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    Apr 11, 2014 11:42 PM GMT
    Hello, first I do not know english very well , I am from Turkey ... I am 21 years old Muslims do not like gays here... I am ostracized by family and society, I'm in hell...What should I do? please help me...Free gay friends living in European countries, why I can not live ? Muslims torturing us here...but no one can not help us icon_sad.gif I do not want to live anymore, I want to die...
  • AMoonHawk

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    Apr 11, 2014 11:52 PM GMT
    Get a good education and leave the country
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    Apr 11, 2014 11:56 PM GMT
    The Muslim Loving PC police are on their way
    *grabs popcorn*
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    Apr 11, 2014 11:59 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidGet a good education and leave the country


    Thank you for your response...I have completed university... Have compulsory military service in Turkey I can not leave the country.. How do I apply to the European court of human rights?
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    Apr 12, 2014 12:01 AM GMT
    I say the same thing every single time when I see these threads but there are European countries who are really proud immigration, particularly countries that have had loads of people leave the country due to the free movement of people rules. Poland might be a good bet.

    Also the UK is generally very supportive when it comes to granting asylum to gay people who otherwise might be persecuted. Also if turkey wants to join Europe they will have to sign up to the European Court of Human Rights convention so things will probably get better there.
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    Apr 12, 2014 12:10 AM GMT
    HamsterCheeks saidI say the same thing every single time when I see these threads but there are European countries who are really proud immigration, particularly countries that have had loads of people leave the country due to the free movement of people rules. Poland might be a good bet.

    Also the UK is generally very supportive when it comes to granting asylum to gay people who otherwise might be persecuted. Also if turkey wants to join Europe they will have to sign up to the European Court of Human Rights convention so things will probably get better there.


    Thank you for your response ,I wish I had a good full english if I knew then I could tell you my troubles...There are many deaths in Turkey, and we're afraid of homosexuals...There are many issues that I can not tell... (( How could request asylum in America? the world can only enter one time and I want to live as a free gay...
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    Apr 12, 2014 12:22 AM GMT
    Pirantes said
    HamsterCheeks saidI say the same thing every single time when I see these threads but there are European countries who are really proud immigration, particularly countries that have had loads of people leave the country due to the free movement of people rules. Poland might be a good bet.

    Also the UK is generally very supportive when it comes to granting asylum to gay people who otherwise might be persecuted. Also if turkey wants to join Europe they will have to sign up to the European Court of Human Rights convention so things will probably get better there.


    Thank you for your response ,I wish I had a good full english if I knew then I could tell you my troubles...There are many deaths in Turkey, and we're afraid of homosexuals...There are many issues that I can not tell... (( How could request asylum in America? the world can only enter one time and I want to live as a free gay...

    I'm not American and I don't know how to apply for a visa so you are better off googling it.
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    Apr 12, 2014 12:28 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidGet a good education and leave the country

    +1
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    Apr 12, 2014 9:45 AM GMT
    HamsterCheeks said
    Pirantes said
    HamsterCheeks saidI say the same thing every single time when I see these threads but there are European countries who are really proud immigration, particularly countries that have had loads of people leave the country due to the free movement of people rules. Poland might be a good bet.

    Also the UK is generally very supportive when it comes to granting asylum to gay people who otherwise might be persecuted. Also if turkey wants to join Europe they will have to sign up to the European Court of Human Rights convention so things will probably get better there.


    Thank you for your response ,I wish I had a good full english if I knew then I could tell you my troubles...There are many deaths in Turkey, and we're afraid of homosexuals...There are many issues that I can not tell... (( How could request asylum in America? the world can only enter one time and I want to live as a free gay...

    I'm not American and I don't know how to apply for a visa so you are better off googling it.



    you're very good, thank you for your help...
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    Apr 12, 2014 11:26 AM GMT
    Keep posting and use us as your support group.
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    Apr 12, 2014 11:49 AM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidKept posting and use us as your support group.


    Excuse me, but I did not understand
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    Apr 12, 2014 11:57 AM GMT
    Pirantes said
    AMoonHawk saidGet a good education and leave the country


    Thank you for your response...I have completed university... Have compulsory military service in Turkey I can not leave the country.. How do I apply to the European court of human rights?


    How much longer do you have to serve in the military?
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    Apr 12, 2014 12:23 PM GMT
    creature said
    Pirantes said
    AMoonHawk saidGet a good education and leave the country


    Thank you for your response...I have completed university... Have compulsory military service in Turkey I can not leave the country.. How do I apply to the European court of human rights?


    How much longer do you have to serve in the military?


    12 months,and According to military law, homosexuality is a disease... and , to be exempted from military service must prove that we are gay..For this you need to show during sexual intercourse capture videos... There is consequently very poor results.. and in Turkey I can not work anywhere... 4 months later I need to start his military service.. and I've got to leave the country within four months...There are a lot of soldiers in homophobic attacks... but,Within 4 months I got the chance to leave the country
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    Apr 12, 2014 12:36 PM GMT
    Pirantes said
    creature said
    Pirantes said
    AMoonHawk saidGet a good education and leave the country


    Thank you for your response...I have completed university... Have compulsory military service in Turkey I can not leave the country.. How do I apply to the European court of human rights?


