Employment dilemna

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    Apr 14, 2014 11:48 PM GMT
    I'm not sure what to do about my job.

    My contract finishes in 2 months and it's a job in the charity sector meaning that once the job is no longer funded they won't extend my contract.

    The job is not well paid even though I've checked in the computer archives and a few years ago they had someone doing an almost identical role for 3k more per year. (they don't delete their old job descriptions with the salaries included on the document) There's no provision for over time so when I work over my contracted hours my pay doesn't reflect that. The team I work with is great but one of the directors and some of the staff there in other teams aren't always very accommodating of me (its a very middle class environment) and can be dismissive of my role for not being a key role - I know this because we had a lady in to map all the interpersonal relationships in the organisation and when my appointment to see her came up she told me she no longer needed to see me because I'm not 'key staff'.

    My job however is in the industry I did my foundation degree in which is positive.

    The dilemna is I interviewed for a position at a coffee chain (not starbucks because I refuse to work there) and they have offered me an assistant manager position. The pay is a little bit more (an extra £1.30 an hour) and its a permanent contract but the work from what I gather may be less challenging and it's nothing to do with what I studied in.

    My option is stay where I am working a stressful and under paid but quite rewarding job even though I may be on unemployment in 2 months or take the job as assistant manager in the coffee shop which offers me more security.

    What should I do?!
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    Apr 14, 2014 11:51 PM GMT
    If I took the job in the coffee chain then I will still work one more month at the charity so it's only 1 month of my contract I won't be fulfilling.
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    Apr 14, 2014 11:52 PM GMT
    Take the coffee job and continue looking for more fulfilling work.
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    Apr 14, 2014 11:55 PM GMT
    Ohno saidTake the coffee job and continue looking for more fulfilling work.


    I'm worried my current employer might put me on a list to say I didn't complete the contract so other employers might refuse to give me a job in the future.
  • MikeW

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    Apr 14, 2014 11:58 PM GMT
    Ohno saidTake the coffee job and continue looking for more fulfilling work.
    I agree, unless you can live for an undetermined time without income. Who knows what you'll find or when you'll find it.
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    Apr 14, 2014 11:58 PM GMT
    HamsterCheeks said
    Ohno saidTake the coffee job and continue looking for more fulfilling work.


    I'm worried my current employer might put me on a list to say I didn't complete the contract so other employers might refuse to give me a job in the future.
    Can you ask them? Tell them your situation and that you need to make a choice. You're willing to stay but you don't want to end up without income.
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    Apr 14, 2014 11:59 PM GMT
    HamsterCheeks said
    Ohno saidTake the coffee job and continue looking for more fulfilling work.


    I'm worried my current employer might put me on a list to say I didn't complete the contract so other employers might refuse to give me a job in the future.


    These lists do not exist, and companies know that employees have to prioritise their job security above spurious loyalty. Especially when they are low paid and living paycheque to paycheque. If they don't understand that you don't want to work there.
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    Apr 15, 2014 12:00 AM GMT
    MikeW said
    HamsterCheeks said
    Ohno saidTake the coffee job and continue looking for more fulfilling work.


    I'm worried my current employer might put me on a list to say I didn't complete the contract so other employers might refuse to give me a job in the future.
    Can you ask them? Tell them your situation and that you need to make a choice. You're willing to stay but you don't want to end up without income.


    This, except you want to have a job offer from the other company to hold under their nose.
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    Apr 15, 2014 12:04 AM GMT
    Definitely take the coffee shop job and continue looking for a better paid job. btw, happy to see you're still here Hamster. I thought you deleted yourself.
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    Apr 15, 2014 12:05 AM GMT
    Ohno said
    MikeW said
    HamsterCheeks said
    Ohno saidTake the coffee job and continue looking for more fulfilling work.


    I'm worried my current employer might put me on a list to say I didn't complete the contract so other employers might refuse to give me a job in the future.
    Can you ask them? Tell them your situation and that you need to make a choice. You're willing to stay but you don't want to end up without income.


    This, except you want to have a job offer from the other company to hold under their nose.

