Obese gastric bypass patients become COMPETITIVE BODYBUILDERS

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 06, 2014 1:32 AM GMT
    Is it wrong for me to find these guys so hot given what they had to go through to get where they are?

    Each were morbidly obese, many had gastric bypass, and most lost HUNDREDS of pounds and underwent painful skin reduction surgery involving hundreds of stitches encircling their waists. Then the REAL work began when, just a few years later, both became tight-waisted competitive bodybuilders. NEITHER were bodybuilders or weightlifters before; both had ZERO muscle memory.

    From http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/coryjensen/ (his "befores" were AFTER the bulk of his weight loss and skin tightening surgery):
    30sw085.jpg
    2pz05sz.jpg
    2cx82sy.jpg
    ev7td1.jpg
    110hao2.jpg
    2zsd9bn.jpg

    From http://www.theweightstopsnow.com/transformation.htm:
    24q5uyq.jpg
    33augyg.jpg
    1o8ww8.jpg
    2qibke8.jpg
    281sw9t.jpg
    2hxt4sg.jpg
    fbw805.jpg
    5xobki.jpg

    It's hard to make excuses after viewing these two dudes. Post YOUR inspiring obese-to-bodybuilder transformations here!

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 06, 2014 2:51 AM GMT
    I can't find a "before" pic. But Kerry Lind used to be overweight. Probably more than those guys above. And here he is now..


    xy3jAxH.jpg
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 06, 2014 2:18 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidThe second guy on the OP looks "enhanced."

    Not like there's anything wrong with that but that razor sharp skin makes me think so.


    I'd say all three look juiced. The first one, according to the OP link, is back to 10% body fat and doesn't look anything like in the competition shots (looks better to me, but that's just an opinion).

    Having been there myself (I was obese all through my teenage years), I'd certainly say it was all worth it - for me, and probably for them, too.
  • Bunjamon

    Posts: 3161

    Apr 06, 2014 2:22 PM GMT
    I can't believe that they were considered candidates for gastric bypass in the first place. They were hardly "morbidly obese" when they started and could have benefitted from simple diet and exercise (at least, it appears that they could have).
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 06, 2014 7:04 PM GMT
    Bunjamon saidI can't believe that they were considered candidates for gastric bypass in the first place. They were hardly "morbidly obese" when they started and could have benefitted from simple diet and exercise (at least, it appears that they could have).

    There's no real "before" picture of the first guy so I can't comment, but I found the second guy's story interesting in that while he was always fat and always harbored the desire to become a competitive bodybuilder (his website reveals several "before" photos of him mock-flexing with jacked co-workers), he says in a video testimonial for the surgeon that for him gastric bypass was the right choice (presumably because he didn't have the discipline to then diet and/or exercise), and only made the choice to become a bodybuilder and adopt that discipline two years after surgery when it seemed feasible.

    Personally I think of gastric bypass as the HARD way out - coupled with skin reduction, it's practically heroic. I'd certainly prefer to diet (as I did, losing 80 pounds). But just as people got fat sucking milkshakes through straws when they had their jaws wired shut, they can eventually enlarge their stomach capacities through overeating and get fat again (I call it "The Carnie Wilson Affect"). And even if they don't regain the weight, they need more discpline than dieting to lose the weight in the first place because they have to stick to tiny portions resisting milkshakes, and carefully supplement given the minimal nutrients they get from their reduced food portions, for life.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 06, 2014 7:12 PM GMT
    A couple of you guys mentioned juicing. Though I wouldn't juice personally at the risk of being flamed I have to admit that if another guy does it properly and smartly I find that hot as well.

    The second to last photo of the first guy shows clear signs of gynecomastia from steroid use. Perhaps they both use. I've grown non-judgmental about steroids because like bypass, steroids require more discipline because while they're a shortcut to retaining lean mass while dropping fat they enable you to train harder, meaning even more work. Plus if they use wisely they minimize their health risk. I'd only take exception competing against a user or former user in a "natural" event. As a taxpayer I don't care because the overall health care and societal costs relative to far more widespread lifestyle choices like obesity, smoking and drinking are negligible.
  • kent_dc

    Posts: 16

    Apr 06, 2014 8:26 PM GMT
    I find these stories inspirational - these guys had a dream and achieved it and more! Gives me hope...
  • rdberg1957

    Posts: 662

    Apr 06, 2014 8:39 PM GMT
    I had a gastric bypass in 2008. I went from 348-216lbs. Currently I am at 240, play tennis and racquetball 3x/week and do some weights. I am 56. My life is way better since the gastric bypass six years ago--I don't intent to become a body builder, but I still want to get better at tennis.
  • PolitiMAC

    Posts: 728

    Apr 06, 2014 8:46 PM GMT
    My 'excuse' is that it's useless and a waste of my time icon_wink.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 19, 2014 2:37 AM GMT
    Banged my head and now I have mild whiplash - still cleared to train (carefully) but I'm losing my mojo given the pain so I'm trawling the net for inspiration again.

