Considering Lap Band surgery

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    Apr 05, 2014 7:34 PM GMT
    Next week, I'll have a consultation with a doctor to discuss lap band surgery.

    I'm not morbidly obese. But I guess you could call me fat. At 5'9" I'm about 220 pounds, which is a lot more than I should be. I've lost weight before, only to gain it right back.

    At my size/level of fitness, I find it extremely hard to exercise and workout on a regular basis. I do think I'm in decent shape for someone my size, but in no means can I stick to an exercise program being this heavy. I need something to curb my appetite, help me drop a few pounds, and get me motivated enough to get into a gym regularly and control my diet for good.

    I've tried every diet/exercise program you could imagine, with minimal or no results. At age 23, I feel like I'm 63. I'm always tired (I could literally sleep all day), suffer from depression, and have no energy/ambition.

    I think it's time to try something different. Considering this isn't a very invasive surgery, I think it's my best option.

    Any opinions? Know anyone who has the lap band?
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    Apr 05, 2014 7:48 PM GMT
    That sounds like an expensive surgery.

    It seems like people who resort to that surgery are usually a lot heavier and like you said, you're not morbidly obese. We're about the same height and you only weigh 70lbs more than me. And I'm small for my height. . .

    My opinion would be to look into different dieting/exercise routines.
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    Apr 05, 2014 7:59 PM GMT
    From other things you posted, you already have other problems with your body, so why surgery?
    1) You look fine to me.
    2) You can't modify your diet?
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    Apr 05, 2014 9:05 PM GMT
    No, don't do it, you don't need it, and it won't do anything for you. I had it done, I was older and much heavier, and it barely did anything for me. From the looks of your pictures, all you need is a little more motivation. This operation will achieve nothing. Doctors and hospitals are dying for work for the money, they'll do anything for a buck, especially where we live. PM me if you like.
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    Apr 05, 2014 9:46 PM GMT
    That surgery is for the morbidly obese who need to lose weight quickly for health reasons. If you start a workout routine, you'll feel your energy level go up and be better able to control your appetite. Lap band isn't even something you should be considering.
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    Apr 05, 2014 9:49 PM GMT
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    Blakes7 saidNo, don't do it, you don't need it, and it won't do anything for you. I had it done, I was older and much heavier, and it barely did anything for me. From the looks of your pictures, all you need is a little more motivation. This operation will achieve nothing. Doctors and hospitals are dying for work for the money, they'll do anything for a buck, especially where we live. PM me if you like.


    Yes, but if you live in NY or the Island and you're not attractive you're automatically an untouchable in the gay community. Not having abs is naughty and being fat is just a sin to the shallow.


    He looks frigging delicious to me....
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    Apr 05, 2014 10:02 PM GMT
    You do not look like someone I would expect to get that kind of surgery. Surprised a doctor would even allow it.
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    Apr 05, 2014 10:06 PM GMT
    Don't. Eat less and move more. Eat less and move more.
  • buddycat

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    Apr 05, 2014 10:11 PM GMT
    I should post my 2010 driver's license picture when I was in the 240s. I am currently 189. Dropped 30 pounds in 3 months recently. Currently 35 pounds lighter. Perhaps the problem is your eating habits. I probably need a new pic since I am feeling a little tighter too.
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    Apr 05, 2014 11:12 PM GMT
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    Blakes7 saidNo, don't do it, you don't need it, and it won't do anything for you. I had it done, I was older and much heavier, and it barely did anything for me. From the looks of your pictures, all you need is a little more motivation. This operation will achieve nothing. Doctors and hospitals are dying for work for the money, they'll do anything for a buck, especially where we live. PM me if you like.


    Yes, but if you live in NY or the Island and you're not attractive you're automatically an untouchable in the gay community. Not having abs is naughty and being fat is just a sin to the shallow.


    1) Why would you want to date, or care what some shallow pathetic loser thinks? My date (Not my BF just yet) is slightly chubby but such a sweetheart, I don't give a shit about abs.

    2) Not the gay community, come on. There are a lot of open minded gay men and shallow straight people, so, stop.
  • josephmovie

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    Apr 05, 2014 11:17 PM GMT
    I know two women who have had this done. In both cases it didn't really work and both had big problems with gastric reflux. They also had to be on a strict diet for the band to work, and neither could do it.
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    Apr 05, 2014 11:26 PM GMT
    bonapart01 saidlap band surgeries are for pathetic losers with lots of excuses, while there are people with genetic disorders, but those are very RARE

    rest of the population are just pathetic losers with tons of excuses, ouh yeah I tried running once and then went to mcdonalds and my weight got back blah blah blah

    I doubt these kind of people realise you have to exercise every day to make the weight stable and REALISE you cannot gain weight if you don't eat like a pig, calories you burn should equal to calories you consume


    yeah do your surgery, big chance of dying


    Guess I'm a pathetic loser then!

    If you actually knew what you were talking about, you would know that there is no "big chance of dying" with the lap band and it's actually the safest and least invasive of all weight loss surgeries. It takes about 20-30 minutes to put a lap band in, and it can be removed in as little as 15 minutes.

