The Real Threat To Americans

  • swimbikerun

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    Dec 30, 2008 5:33 AM GMT
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    Dec 30, 2008 8:41 AM GMT
    If only we could get the terrorists to start smoking a lot!
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    Dec 30, 2008 8:45 AM GMT
    not that i buy the whole terrorist propaganda we are fed by the bush administration. however, correct me if im wrong but, their job is to take care of our country from the things we cant protect ourselves from. now, is it the government's fault that the vast majority eats fast food?
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    Dec 30, 2008 8:49 AM GMT

    great idea, and not tobacco - the green smelly stuff instead.

    Tomorrow's headlines:

    "Terrorists make demands to Oreo cookie manufacturer: Set up your factories in our country to prevent further atrocities!"

    "Terrorists cells discovered in hills from their excessive use of lava lamps."

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    Dec 30, 2008 9:11 AM GMT
    Um.....I think AGGRESSIVE IGNORANCE is a real threat. Oh, and not enough check out clerks at Wal-Mart and Target during rush hour...which may lead to violence?
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    Dec 30, 2008 9:13 AM GMT
    Naglfar saidUm.....I think AGGRESSIVE IGNORANCE is a real threat. Oh, and not enough check out clerks at Wal-Mart and Target during rush hour...which may lead to violence?


    LOL, amen to that!
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    Dec 30, 2008 9:34 AM GMT
    Uhhhh I don't get it. So are you saying to ignore all those who died in 9/11 cuz it rarely occurs?
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    Dec 30, 2008 10:40 AM GMT
    Swinbikerun,

    Which threat in and of itself holds more destructive value per unit? A single cigarette? A single fry? Or a single Saudi Arabian Muslim Terrorist that flies a commercial jet into a giant building in New York? Terrorism doesn't kill as many Americans yet. However terrorism will if America doesn't take action. Or are you seriously suggesting that we wait until terrorists kill 4,384,000 people to take them seriously?

    The real threat seriously is smoking, shitty food, and doctors. However these are all cases that usually can be solved by the individual: i.e. don't smoke, don't eat at McDonalds, and don't see a doctor in Los Angeles that says "it's ok if you smoke crack, all my other patients do" when you really just went to see him for something completely unrelated and you don't smoke crack (yes this happened to me).

    However deaths from TERRORISM are unpredictable to every individual and it is that complete lack of control to individually prevent something like this from happening that warrants the government to step in to take more expensive preventative measures. This is also why extra care is taken to make sure planes to not crash and kill people as often as cars do: because there is almost no control for the individual in plane crashes. Thus all measures must be taken for the individual to feel safe enough in spite of having literally no control over their fate to buy a plane ticket.

    How much money do you think is poured into planes per year? Yet still far more cigarettes kill people per year. So would you suggest we take our plane money and put it into preventing smoke related deaths?

    Anyway, I would like to point out to all the idiots who are scientologists and think psychiatrists kill people: no, it's doctors.
  • Koaa2

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    Dec 30, 2008 12:40 PM GMT
    I think global warming is the biggest threat. If the planet keeps declining at the rate it is going now, you won't have to worry about all the other important threats listed on here.

    Fear is an amazing thing. I wonder how many decisions we make about our lives based on the fear of something happening.
  • Hunter9

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    Dec 30, 2008 3:01 PM GMT
    there is no more honorable way to die, than death by cheeseburger
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    Dec 30, 2008 3:25 PM GMT
    In over 4000years men have killed each other for many different reasons. land, wealth, and religion. I don't think it will stop anytime soon. this si somethign beyond our control. Terrorism can not be stopped or cured.

    So I believe we all should concentrate on things within our control. Most of these issues brought to our attention here are within each of our own control. I.E. who will go out this week and drink and drive after celebrating? Who instead will take a cab?

    Look at the issues we can control and change. proven facts like suggested above. Change them in your life and take a step to change them in others live. Don't just be the innoccent bystander.
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    Dec 30, 2008 3:30 PM GMT
    Uhhhh I guess.... I don't know about that drunk driving thing. I know I'm guilty of it. It really is a no brainer don't drink and drive yet when faced with the decision so many of us for some reason choose to eat the cheeseburger...
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    Dec 30, 2008 3:35 PM GMT
    The proliferation of underwear threads on here has to being having some sort of deleterious affect on our health.

    Offset, no doubt, by the health-inducing effects produced by the mirth elicited by the LOLcats.
  • Timbales

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    Dec 30, 2008 3:41 PM GMT
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    Dec 30, 2008 3:43 PM GMT
    I understand your point, people are prone to irrational fears while ignoring the real threats. However, 9/11 was a wake up call to the world about the real threat of terrorism whose real goal is to destroy what it sees as the "decadent" western society. A dirty bomb or a nuclear bomb could cause untold of misery for a society far beyond the initial casualties. Hopefully it will never happen, but I don't think it will be due to lack of trying.

