TV on my computer is great! Have you tried this?

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    Dec 28, 2008 7:34 PM GMT
    I got a TV converter for my Mac computer, so I could move the TV out of the home office, making room for other things, not to mention a cleaner look. We're going to donate the old TV to a charity agency.

    The results are great! I can put TV programs (from satellite) in a separate window while I work on other things on the computer, like RJ online. Or when I want to just concentrate on the TV image, a double-click on the TV window fills the whole computer screen.

    Plus the sound is super, using the 8 forward-facing harman/kardon speakers I have for the Mac, in addition to a subwoofer. Much better than the dinky speakers on the table-top TV I was watching previously. Not to mention that I don't have to keep swiveling away from the computer screen to watch TV. And the TV controls are from the keyboard & mouse.

    Anybody else do this? I highly recommend it. Naturally we have several more TVs for watching in other rooms, but while using the office computer this is a great solution.
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    Dec 28, 2008 7:55 PM GMT
    yeah I have one connected to my mini which is connected to my tv, its really cool, lets me watch free to air high definition stuff and I can record tv shows as well, even better icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 28, 2008 8:43 PM GMT
    What's the best TV tuner for a Mac? I've heard good things about the Elgato EyeTV, but I don't know what else is available.
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    Dec 28, 2008 11:53 PM GMT
    paradox saidWhat's the best TV tuner for a Mac? I've heard good things about the Elgato EyeTV, but I don't know what else is available.

    Elgato EyeTV3 is what I have, sold through the local Apple store. A bit of blocking when I first start it, that goes away in a few minutes, not sure what that is, still learning about the thing after only 2 days.

    The EyeTV Hybrid device requires a recent and fast Mac, while the EyeTV 250 (more expensive) does the signal conversion internally, and can be used with a slower Mac. Visit a Mac store for advice if one is nearby, and/or see the Elgato site.

    http://elgato.com/elgato/na/mainmenu/home.en.html
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    Dec 29, 2008 12:22 AM GMT
    lilTanker saidyeah I have one connected to my mini which is connected to my tv, its really cool, lets me watch free to air high definition stuff and I can record tv shows as well, even better icon_biggrin.gif


    Yeah, I'm tempted to get an HD antenna to connect to the Elgato converter, in addition to the S-Video feed from the satellite box. We'll eventually get HDTV satellite service, but we've got some structural issues to overcome, since HD adds 2 more wires from the dish, the original 2 having been concealed in the walls during a renovation.
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    Dec 29, 2008 12:23 AM GMT
    yeah, did this in college...circa 2001 (:
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    Dec 29, 2008 5:16 AM GMT
    I connected my mac to my TV, but can't figure out a way for my laptop not to go into sleep mode and make the picture go off without moving the mouse.

    Now that netflix does streaming movies for macs, I'm bummed I can't get this to work.
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    Dec 29, 2008 5:40 AM GMT
    atlnvmasc saidI connected my mac to my TV, but can't figure out a way for my laptop not to go into sleep mode and make the picture go off without moving the mouse.

    Now that netflix does streaming movies for macs, I'm bummed I can't get this to work.

    you don't want a macmini? macbook? macbook pro? iMac? Mac Pro? to go into sleep? try http://lightheadsw.com/caffeine/

    What do you mean about the picture though?
  • vindog

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    Dec 29, 2008 11:57 PM GMT
    Like if you don't move the mouse the screen goes black which, in turn, causes my tv to go black.


    Caffeine sounds great right now.
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    Dec 30, 2008 9:45 AM GMT
    vindog saidLike if you don't move the mouse the screen goes black which, in turn, causes my tv to go black.


    Caffeine sounds great right now.

    Yeah caffeine will do what you want.. and its free icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 30, 2008 9:52 AM GMT
    lilTanker saidYeah caffeine will do what you want.. and its free icon_biggrin.gif


    Caffeine is free? Where? gimme!
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    Dec 30, 2008 10:13 AM GMT
    Satyricon331 said
    lilTanker saidYeah caffeine will do what you want.. and its free icon_biggrin.gif


    Caffeine is free? Where? gimme!


    No. You don't need anything to boost your metabolism and more. You need a Med supreme from Papa John's and an order of cheesy bread sticks.
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    Dec 30, 2008 6:11 PM GMT
    bakejenson said
    Satyricon331 said
    lilTanker saidYeah caffeine will do what you want.. and its free icon_biggrin.gif


    Caffeine is free? Where? gimme!


    No. You don't need anything to boost your metabolism and more. You need a Med supreme from Papa John's and an order of cheesy bread sticks.



    if there was a puking emoticon i would use it now.
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    Dec 30, 2008 6:25 PM GMT
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    lilTanker saidyeah I have one connected to my mini which is connected to my tv, its really cool, lets me watch free to air high definition stuff and I can record tv shows as well, even better icon_biggrin.gif


    Yeah, I'm tempted to get an HD antenna to connect to the Elgato converter, in addition to the S-Video feed from the satellite box. We'll eventually get HDTV satellite service, but we've got some structural issues to overcome, since HD adds 2 more wires from the dish, the original 2 having been concealed in the walls during a renovation.