    Unless you've been overweight yourself, it's really easy to sit there and judge and say "you're lazy, just eat less and workout!". Don't you think I've tried that? This is my last resort, not my first.

    Last year I lost 27 pounds on my own. One year later, and I've gained it all back. And that wasn't my first attempt at getting fit.
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    Apr 05, 2014 11:57 PM GMT
    Don't get your body cut into when you can just eat smarter. Put on half a slice of cheese instead of a whole one, etc. You said you lost 30 lbs, then gained it back. Look at your diet and exercise and ask yourself how it came back.

    Seriously, you are not 300 lbs or something.
  • LJay

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    Apr 06, 2014 12:54 AM GMT
    I would not do it if I were in your shoes.

    Were you to invest half the cost of the surgery in a reputable personal trainer and a nutritionist, you could come out ahead. A few sessions with a good behavioral therapist could also be a good investment.

    A large part of making such surgery successful is dealing with very careful diet and exercise regimens after the surgery. If you are having trouble with those things now, you will have trouble with them later.

    You are right to aim for a better weight, but a balanced diet of 2400 calories a day and moderate exercise will get you there at a loss less expense that surgery and equip you to maintain your weight and health for the future.
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    Apr 06, 2014 1:27 AM GMT
    Sweetooth said
    ___________goodguygonebad said
    Blakes7 saidNo, don't do it, you don't need it, and it won't do anything for you. I had it done, I was older and much heavier, and it barely did anything for me. From the looks of your pictures, all you need is a little more motivation. This operation will achieve nothing. Doctors and hospitals are dying for work for the money, they'll do anything for a buck, especially where we live. PM me if you like.


    Yes, but if you live in NY or the Island and you're not attractive you're automatically an untouchable in the gay community. Not having abs is naughty and being fat is just a sin to the shallow.


    1) Why would you want to date, or care what some shallow pathetic loser thinks? My date (Not my BF just yet) is slightly chubby but such a sweetheart, I don't give a shit about abs.

    2) Not the gay community, come on. There are a lot of open minded gay men and shallow straight people, so, stop.


    +1
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    Apr 06, 2014 2:58 AM GMT
    I have to agree with the others here, but I don't want to be nasty about it.

    At 5' 9"/220 lbs, and judging from your pics, you're at most 50-60 lbs overweight. You're also only 23 years old. You're fat, not obese, let alone morbidly so. My understanding is that these surgeries are reserved for those at least 100 lbs overweight and in otherwise poor health. It's meant as a last resort for the desperate, That's just not you, no matter how bad you feel about yourself.

    I can't believe an attractive guy your age would want to have such an invasive procedure which, by the way, will really restrict your ability to grow normally in other ways. Forget about building some real muscle if you do this-- you won't be able to eat enough for that, my friend. You may get thin, but you'll be a flabby mess.

    So change your lifestyle, fitness routine and develop more self-discipline. Lots of other guys on RJ and elsewhere have overcome far more than you without taking such radical steps.
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    Apr 06, 2014 3:15 AM GMT
    From what you stated, "I'm always tired (I could literally sleep all day), suffer from depression, and have no energy/ambition." This is a bigger issue than just your weight. I know there's stigma and a general shame type of feeling when it comes to mental health issues, but a lot of times smoking, alcoholism, obesity, or other so called behavioral issues stem from a mental health disorder.

    You state that you're not motivated at this point to go to a gym regularly or control your diet...well, when you have something like depression, these modes in your brain get disrupted. motivation is the first one to go.

    I've been there, I know what it feels like to be depressed and overweight, and I would really recommend just even a consultation to see what might be going on. There's absolutely no shame -about 1 in 4 americans have a mental health issue- and I really hope you look into that.

    What I think would really benefit you (and most likely your weight issues) is to see a psychiatrist (not psychologist) to be evaluated for potential treatment. (over seeing a GI doc for a gastric bypass which is, to me, more along the lines of a bandaid to an underlying and more serious problem)
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    Apr 06, 2014 3:25 AM GMT
    You have real medical issues, but they are not your weight. Your weight is a symptom of a bigger problem.

    The depression issues, tiredness, etc., could be Depression, which is a real medical condition. Or, you could have a hormone deficiency, which is a real medical condition. It seems like this stuff should be addressed first.

    Tumors? On a gland, tumors cause bad stuff to happen. Parasites? Can mess with tons of systems in your body. Insulin sensitivity? Get a full medical workup.

    This lap band should be your last resort once everything else is ruled out.
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    Apr 06, 2014 4:27 AM GMT
    swolegasm saidFrom what you stated, "I'm always tired (I could literally sleep all day), suffer from depression, and have no energy/ambition." This is a bigger issue than just your weight. I know there's stigma and a general shame type of feeling when it comes to mental health issues, but a lot of times smoking, alcoholism, obesity, or other so called behavioral issues stem from a mental health disorder.

