another one bites the dust!

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    Apr 04, 2014 10:26 PM GMT
    Federal Judge Black has given warning that he is strking down the marriage ban in my home state of OHIO!
    His alert is to allow the state to prepare to file its appeal. . . no word on if the state will appeal. . .interesting stuff for this swing state! Stay tuned!
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    Apr 05, 2014 2:20 AM GMT
    A spokesman for AG Mike DeWine said he will appeal.
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    Apr 05, 2014 2:56 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidToo bad Obama's "evolving on the topic of gay marriage" ended at "it's up to the states to decide" but as usual, with everything he says, the opposite happens (in this case, his Federal government is forcing the issue).

    Huh? He doesn't control the decisions of individual jurists. Your hatred is warping your knowledge of how the government actually works.
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    Apr 05, 2014 3:02 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidHe controls the Justice department. Aren't these judges under the Justice department?


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/our-government/judicial-branch
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    Apr 05, 2014 3:03 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Sharkadelic said
    southbeach1500 saidToo bad Obama's "evolving on the topic of gay marriage" ended at "it's up to the states to decide" but as usual, with everything he says, the opposite happens (in this case, his Federal government is forcing the issue).

    Huh? He doesn't control the decisions of individual jurists. Your hatred is warping your knowledge of how the government actually works.


    He controls the Justice department. Aren't these judges under the Justice department?

    Um, no, actually they're not.
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    Apr 05, 2014 3:03 AM GMT
    It's silly that it's a state by state thing!
    I'm going to be my best friend's, Best Man at his October wedding in Santa Fe, NM.
    Pity it has to be in a state that's legal vs. right here at home!
    It's going to be recognized federally, so I don't see what all the big fuss is about.
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    Apr 05, 2014 3:13 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    TheGuyNextDoor saidIt's silly that it's a state by state thing!


    Exactly! Civil rights in the 60s wasn't declared "an issue for each state to decide on their own" by the President. Yet Obama has "evolved" to that exact position.

    I don't blame my inability to get married in my current state on the President of the US.
    Personally, I think it's all just a matter of time before it's legal everywhere.
    In the meantime, I'll probably just fly to another state to do it.
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    Apr 05, 2014 3:14 AM GMT
    Iceblink saidA spokesman for AG Mike DeWine said he will appeal.


    Mike DeWine is considered a moderate Republican. Even their moderates can't support marriage equality. Republicans are doomed.
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    Apr 05, 2014 3:25 AM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor said
    I don't blame my inability to get married in my current state on the President of the US.
    But he is to blame for those earthquakes in Chile. I read that on freerepublic.
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    Apr 05, 2014 3:26 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    TheGuyNextDoor said
    southbeach1500 said
    TheGuyNextDoor saidIt's silly that it's a state by state thing!


    Exactly! Civil rights in the 60s wasn't declared "an issue for each state to decide on their own" by the President. Yet Obama has "evolved" to that exact position.

    I don't blame my inability to get married in my current state on the President of the US.


    Of course not. icon_wink.gif

    Well, should I? Can he make it happen overnight.
    Show me one President before him that has ever said anything openly positive about the gays in front of an entire nation as this one has.
    Just one....icon_neutral.gif
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    Apr 05, 2014 3:29 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Sharkadelic said
    southbeach1500 said
    Sharkadelic said
    southbeach1500 saidToo bad Obama's "evolving on the topic of gay marriage" ended at "it's up to the states to decide" but as usual, with everything he says, the opposite happens (in this case, his Federal government is forcing the issue).

    Huh? He doesn't control the decisions of individual jurists. Your hatred is warping your knowledge of how the government actually works.


    He controls the Justice department. Aren't these judges under the Justice department?

    Um, no, actually they're not.


    On that we will disagree. The President exerts a LOT of influence over Federal judges.

    No he doesn't. Has NO influence over judges. Only gets to appoint them when the office is vacant, and IF he can get senate approval. He does get to tell the Justice Department (Attorney General) what position to take in any given case.
  • Suetonius

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    Apr 05, 2014 3:33 AM GMT
    Sharkadelic said
    TheGuyNextDoor said
    I don't blame my inability to get married in my current state on the President of the US.
    But he is to blame for those earthquakes in Chile. I read that on freerepublic.

    Sharkie, that doesn't make sense - if he was going to cause earthquakes, why wouldn't he cause come in Russia, Iran, or North Korea? Or was he trying for Venezuela, but missed?
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    Apr 05, 2014 2:18 PM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor saidIt's silly that it's a state by state thing!
    I'm going to be my best friend's, Best Man at his October wedding in Santa Fe, NM.
    Pity it has to be in a state that's legal vs. right here at home!
    It's going to be recognized federally, so I don't see what all the big fuss is about.
    Time for you to abandon intolerant, homophobic Texas and move to either New Mexico or any other state that permits and recognizes gay marriage.
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    Apr 05, 2014 2:23 PM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor said
    southbeach1500 said
    TheGuyNextDoor said
    southbeach1500 said
    TheGuyNextDoor saidIt's silly that it's a state by state thing!