    I've already been told there's no chance of work after my contract because the funding organisation won't fund the same job twice and I can't really afford to be unemployed as I can barely afford to live on my current wage.
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    Apr 15, 2014 12:17 AM GMT
    Ohno saidTake the coffee job and continue looking for more fulfilling work.


    This

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    Apr 15, 2014 3:00 PM GMT
    If there is NO chance your contract will be renewed I would def take the coffee shop job then. Even tho it's not in the field you studied it could just be something temp while you continue to look for work.

    It wouldn't seem to make much sense turning down a job at the coffee chain only to know you will be outta work in 2 months with no income.
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    Apr 15, 2014 8:13 PM GMT
    Import saidIf there is NO chance your contract will be renewed I would def take the coffee shop job then. Even tho it's not in the field you studied it could just be something temp while you continue to look for work.

    It wouldn't seem to make much sense turning down a job at the coffee chain only to know you will be outta work in 2 months with no income.

    I accepted the coffee shop job and gave my notice in and the evils I got from my line manager tells me I made the right decision. It's okay for her because her job is safe and she's on 42k per year yet she fails to see why unemployment is a scary prospect. She just said well you must have known there was a chance of that when I took the job offer originally.

    Nasty cow I was barely earning more than minimum wage and I was contracted to 7 hours a day but I often worked between 8 - 13 with no over time provision and no extra breaks. I feel relieved to go now! icon_twisted.gif
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    Apr 15, 2014 8:17 PM GMT
    HamsterCheeks said
    Import saidIf there is NO chance your contract will be renewed I would def take the coffee shop job then. Even tho it's not in the field you studied it could just be something temp while you continue to look for work.

    It wouldn't seem to make much sense turning down a job at the coffee chain only to know you will be outta work in 2 months with no income.

    I accepted the coffee shop job and gave my notice in and the evils I got from my line manager tells me I made the right decision. It's okay for her because her job is safe and she's on 42k per year yet she fails to see why unemployment is a scary prospect. She just said well you must have known there was a chance of that when I took the job offer originally.

    Nasty cow I was barely earning more than minimum wage and I was contracted to 7 hours a day but I often worked between 8 - 13 with no over time provision and no extra breaks. I feel relieved to go now! icon_twisted.gif
    Good move, IMO. Good luck w/ the new job when you start it. And don't worry, it won't be a dead end. If your current people put you on some sort of 'list', you can always address that when you interview for your next employer. I work management in a small company and we hire a lot of young people, often trainees. Because we're small, we can't afford to pay high wages so we understand that our employees will likely move on when they are a bit older, more seasoned, and can command a higher wage than we can pay.
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    Apr 15, 2014 8:23 PM GMT
    MikeW said
    HamsterCheeks said
    Import saidIf there is NO chance your contract will be renewed I would def take the coffee shop job then. Even tho it's not in the field you studied it could just be something temp while you continue to look for work.

    It wouldn't seem to make much sense turning down a job at the coffee chain only to know you will be outta work in 2 months with no income.

    I accepted the coffee shop job and gave my notice in and the evils I got from my line manager tells me I made the right decision. It's okay for her because her job is safe and she's on 42k per year yet she fails to see why unemployment is a scary prospect. She just said well you must have known there was a chance of that when I took the job offer originally.

    Nasty cow I was barely earning more than minimum wage and I was contracted to 7 hours a day but I often worked between 8 - 13 with no over time provision and no extra breaks. I feel relieved to go now! icon_twisted.gif
    Good move, IMO. Good luck w/ the new job when you start it. And don't worry, it won't be a dead end. If your current people put you on some sort of 'list', you can always address that when you interview for your next employer. I work management in a small company and we hire a lot of young people, often trainees. Because we're small, we can't afford to pay high wages so we understand that our employees will likely move on when they are a bit older, more seasoned, and can command a higher wage than we can pay.


    Where I am working the senior managers are always awarding themselves pay rises though for carrying extra work but then they just delegate it all out to the lowest paid staff members who see no rise in their pay at all. It's ironic because our mission aims include social mobility, social justice and a redistribution of wealth icon_razz.gif
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    Apr 15, 2014 8:29 PM GMT
    Hammie---the word is "dilemma", not "dilemna".
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    Apr 15, 2014 8:31 PM GMT
    Sharkadelic saidHammie---the word is "dilemma", not "dilemna".