    How much longer do you have to serve in the military?


    12 months,and According to military law, homosexuality is a disease... and , to be exempted from military service must prove that we are gay..For this you need to show during sexual intercourse capture videos... There is consequently very poor results.. and in Turkey I can not work anywhere... 4 months later I need to start his military service.. and I've got to leave the country within four months...There are a lot of soldiers in homophobic attacks... but,Within 4 months I got the chance to leave the country


    Is attempting to seek asylum a viable option while serving? As others have pointed out, I think it's best to do some research on some European countries or Canada on how welcoming they are for someone in your position and what steps you need to take.

    If you can't find anything online, go to the embassy of those countries and ask them for help. Figure out what countries are an option for you, and then go to their respective embassy, and then based on several factors you can make a decision on which country is a best fit for you.
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    Apr 12, 2014 12:40 PM GMT
    Thank you very much for your response ,I will do research about canada
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    Apr 12, 2014 12:52 PM GMT
    Pirantes saidThank you very much for your response ,I will do research about canada


    Good idea. I read from other members that Canada is a good choice. Please keep us updated, and best of luck!
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    Apr 12, 2014 3:47 PM GMT
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    Pirantes saidThank you very much for your response ,I will do research about canada


    Good idea. I read from other members that Canada is a good choice. Please keep us updated, and best of luck!


    Thanks icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 13, 2014 9:52 AM GMT
    I spoke with the Canadian Consulate...The Canadian government did not accept gay asylum...I have no way of salvation from this hell...Thank you so much to everyone.
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    Apr 13, 2014 11:02 AM GMT
    The UK does accept gay asylum seekers
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    Apr 13, 2014 11:12 AM GMT
    I'll ask them tomorrow,I am 21 years old I was raped three times by homophobic people...saw violence the numerous... by family ,by society...they wanted me to marry a girl...I told them all to the government of canada... but...
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    Apr 13, 2014 3:56 PM GMT
    I don't know anything personally but googling around I found this:

    The UK Lesbian & Gay Immigration Group: "Our asylum related activities include: Supporting LGBT asylum seekers: providing support & information via our helpline and in person; referring to solicitors; organising a monthly support meeting; visiting detention centres and running other social support projects."

    You need to search for organizations that provide concealing and advocacy for people in your situation. Usually if you can find ONE, they know about others and can point you in the right direction.

    Here is a list of nonprofit organizations in the US. Whether or not any one of them could help, I have no idea. But, again, they are more likely to know what services are available and from whom than random people on the internet.

    Obviously short of a miracle, immigrating legally to a more tolerant country is a lengthy and costly process. As others have indicated, your chances are increased if you have money to go to school in a foreign county or educate yourself in a profession that is wanted in your destination country. The main thing is to stay safe, keep positive and optimistic, and keep working on the problem when ever you can.

    ETA: Her's one called the Immigration Advocates Network. The problem is that people who work in nonprofits often have more case loads than they can handle. They may be flooded with people needing help as badly or more so than you… Just saying, be prepared. You're NOT the only person seeking help. Far from it.
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    Apr 13, 2014 4:00 PM GMT
    Why Canada? Isn't it easier for you to go to Europe? Do you have European online friends? If you do, get in contact with them. But before that, prepare yourself academically.
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    Apr 13, 2014 5:34 PM GMT
    MikeW saidI don't know anything personally but googling around I found this:

    The UK Lesbian & Gay Immigration Group: "Our asylum related activities include: Supporting LGBT asylum seekers: providing support & information via our helpline and in person; referring to solicitors; organising a monthly support meeting; visiting detention centres and running other social support projects."

    You need to search for organizations that provide concealing and advocacy for people in your situation. Usually if you can find ONE, they know about others and can point you in the right direction.

    Here is a list of nonprofit organizations in the US. Whether or not any one of them could help, I have no idea. But, again, they are more likely to know what services are available and from whom than random people on the internet.

    Obviously short of a miracle, immigrating legally to a more tolerant country is a lengthy and costly process. As others have indicated, your chances are increased if you have money to go to school in a foreign county or educate yourself in a profession that is wanted in your destination country. The main thing is to stay safe, keep positive and optimistic, and keep working on the problem when ever you can.

    ETA: Her's one called the Immigration Advocates Network. The problem is that people who work in nonprofits often have more case loads than they can handle. They may be flooded with people needing help as badly or more so than you… Just saying, be prepared. You're NOT the only person seeking help. Far from it.


    Thank you for the information you have given...
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    Apr 13, 2014 5:37 PM GMT
    Xavier92 saidWhy Canada? Isn't it easier for you to go to Europe? Do you have European online friends? If you do, get in contact with them. But before that, prepare yourself academically.


    unfortunately I do not have a friend european
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    Apr 13, 2014 5:42 PM GMT
    Pirantes said
    Xavier92 saidWhy Canada? Isn't it easier for you to go to Europe? Do you have European online friends? If you do, get in contact with them. But before that, prepare yourself academically.


    unfortunately I do not have a friend european


    Pirantes, you don't have to have a European friend to to get assistance. Even though you said Canada wouldn't work, though I think it will, one website said that you should be in contact organizations that help refugees before getting in contact with the government agencies.