    Here's a bit of fresh motivation, and a decade older than the two previous - I don't think he's had gastric bypass but that's definitely a skin reduction scar encircling his waist above the posing trunk line. He's still trying to raise money to complete a documentary on his inspiring transformation, which is allegedly out soon:

    142ef0w.jpg

    122kg7d.jpg

    2v10n07.jpg

    21ou81j.jpg

    k9w4cy.jpg


  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 21, 2014 3:10 PM GMT
    Mhmm.. interesting thought indeed, some of them are really good shaped afterwards. but is it using with pills to achieve this result??
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 22, 2014 11:05 PM GMT
    They must have had surgery to remove excess skin. I wouldn't think it would be possible to get that ripped in the waistline without it. Dunno.
  • CSPYNY

    Posts: 187

    Apr 23, 2014 12:59 AM GMT
    OneEightZero saidThey must have had surgery to remove excess skin. I wouldn't think it would be possible to get that ripped in the waistline without it. Dunno.


    Yup - they all had the excess skin removed
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 03, 2014 5:57 AM GMT
    For those that like their men more on the bearish side, here's a luscious specimen from that side of the bear spectrum that never seem to initiate contact - a year out from his first bodybuilding contest. This 27year old “Biggest Loser” contestant started the show at 426lbs and ended, after skin reduction surgery, at 242lbs. Terrified of regaining the weight like most contestants after the show ended, he continued his regime when he was spotted by two bodybuilders who told him to do less lifting and cardio and eat more, MUCH more - 5,000 "clean" calories per day. Two years later? He went from a size 38 waist at 242lbs to a 34 waist at 255lbs:

    1059o38.jpg

    skxk7t.jpg

    szgc5g.jpg

    2cysjg5.jpg

    10xssxu.jpg

    5b8nrq.jpg

    fcs011.jpg

    34xkd53.jpg

    qozx3t.jpg

    vywsjb.jpg

    2ugiee9.jpg

    16m57ch.jpg

    As for me - my neck is much better and I'm training harder, just now reincorporating cardio so things should get interesting in the next few months.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 03, 2014 7:11 PM GMT
    If these guys had gastric bypass, then where are the surgical scars?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 03, 2014 8:19 PM GMT
    Erik101 saidIf these guys had gastric bypass, then where are the surgical scars?

    Here's the first guy "in transition" without the Protan, which tends to hide obvious scars:

    35n6ntu.jpg

    For him and everyone else, look close, midway between the yellow lines and the "poser" line.

    Pro-tan tends to cover them up, they're obvious on the last guy:

    hvx7w0.jpg

    awc36f.jpg

    9v838i.jpg

    bfjs5x.jpg

    All married to women except for maybe the first. What a waste.
  • Bowyn_Aerrow

    Posts: 357

    Nov 03, 2014 11:03 PM GMT
    For me to gain a pound takes an act of congress and a ton of food. And no matter how much lifting I did back in the day gaining muscle mass required yet one more act of congress.

    These guys appear to be able to heap on mass of both kinds with relative ease. I guess there is a correlation between being able to put on mass of any type. (fat or muscle)

  • MikemikeMike

    Posts: 6932

    Nov 04, 2014 4:31 PM GMT
    For many it's hello roids goodbye hairicon_lol.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 06, 2014 5:17 PM GMT
    Bunjamon saidI can't believe that they were considered candidates for gastric bypass in the first place. They were hardly "morbidly obese" when they started and could have benefitted from simple diet and exercise (at least, it appears that they could have).


    +1.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2014 6:05 PM GMT
    hairyandym said
    Bunjamon saidI can't believe that they were considered candidates for gastric bypass in the first place. They were hardly "morbidly obese" when they started and could have benefitted from simple diet and exercise (at least, it appears that they could have).


    +1.

    Agreed, but consider that it's easy for people like you and me (I lost 80lbs in 5 months winding up with a killer bod through diet and exercise alone) to put people down for going the surgical route, but the fact is that some people need that crutch and of those, the ones that become competitive bodybuilders only do so post-surgery once they lose the weight, gain confidence and realize what's possible.

    Like (again) this cop, who at 330lbs and at 52% bodyfat opted for bariatric surgery and only two years afterwards with no bodybuilding background or muscle memory began focusing on realizing his lifelong fantasy of being a competitive bodybuilder, ultimately within the next two years competing and winning NPC titles at 183lbs at 5%:

    xpsxax.jpg

    But consider also that I think that cop is the only one who had surgery other than skin tightening. If you're not impressed by people who choose bypass surgery, give credit to (again) this guy who, fat his entire life, rehabbed himself after a horrific car accident and neck injury through only diet, exercise and, obviously, "supplements:"

    awyx3l.jpg

    14segy9.png

    122kg7d.jpg

    Frankly, I think that the surgical route is far harder considering most people regain the weight ("Carnie Wilson Effect") - it's easy to suck milkshakes through a straw. And how brave must one be to have skin tightening surgery, which by all accounts is incredibly painful and difficult to recover from (as one would expect from a 360 degree incision made 'round their waists to "hike their pants up," so to speak).
  • NoFLFitGuy

    Posts: 44

    Dec 29, 2014 11:07 AM GMT
    Well, I have just been had a first evaluation for my skin reduction surgery (I want a few opinions before I choose a surgeon), but I can tell you what I was told about it.