    I personally believe though that global warming and general environmental degradation are bigger threats to the human race over the next 100 years.

    BTW I was shocked that medical mistakes killed over 2 million people in 10 years. Is the US getting its' money's worth from the health care system?
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    Dec 30, 2008 3:50 PM GMT
    SurrealLife saidI understand your point, people are prone to irrational fears while ignoring the real threats.

    Difference between the real threats to our health and an event like 9/11 is that the real threats occur individually so are not recognized for their total impact until the statistics are gathered. An attack is immediately and emotional impactful.
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    Dec 30, 2008 3:53 PM GMT
    Wow. I just looked at that graphic. 4.4 million related to smoking? This is why I'm quitting for 2009. I'm tired of doing that to myself.

    Anyway, anyone who watches Colbert knows the number one threat to America is ....


    BEARS!!!!!



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    Dec 30, 2008 4:29 PM GMT
    swimbikerun, Smoking is a terrible thing, but your figure is not for the US.

    Last year smoking related deaths in the US came to 434,000 - not million!


    http://tobaccodocuments.org/pm/2023219568.html

    Even if you quit your chances of getting lung cancer, for example are 400 times higher than if you never smoked.

    http://www.uchc.edu/ocomm/newsarchive/news05/aug05/jennings.html
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    Dec 30, 2008 4:31 PM GMT

    Many of the smoking related deaths now are in people who quit 20-30 years ago.
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    Dec 30, 2008 4:36 PM GMT
    meninlove said swimbikerun, Smoking is a terrible thing, but your figure is not for the US.

    Last year smoking related deaths in the US came to 434,000 - not million!


    http://tobaccodocuments.org/pm/2023219568.html

    Even if you quit your chances of getting lung cancer, for example are 400 times higher than if you never smoked.

    http://www.uchc.edu/ocomm/newsarchive/news05/aug05/jennings.html


    It is a bit confusing, but the deaths in the graph are an accumulated total for 10 years.

    I was surprised not to see car accidents as a separate category on its' own. Must be over 400,000 over 10 years. In comparison plane crashes is very low in the USA. Despite those statistics plane travel plummeted after 9/11 while car travel increased! I know of people to this day who refuse to fly with a US airline due to fear of terrorism. Very strange.
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    Dec 30, 2008 10:08 PM GMT
    Quitting smoking is the single best thing you can do for your health.
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    Dec 30, 2008 10:12 PM GMT
    jakebenson said

    The real threat seriously is smoking, shitty food, and doctors. However these are all cases that usually can be solved by the individual: i.e. don't smoke, don't eat at McDonalds


    So following that logic.... Don't work in an office tower and don't fly....take the train or better yet just stay at home and live in a bubble. personal freedoms, privacy and civil liberties are the price which must be paid and I often question is it worth it



    Smoking and obesity kill mostly by cutting a few years off the lives of mostly geriatric, lower class, uneducated people. Who repeatedly ignored medical and lifestyle guidelines.

    Those planes killed 3000 young healthy individuals who did nothing but get up go to work and try and contribute to American society.
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    Dec 30, 2008 10:14 PM GMT
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    meninlove said swimbikerun, Smoking is a terrible thing, but your figure is not for the US.

    Last year smoking related deaths in the US came to 434,000 - not million!


    http://tobaccodocuments.org/pm/2023219568.html

    Even if you quit your chances of getting lung cancer, for example are 400 times higher than if you never smoked.

    http://www.uchc.edu/ocomm/newsarchive/news05/aug05/jennings.html


    It is a bit confusing, but the deaths in the graph are an accumulated total for 10 years.

    I was surprised not to see car accidents as a separate category on its' own. Must be over 400,000 over 10 years. In comparison plane crashes is very low in the USA. Despite those statistics plane travel plummeted after 9/11 while car travel increased! I know of people to this day who refuse to fly with a US airline due to fear of terrorism. Very strange.


    I've always heard that if a person quits smoking early enough, their lungs can heal (at least somewhat)?
  • swimbikerun

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    Dec 30, 2008 10:37 PM GMT
    The point I wanted to make with that graphic is that many people completely overestimate the threat of "terrorism", especially in this country.

    Take the presidential campaigns for example. Candidates blathering ad naseum about "terrorism" and fucking Giuliani, Mr. President of 9/11. Did any of them mention smoking deaths or obesity or cancer specifically as major threats to American citizens?

    All I'm pointing out is that there should be some perspective on what really is killing Americans here and now, today and tomorrow and not what could or might happen in the future.