Canada has decided to stop skinning seals ALIVE!!!!...not really tho, it's all PR!

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    Dec 29, 2008 3:39 AM GMT
    The new regulations are basically meaningless tho, as reported.

    OMG!!!! Beware of graphic content..

    CNN embed statement doesnt work on RJ. I dont know why...so here's the link.

    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/12/28/ctv.Seal.Clubbing.ctv
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    Dec 29, 2008 3:42 PM GMT
    They skin them alive?
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    Dec 29, 2008 4:32 PM GMT
    That''s terrible!!!!!!!! Alive or Dead why skin them at all? icon_mad.gif
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    Dec 29, 2008 4:41 PM GMT
    I think I threw up a little in my mouth.


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    Dec 29, 2008 5:03 PM GMT

    A great many Canadians didn't know this was occurring, and those of us that did were called tree-huggers. It appears many of the Conservative right may think seals some from trees.

    Note: The Liberal government wasn't much better on this subject, though they DID admit to turning a blind eye back in the 60s and 70s when we were out protesting.

    This is the darker side of preserving cultural values in one respect (traditional Inuit method of 'clubbing') and the demands of certain special interest groups that declare the seal hunt to be their heritage etc.

    The Conservatives can only see the big bucks from the trade as well as a cull that allows more sea-food available to be sold to the US.

    We think a sea-food buying ban as well as seal product buying ban globally would work - please send your letters to CHINA which has a voracious appetite for the seals, especially the privates that are used in CULTURAL remedies for impotence.

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    Dec 29, 2008 5:05 PM GMT


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    Dec 30, 2008 4:56 AM GMT
    I am embarrassed when the mass inhumane slaughter of any animal occurs, in any country.

    Protesters also need to focus on how many of our farm animals are raised and slaughtered. Visit a kill floor at your local packing plant, my life has never been the same and I'm from a farming background.

    The trouble with these situations is money. To do things properly, it costs more and the general public,( including protesters), will not pay more for the end product.

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    Dec 30, 2008 5:28 AM GMT

    "To do things properly, it costs more and the general public,( including protesters)"

    ....perhaps in Alberta.
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    Dec 30, 2008 6:45 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    "To do things properly, it costs more and the general public,( including protesters)"

    ....perhaps in Alberta.


    Why the slam against Alberta and not the rest of the western world guys?
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:00 AM GMT


    Why the slam against protesters and the general public?

    "To do things properly, it costs more and the general public,( including protesters), will not pay more for the end product."

    In most places, it's a case of 'can not' rather than 'will not'. In Alberta where the economy has exploded and a Mcdonald's worker can make 18.00 per hour, it could very well be a case of 'will not'.

    The movement towards change in consumption is catching on in a big way here in BC. Many who can are paying more, or avoiding buying. As change catches on, it becomes cheaper and affordable to those that can't pay the costs right now.
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:27 AM GMT
    Meninlove,

    I'm on the same page as you gentlemen but take exception that Albertans are wealthy. Unless, you live in Fort McMurray, one doesn't earn $18/hr at fast food restaurants. Ten to twelve dollars is the norm, depending on the shift.

    It is a small segment of our population earning obscene salaries, ( namely tradesmen). The rest of us have had to see our salaries remain stagnant or with very marginal increases. Our rents and housing have doubled and tripled in just a couple of years.

    We too are are part of the "can not" group. I agree that more people need to start buying a more consciously raised end product. Change will be slow until those of us that will think outside the box convince others to do the same.

    Unfortunately those that do have the money to initiate consumer change are the environmental rapists proud to be driving their SUV's and trucks. They hardly care about environmentalism and animal rights.

    I applaud you for your good will.
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:28 AM GMT
    meninlove said

    Why the slam against protesters and the general public?

    "To do things properly, it costs more and the general public,( including protesters), will not pay more for the end product."

    In most places, it's a case of 'can not' rather than 'will not'. In Alberta where the economy has exploded and a Mcdonald's worker can make 18.00 per hour, it could very well be a case of 'will not'.

    The movement towards change in consumption is catching on in a big way here in BC. Many who can are paying more, or avoiding buying. As change catches on, it becomes cheaper and affordable to those that can't pay the costs right now.


    Nope, still can't not. They need the 18/hr to pay their share of the rent on the 1 bedroom apt they share with 5 other people.
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:34 AM GMT
    I'm disgusted... Isn't there anything else these people can do for a living? ice cones maybe?
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:43 AM GMT


    jrunner25, the incentive is, as usual, money. We posted a link to a Chinese website touting the benefits of seal sex organs. Ugh.

    With enough international pressure, the Canadian government is grudgingly realizing the world is watching. Those declaring seal-clubbing is their culture and or heritage will be in for a rude awakening when they end up hurting financially for it because no one will buy.

    This we tell everyone about most things: vote at the cash register!
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:48 AM GMT
    this is why i don't own leather (actually my flip flops are leather but also 7 years old). i will never aid in the killing animals for the sake of my own comfort.
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:52 AM GMT


    Hey26mileman, Here in 24 carat gold BC they make 8.00 an hour on average.

    Tiran, that's pretty bad! We knew there was gouging going on over there, but never thought it was that harsh!

    In typical Canadian fashion, the best most of us can do is keep buying the right way, as best we can, and gradually things'll get better. Organic range chickens used to be 20.00 to 25.00 here and now are about 10-12.00 because popularity means more competition and that results in competitive pricing.
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    Dec 30, 2008 7:56 AM GMT

    you know, jrunner25, I wouldn't be bothered by leather - it's a cast-off from the meat producing industry, so by all means wear it!
    The issue would be if they were killing cows JUST for the leather - in this case the leather's there regardless.