    Actually, that's not a problem any more. You can put an inexpensive signal splitter or diplexer on either end of a coax line. They boost one channel into a higher frequency range, allowing one cable to act as two. I originally installed two cables to the dish location, and have yet to use one of them for anything. Currently running two dishes to a two-tuner HD receiver using only one cable.
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    Dec 30, 2008 6:42 PM GMT
    vindog saidLike if you don't move the mouse the screen goes black which, in turn, causes my tv to go black.


    Caffeine sounds great right now.



    Go to "System Preferences>Energy Saver" and change your "sleep" settings. This will prevent the screen from going black.
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    Dec 30, 2008 6:47 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidActually, that's not a problem any more. You can put an inexpensive signal splitter or diplexer on either end of a coax line. They boost one channel into a higher frequency range, allowing one cable to act as two. I originally installed two cables to the dish location, and have yet to use one of them for anything. Currently running two dishes to a two-tuner HD receiver using only one cable.

    I'm surprised that DirectTV didn't suggest this to us, when we discussed our problem with them. Are you sure the full HD signal is preserved with this method? I don't want less than 1080 resolution.
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:18 PM GMT
    Yes it's 1080i. It's remotely possible that there's something special about direcTV, as opposed to all other antennae, as I see there's some specification of Dish vs Direc in these examples:
    http://www.prosatellitesupply.com/SATELLITE_DIPLEXERS_and_SPLITTERS.htm

    In my experience, video installers are a real mixed bag. Maybe a quarter of them know what they're doing. The worst experiences I had were with installation and service of the DirecWay satellite internet connection that I used to have. The installer was an idiot and the people who answered the phones were all kids in Bangalore or some place, who just had some notebook full of scripts to read at customers. It was a real pain until I got hold of the service codes for the receiver, so I could adjust it myself.

    Come to think of it, the guy who installed the HD dish couldn't get a 1080i signal out of it because he didn't know how to work the installation menus on the receiver. I had to make him stay until I was able to get it to work myself. He did supply all of the diplexers that I needed, at no extra charge.
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:26 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidYes it's 1080i. It's remotely possible that there's something special about direcTV, as opposed to all other antennae, as I see there's some specification of Dish vs Direc in these examples:
    http://www.prosatellitesupply.com/SATELLITE_DIPLEXERS_and_SPLITTERS.htm

    In my experience, video installers are a real mixed bag. Maybe a quarter of them know what they're doing. The worst experiences I had were with installation and service of the DirecWay satellite internet connection that I used to have. The installer was an idiot and the people who answered the phones were all kids in Bangalore or some place, who just had some notebook full of scripts to read at customers. It was a real pain until I got hold of the service codes for the receiver, so I could adjust it myself.

    Come to think of it, the guy who installed the HD dish couldn't get a 1080i signal out of it because he didn't know how to work the installation menus on the receiver. I had to make him stay until I was able to get it to work myself. He did supply all of the diplexers that I needed, at no extra charge.

    Yeah, we had an idiot attempt our first installation, barely spoke English, evidently from somewhere in the Caribbean, common here in South Florida. He gave up and left. I wondered how DirectTV could make money this way.

    We requested another attempt, through a company senior executive we happened to know, and a few days later someone marginally more competent appeared, and he managed the installation. But both he, and their phone service center, told us we need a full 4 cables for HD. No one has offered us any option. Hence my interest in your statements.
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:28 PM GMT
    In the UK to do this, you would have to pay additional fees for a television licence.
    Yes, you need a licence to play television in the UK, including on the computer. As our house already has a TV, I cant do this because it will probably cost another 100 pounds or so per year.
    rip. off.
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:57 PM GMT
    geneticien saidIn the UK to do this, you would have to pay additional fees for a television licence.
    Yes, you need a licence to play television in the UK, including on the computer. As our house already has a TV, I cant do this because it will probably cost another 100 pounds or so per year.
    rip. off.

    At the dawn of broadcasting a hundred years ago, the US established the principle that the airways belong to the "people" and their access cannot be restricted, except as involves national security communications. That concept still exists as a legal philosophy, but not in practical execution.

    I remember being interned to the CBS TV network as a college undergraduate, and the idea that the airwaves belonged to the people was laughable there. "We own our radio & TV channels," I was told, "And no one in the government will ever dare take them from us. They belong to us, not the people. What your professors are teaching you is only theory."

    On the other hand, neo-Cons in the Bush Administration have used the concept of "public good" and airwaves ownership to impose a right-wing agenda. Neither the Bush nor corporate viewpoints are correct under US law and tradition.

    Under our US law, the airwaves are free and open to everyone. It is not the business of government to favor one or the other, or to impose content. Still, that happens today.

    At least we do not have government fees as the UK does. Instead, we have to pay broadcast service providers who contribute heavily to political campaigns, but who are only lightly regulated by them. In many areas of the US they have a monopoly that allows them to charge whatever they wish, and the well-compensated politicians are content & silent.

    Our Federal Communications Commissions (FCC) is mostly Republican, the majority of its current members appointed by Bush, and so is pro-business and anti-consumer. Except when a media outlet offends the Christian Right, and then the FCC makes a great show of exercising its mandate to police the public airways. But otherwise the FCC lets the media have its way, and turns a blind eye to more grievous violations of the public trust.