    Exactly! Civil rights in the 60s wasn't declared "an issue for each state to decide on their own" by the President. Yet Obama has "evolved" to that exact position.

    I don't blame my inability to get married in my current state on the President of the US.


    Of course not. icon_wink.gif

    Well, should I? Can he make it happen overnight.
    Show me one President before him that has ever said anything openly positive about the gays in front of an entire nation as this one has.
    Just one....icon_neutral.gif


    How about former Vice Presidents? Does that count?
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    Apr 05, 2014 2:34 PM GMT
    CarolinaMan said
    Iceblink saidA spokesman for AG Mike DeWine said he will appeal.


    Mike DeWine is considered a moderate Republican. Even their moderates can't support marriage equality. Republicans are doomed.


    Moderate to conservative. He did oppose the state constitutional amendment banning homosexual marriage. supported the assault weapon ban. anti abortion.

    "DeWine is opposed to legal abortion. In the Senate, he was the lead sponsor of the Unborn Victims of Violence Act.[7]

    DeWine opposes same-sex marriage and sponsored the Federal Marriage Amendment but opposed State Issue 1, Ohio's constitutional amendment defining marriage as one man and one woman.

    In 2004 DeWine co-sponsored an amendment to renew the ban on common semi-automatic weapons.[8] He was one of only two Republican senators to vote against the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act ,[9] which banned lawsuits against gun manufacturers, distributors and dealers for criminal misuse of their products. In the 2006 election cycle, DeWine was the first senatorial candidate to be endorsed by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and displayed that endorsement on his campaign webpage.[10] Furthermore, DeWine authored Senate Bill 954, to extend lifetime bans on gun ownership on citizens who happened to get a conviction in a foreign country, which carried a jail term of more than a year. That bill only garnered the endorsement of one other Senator, Dianne Feinstein of California.[11]"
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    Apr 05, 2014 2:35 PM GMT
    Suetonius said
    southbeach1500 said
    Sharkadelic said
    southbeach1500 said
    Sharkadelic said
    southbeach1500 saidToo bad Obama's "evolving on the topic of gay marriage" ended at "it's up to the states to decide" but as usual, with everything he says, the opposite happens (in this case, his Federal government is forcing the issue).

    Huh? He doesn't control the decisions of individual jurists. Your hatred is warping your knowledge of how the government actually works.


    He controls the Justice department. Aren't these judges under the Justice department?

    Um, no, actually they're not.


    On that we will disagree. The President exerts a LOT of influence over Federal judges.

    No he doesn't. Has NO influence over judges. Only gets to appoint them when the office is vacant, and IF he can get senate approval. He does get to tell the Justice Department (Attorney General) what position to take in any given case.


    Correct.
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    Apr 05, 2014 2:37 PM GMT
    Sporty_G saidFederal Judge Black has given warning that he is strking down the marriage ban in my home state of OHIO!
    His alert is to allow the state to prepare to file its appeal. . . no word on if the state will appeal. . .interesting stuff for this swing state! Stay tuned!


    I don't think so. I think it was just recognition of marriages from other states, but the Ohio ban was left in place.

    I haven't paid much attention to it, but I believe that's what it is.
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    Apr 05, 2014 2:52 PM GMT
    really really tired of hearing about Obamaicon_sad.gif
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    Apr 05, 2014 3:10 PM GMT
    Just consider it the President as Scapegoat Syndrome.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 05, 2014 3:14 PM GMT
    pellaz saidreally really tired of hearing about Obamaicon_sad.gif
    You have another two and a half years to go under Obama and than a new President will be elected. I am just hoping that it isn't that hapless Hillary ho.
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    Apr 05, 2014 3:20 PM GMT
    pellaz saidreally really tired of hearing about Obamaicon_sad.gif


    Well, what can you say, that's Southbeach1500. Everything is about Obama.
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    Apr 05, 2014 5:45 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidOn that we will disagree. The President exerts a LOT of influence over Federal judges.

    By nominating new ones? Has it been a few years since your civics classes? Federal appointments from Johnson's term are still in office.
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    Apr 05, 2014 5:51 PM GMT
    love seeing the dominoes fall... i'm sure the state of Ohio will appeal, but the writing is on the wall.
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    Apr 05, 2014 6:59 PM GMT
    Sharkadelic said
    southbeach1500 saidToo bad Obama's "evolving on the topic of gay marriage" ended at "it's up to the states to decide" but as usual, with everything he says, the opposite happens (in this case, his Federal government is forcing the issue).

    Huh? He doesn't control the decisions of individual jurists. Your hatred is warping your knowledge of how the government actually works.


    both Hilary and Obama were against same sex marriage
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    Apr 05, 2014 7:03 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    Sharkadelic said
    southbeach1500 saidToo bad Obama's "evolving on the topic of gay marriage" ended at "it's up to the states to decide" but as usual, with everything he says, the opposite happens (in this case, his Federal government is forcing the issue).

    Huh? He doesn't control the decisions of individual jurists. Your hatred is warping your knowledge of how the government actually works.


    both Hilary and Obama were against same sex marriage
    Thank you.