    First off, I lost just under 200 lbs without bypass surgery 8 years ago now.

    Doing bodybuilding before the surgery changes both the type of surgery you have and the volume of skin that needs removing (for the better according to my doc). To make a long story short, I will only need approx 3-4 lbs of skin removed, no lipsuction. Recovery time - 2 weeks to light cardio, 4 weeks post to light weight training, 6 weeks post to a beginner program, 8 weeks to full recovery and starting back to a proper program again. I will have to wear compression garments, but I wear compression UA a lot, and the doc said it was somewhat tighter, but not that different, especially as I am used to compression clothing.

    The modern surgery, in addition to the drains, etc installed, they also install a sub-q pain med pump which comes out on its own after 3-4 days. My recommendation was for outpatient. But, again, bodybuilding beforehand helps a lot. For dropping 200 lbs in 9 months, the doc was AMAZED - he said it over and over - that I had so little skin, and it is thank, in part to the muscle mass that I have.

    Scaring is a BIG concern. I have found that all board certified docs with experience in the area can do an adequate medical job without serious complications. But, each doc varies on how and where the scars are placed. This is where the "art" of the surgeon comes in. A lot of them, the one I spoke with included, are more concerned with the aesthetics UNDER CLOTHES, rather than with clothes off. No one, not even my bodybuilding trainers, even think I have any excess skin, but they have not seen me without clothes on either.

    Obviously, on stage, having clothes off comes with the territory. Before I do anything, I am trying to find the best surgeon that understands my sport and its demands and can work to try to place the scars where they will have the least impact. Scars are inevitable. Where they are, is not. Some of the scars I saw looked like the persons had had autopsies and came back from the dead, others were much less pronounced. But, I know of some surgeons out there who have experience with display sports (like bodybuilding) for women, but can apply the same techniques to men to minimize the scars in the places that show.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 16, 2015 4:48 AM GMT
    I'm still very concerned about the skin thing, I've lost about 60 lbs or so in total and have about another 20 to go I think to get sub 10% and I'm already pretty wrinkly around my lower abs. Sucks, I don't think I would probably qualify for skin reduction, let alone be able to afford it. I'm wondering if there are other alternatives? I've heard the old fashioned preparation H which is no only available with the active ingredient in Canada may help??

    f790fc35b62b603287a39c04ae9b6965.jpg
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 17, 2015 2:40 AM GMT
    You're HOT GymNewbie.

    What's this about Canadian Preparation H?

    I'm cutting now (to the point where suddenly I'm garnering the type of attention and "gym celebrity" that comes from regaining "buffness") but am still anticipating loose skin problems now that - at 193 lbs - I only have about 10 to go.

    In an attempt to dodge that bullet this is what I've tried:

    - daily scrubbing of midsection, etc. with salicylic acid scrub
    - then (actually , 2-3x daily) massaging in Palmers Firming (midsection) & Palmers Stretch Mark (underarm area) lotions
    - twice weekly lap swim (I'd do more but I'd risk sinus infection)
    - less rapid weight loss

    What I HAVEN'T tried is:

    - constant hydration (that'd lead to overnight frequent urination issues)
    - fish oil (NOW they say that the CAPSULE form isn't nutritive) or more fish in my diet
    - Coolsculpting (someone told me that expensive repetitive procedure shrink wraps the skin but I think it just permanently destroys more fat underneath the skin possibly making it looser, I'm not sure)
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 17, 2015 3:37 AM GMT
    So the thing I heard (all hearsay) is that Prep H can help tighten skin, I've heard of BB'ers using it and contestants for pagents, but that makes me think it's a temporary thing they use before they go on stage? not really a good solution?

    Anyway apparently the ingredient "Bio-Dyne" that really works is not approved here in the states anymore, but it still is in Canada, so you have to get the kind with it.

    But if it's only temporary and smells to high heaven, I don't think I would consider it.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 13, 2015 3:50 AM GMT
    So I'm at the tail end of a "cut" finally losing prednisone weight (220 to 183), with abs showing (somewhat) and no loose skin (so far), still seeking online inspiration/motivation.

    And stumbled upon this interesting specimen, a guy from "Extreme Weight Loss" Season 3 who's EXACTLY my age (his website: http://pickthepounds.com).

    But he makes me feel like an otter to his bear.

    Here he is in 1988:
    qx3ocj.jpg

    Here I am (the pale one) in 1988:
    jijmnr.jpg

    Him in 2013 onward (417 to 197 lbs):
    11ha2xy.jpg

    10d5heh.jpg

    Me in 2015 (186 lbs):
    t7lx79.jpg

    Were we separated at birth?