    You state that you're not motivated at this point to go to a gym regularly or control your diet...well, when you have something like depression, these modes in your brain get disrupted. motivation is the first one to go.

    I've been there, I know what it feels like to be depressed and overweight, and I would really recommend just even a consultation to see what might be going on. There's absolutely no shame -about 1 in 4 americans have a mental health issue- and I really hope you look into that.

    What I think would really benefit you (and most likely your weight issues) is to see a psychiatrist (not psychologist) to be evaluated for potential treatment. (over seeing a GI doc for a gastric bypass which is, to me, more along the lines of a bandaid to an underlying and more serious problem)


    I do see a psychiatrist, and I'm on 2 antidepressants. I still don't feel much better, and I've been on them for a while.
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    Apr 06, 2014 6:48 AM GMT
    ant811 saidNext week, I'll have a consultation with a doctor to discuss lap band surgery.

    I'm not morbidly obese. But I guess you could call me fat. At 5'9" I'm about 220 pounds, which is a lot more than I should be. I've lost weight before, only to gain it right back.

    At my size/level of fitness, I find it extremely hard to exercise and workout on a regular basis. I do think I'm in decent shape for someone my size, but in no means can I stick to an exercise program being this heavy. I need something to curb my appetite, help me drop a few pounds, and get me motivated enough to get into a gym regularly and control my diet for good.

    I've tried every diet/exercise program you could imagine, with minimal or no results. At age 23, I feel like I'm 63. I'm always tired (I could literally sleep all day), suffer from depression, and have no energy/ambition.

    I think it's time to try something different. Considering this isn't a very invasive surgery, I think it's my best option.

    Any opinions? Know anyone who has the lap band?


    Well, I am 60 and also 5'9" at 220 and I don't see myself as fat. I'm a moose, but not really fat. I exercise pretty extreme, and in the gym EVERY day without fail, but don't behave at the table as well as I should.

    Still though, age 60 and above can feel pretty good.

    IMO, I don't see why you would need lapband. Just a gym membership and use it. Get to a point where you're addicted to the endorphin buzz and feel guilty as hell if you don't make to the gym. If I can do it at my age, you can do it. Even if you don't lose weight, reposition it a bit.
  • varo13

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    Apr 06, 2014 2:07 PM GMT
    You need to talk to you psychiatrist. You should not make any major medical decisions while going through a cycle of depression.

    Also consider most anti depressants cause weight gain. Investigate with your doctor if yours do and how much they may contribute... your doctor can help find ones that minimize this side effect.

    You say your meds aren't working, there are other avenues open to people with depression other than just meds. Ask your doc.

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    Apr 06, 2014 3:39 PM GMT
    LJay said
    Were you to invest half the cost of the surgery in a reputable personal trainer and a nutritionist, you could come out ahead. A few sessions with a good behavioral therapist could also be a good investment.
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    Insurance won't pay for a personal trainer, and they are really expensive around here.

    I will re-consider the surgery, but I really have a hard time imagining myself losing this 50-60 pounds and keeping it off long-term.
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    Apr 06, 2014 3:42 PM GMT
    i don't think you will qualify for the surgery.

    it's a last resort for obese people. and you don't look obese. at all.

    your doctor will probably just advise you to eat clean and exercise, so it's a waste of time to even go to the consultation.
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    Apr 06, 2014 5:42 PM GMT
    I'm inclined to agree with those that suggested weight may not be the root of your problem. You say the surgery is a last resort, and that is precisely what it should be. But have you truly explored all other alternatives?

    I am not a medical doctor, nor do I play one on TV, but I would take seriously the suggestion to have your thyroid checked. If you are hypothyroid, you will find it difficult to lose weight no matter what you do. Wouldn't it be great if you could take thyroid hormone rather than antidepressants?
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    Apr 06, 2014 8:50 PM GMT
    ant811 said
    LJay said
    Were you to invest half the cost of the surgery in a reputable personal trainer and a nutritionist, you could come out ahead. A few sessions with a good behavioral therapist could also be a good investment.
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    Insurance won't pay for a personal trainer, and they are really expensive around here.

    I will re-consider the surgery, but I really have a hard time imagining myself losing this 50-60 pounds and keeping it off long-term.


    Oh boy do I understand that! I lost 40 lb last year doing at least 10 hours per week of cardio and then when I slowed down it came right back.

    A good endorphin buzz is a good cure to just about anything and will certainly brighten your day. Seriously, no matter how rotten the day, after the first 10 or 15 minutes on the weights, I'm as good as new (sorta).

    Get to the gym and just hook up with someone as a workout partner. I met my workout partner at the gym. He became my car hangout buddy and one of my two best buddies .... this guy is 19 and my other one is 80 .... go figure! The discipline helps too when it comes to getting off of RJ and getting out of here. Who ever leaves for the gym first texts the other 'itc omw' (in the car, on my way).

    It's way cheaper than a shrink and you'll look better and feel better. Creative excuses are great, but better yet is doing something about it. And don't just "imagine", do something!!!!!