    I get confused by the spelling because at school I was taught dilemna but now my spell checker says dilemma but it looks wrong go me lol
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    Apr 15, 2014 8:32 PM GMT
    HamsterCheeks said
    Sharkadelic saidHammie---the word is "dilemma", not "dilemna".


    I get confused by the spelling because at school I was taught dilemna but now my spell checker says dilemma but it looks wrong go me lol

    They taught you incorrectly at school. "Dilemma" is correct.
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    Apr 16, 2014 1:54 PM GMT
    HamsterCheeks said
    Import saidIf there is NO chance your contract will be renewed I would def take the coffee shop job then. Even tho it's not in the field you studied it could just be something temp while you continue to look for work.

    It wouldn't seem to make much sense turning down a job at the coffee chain only to know you will be outta work in 2 months with no income.

    I accepted the coffee shop job and gave my notice in and the evils I got from my line manager tells me I made the right decision. It's okay for her because her job is safe and she's on 42k per year yet she fails to see why unemployment is a scary prospect. She just said well you must have known there was a chance of that when I took the job offer originally.

    Nasty cow I was barely earning more than minimum wage and I was contracted to 7 hours a day but I often worked between 8 - 13 with no over time provision and no extra breaks. I feel relieved to go now! icon_twisted.gif


    atta boy. good call, man.
    Yeah that bitch didnt appreciate you going above and beyond the call of duty. Fuck her and her attitude. you're better off now. At least u can add this to your CV and maybe get a reference out of it.
  • bro4bro

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    Apr 16, 2014 7:46 PM GMT
    From Wikipedia:

    "The errant spelling dilemna is often seen in common usage. It appears to have been taught in many areas of the United States and all over the world, including (but not limited to) France, England, Jamaica and Australia. There is no prima facie reason for this substitution error and there is no erroneous parallel to be found with the word lemma, from which dilemma derives."
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    Apr 16, 2014 7:56 PM GMT
    Import said
    HamsterCheeks said
    Import saidIf there is NO chance your contract will be renewed I would def take the coffee shop job then. Even tho it's not in the field you studied it could just be something temp while you continue to look for work.

    It wouldn't seem to make much sense turning down a job at the coffee chain only to know you will be outta work in 2 months with no income.

    I accepted the coffee shop job and gave my notice in and the evils I got from my line manager tells me I made the right decision. It's okay for her because her job is safe and she's on 42k per year yet she fails to see why unemployment is a scary prospect. She just said well you must have known there was a chance of that when I took the job offer originally.

    Nasty cow I was barely earning more than minimum wage and I was contracted to 7 hours a day but I often worked between 8 - 13 with no over time provision and no extra breaks. I feel relieved to go now! icon_twisted.gif


    atta boy. good call, man.
    Yeah that bitch didnt appreciate you going above and beyond the call of duty. Fuck her and her attitude. you're better off now. At least u can add this to your CV and maybe get a reference out of it.


    Cheers icon_biggrin.gif

    The work I often did through the night wasn't even related to my work place it was often to do with her school governor position she would record the meetings and then get me to write the minutes and circulate the agendas/create and distribute a school governors email bulletin etc. I had to do it though because she would remind me she was going to be giving me a reference and my appraisals etc.

    This next 4 weeks cannot fly by quick enough!
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    Apr 16, 2014 9:08 PM GMT
    She is highly likely to give you a good reference still, especially if you subtly remind her of all the extracurricular work you did for her (which all sounded a bit nuts to me). If she is crazy enough to still give you a bad reference for leaving them in the lurch or whatever, a good hiring manager will see straight through it. Just in case, make sure that your new manager knows the contract was about to end.
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    Apr 16, 2014 9:11 PM GMT
    Well costa coffee didn't even ask for a reference they just gave me the job straight up so hopefully it won't affect things too much.
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    Apr 16, 2014 11:37 PM GMT
    HamsterCheeks saidWell costa coffee didn't even ask for a reference they just gave me the job straight up so hopefully it won't affect things too much.

    and keep looking for your next position.