthcare?


    If he wanted everyone to be taken care of he would have opened free clinics. He had the resources. Damn, he multipled loaves and fishes to feed multitudes. Surely he could have provided universal healthcare.


    lol


    Did Jesus heal everyone with an ailment? No. Jesus, by his very actions demonstrated he is against universal healthcare.


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    are you aware of what Jesus actually taught?


    he taught my mom to put a $10 bill in a fucking basket every Sunday morning icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 04, 2014 4:10 AM GMT
    Jack_NNJ saidYou've noticed many things, and have learned nothing.

    Charity at gunpoint is an absurdity. It also happens to be the white Liberal definition of "altruism."

    It matters not whether I say Praise Jesus or Fuck Jesus. Rule of Law, bitches. All else is insanity.


    Yup, you're a Christian alright. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 04, 2014 4:13 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidJust to be clear, Jesus spent the last few years of his 'adult' life toward spreading his political message. There are huge gaps from adolescence throughout his twenties that are not accounted for.

    And who's to say any of that is truly accurate? I don't put too much weight in biblical 'stories that have been selectively spoon fed to us from the Vatican.


    The stories of the "Pre-Easter" Jesus have been found to be pretty factual accounts of his life. It's the "Post-Easter" Jesus where a lot of shit was made up.
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    Apr 04, 2014 4:15 AM GMT
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    Scruffypup saidwho_would_jesus_deny_healthcare_to_hat-p
    I've been noticing something for quite some time now: I see a definite pattern between those who are vehemently opposed to universal heath care, and highly religious people (specifically Fundamentalist Christians.) I find this quite odd since Jesus' biggest message was that of compassion. Jesus spend his whole life breaking down social/economic barriers and purity standards. He wanted everyone to be taken care of. So why of all people are these people the ones against universal healthcare?



    What do you mean by "universal healthcare?"

    Everyone in the USA has had that for decades. They can walk into any hospital or clinic and not be refused treatment.

    I think what you mean is that everyone should receive health care that is paid for by the Federal government, no?


    Correct. Paying for everyone's health care via individual donations is a little ridiculous, don't ya think? We're already pooling our money through the government, so why not let it be funneled to those less fortunate?
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    Scruffypup saidwho_would_jesus_deny_healthcare_to_hat-p
    I've been noticing something for quite some time now: I see a definite pattern between those who are vehemently opposed to universal heath care, and highly religious people (specifically Fundamentalist Christians.) I find this quite odd since Jesus' biggest message was that of compassion. Jesus spend his whole life breaking down social/economic barriers and purity standards. He wanted everyone to be taken care of. So why of all people are these people the ones against universal healthcare?


    I wonder if I posted what I intended to days ago, it would have prevented the creation of this thread...or for that matter your God thread as well...ah, so many missed opportunities... But let me just say this, that while people don't like burdens, and thus taxes, they still love entitlements, irregardless of their political or religious identification, and if Obamacare is really set up to fail as it's architect, Ezekiel Emanuel, intended it to, then what we will see is the collectivization of medical care in this country, which no one really wants to see in this country.
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    Apr 04, 2014 8:57 AM GMT
    Though called Obamacare, I think Barack Obama and many Democrats themselves are realizing that they have been duped and hoodwinked by people who truly wanted a scheme of universal payment and managed care that would only come as a perceived solution to the headaches Obamacare would cause. I'll sure miss those mobility scooter commercials that come on late at night...as there wouldn't be any more money for that and many seniors would now be on a fast track to death by their doctors to ever want to use a mobility scooter at all.
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    Apr 04, 2014 11:15 AM GMT
    Yes Jesus was a socialist.
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    Apr 04, 2014 11:23 AM GMT
    Decadence_of_Art saidYes Jesus was a socialist.


    I use the book "The Political Teachings of Jesus" as my guide in politics.
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    Apr 04, 2014 3:42 PM GMT
    Because to be religious, you have to be trained to follow without thinking. Religious training requires the suspension of intellect. And the right-wing has gotten religious leaders in their pocket. Ironically, Christians have become the least Christian of all, except maybe Muslims. They are just barbaric.
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    Apr 04, 2014 3:52 PM GMT
    pasfu31 said
    UndercoverMan said
    tj85016 said
    UndercoverMan said
    Scruffypup said

    He wanted everyone to be taken care of. So why of all people are these people the ones against universal healthcare?


    If he wanted everyone to be taken care of he would have opened free clinics. He had the resources. Damn, he multipled loaves and fishes to feed multitudes. Surely he could have provided universal healthcare.


    lol


    Did Jesus heal everyone with an ailment? No. Jesus, by his very actions demonstrated he is against universal healthcare.


    fry-not-sure-if-trolling_191.jpg?w=538

    are you aware of what Jesus actually taught?


    Yes, I am quite aware and he didn't preach government sponsored universal healthcare.
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    Apr 04, 2014 5:17 PM GMT
    Jack_NNJ saidYou've noticed many things, and have learned nothing.

    Charity at gunpoint is an absurdity. It also happens to be the white Liberal definition of "altruism."

    It matters not whether I say Praise Jesus or Fuck Jesus.


    You're a walking, breathing pile of cognitive dissonance. Please explain how the Canadians are OK with "charity at gunpoint." Or maybe your endless, fucked up hyperbole is how you can call yourself a Christian AND hate civilization.

    By the way, universal health care is not charity. Look it up, asshole.
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    Apr 04, 2014 5:19 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidYes, I am quite aware and he didn't preach government sponsored universal healthcare.
    Nor did he preach that machines should do stock trading measured in milliseconds. What's your point?
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    Apr 04, 2014 5:22 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidBecause to be religious, you have to be trained to follow without thinking. Religious training requires the suspension of intellect. And the right-wing has gotten religious leaders in their pocket. Ironically, Christians have become the least Christian of all, except maybe Muslims. They are just barbaric.

    All completely untrue and very prejudicial thinking.
    Regardless of its value, most of the RJ atheists haven't got a clue what religion is.
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