ORAL SEX CAN LEAD TO HIV TRANSMISSION

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    Apr 16, 2014 3:08 AM GMT
    http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/insite?page=pr-rr-05

    If this discussion is accurate then HIV is possible through oral sex alone. What's really frighting is that even if there's no ejaculation the pre cum by itself is enough to infect you with HIV.
    Even though the odds are low they are still comparably high. You have a better chance of catching HIV through oral then you do of winning the lottery.
    5% is still high.

    Aside from the article here's a story how a person caught it from just giving oral sex

    http://nogoingback-thereisonlyforward.blogspot.ca/2011/12/he-gave-me-more-than-bracelet-he-gave.html

    Plus here's a study documenting people who actually got HIV through Oral Sex

    http://www.hawaii.edu/hivandaids/Oral_HIV_Transmission.pdf
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    Apr 16, 2014 3:10 AM GMT
    Well, good thing I'm not a fucking slut.
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    Apr 16, 2014 3:19 AM GMT
    TC: So we will say that fellatio without ejaculation can happen but it is exceedingly rare. It's not "no risk" but it's relatively low risk.

    FH: I would say extremely low risk.

    TC: Extremely low risk, okay.

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    DO: I've been following cohorts for 20 years and I still have yet to see what I think is really a documented case [of oral transmission of HIV].

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    JK: I think we agree it's less than 5%, don't we?

    SB: Uh,.... yes, I'd probably say it's--it may be less than 5%. I'd say 5% or less. But I wouldn't say 1% either.

    JK: Well, 1% is less than 5%...(laughter)

    KS: Well, I wouldn't say "5% or less"

    SB: So I don't know that we're going to come to consensus on that.

    TC: So we won't have agreement on that one.
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    Apr 16, 2014 3:26 AM GMT
    owl_bundy saidwhere's that thread where posters were debating about how they can't get hiv from giving head and swallowing semen? icon_lol.gif that shit had me rolling. like... where's the logic?

    folks think they can't get hiv from sucking dick bonedry and swallowing jizzy juice but wanna strap up when taking dicks up their ass. HUH?


    ikr. It's just sooo obvious. What's the difference between the butt and the mouth? lol
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    Apr 16, 2014 3:29 AM GMT
    owl_bundy saidwhere's that thread where posters were debating about how they can't get hiv from giving head and swallowing semen? icon_lol.gif that shit had me rolling. like... where's the logic?

    folks think they can't get hiv from sucking dick bonedry and swallowing jizzy juice but wanna strap up when taking dicks up their ass. HUH?


    I didn't think there were people who actually think that.icon_neutral.gif
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    Apr 16, 2014 3:35 AM GMT
    Genko said
    owl_bundy saidwhere's that thread where posters were debating about how they can't get hiv from giving head and swallowing semen? icon_lol.gif that shit had me rolling. like... where's the logic?

    folks think they can't get hiv from sucking dick bonedry and swallowing jizzy juice but wanna strap up when taking dicks up their ass. HUH?


    I didn't think there were people who actually think that.icon_neutral.gif


    There are. I was called stupid for telling someone that you can infact get HIV from oral sex. Also HPV is an issue.
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    Apr 16, 2014 3:42 AM GMT
    Any of you 30 year old virgins ever ask yourself why the rest off us aren't dead from all the dick we've sucked?


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    Apr 16, 2014 3:43 AM GMT
    "ORAL SEX CAN LEAD TO HIV TRANSMISSION"


    I thought that this was already common knowledge?
  • Webster666

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    Apr 16, 2014 3:46 AM GMT
    I've sucked and swallowed a hell of a lot of dicks, and I'm still HIV NEGATIVE.
    So, I think that "discussion" is bull shit.
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    Apr 16, 2014 3:47 AM GMT
    dustin_K_tx saidAny of you 30 year old virgins ever ask yourself why the rest off us aren't dead from all the dick we've sucked?

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    TOTLLY ^^^^

    Jesus christ guys, the OP did not link to the discussion figuring everyone would be too lazy to copy and past the URL and actually READ what they're saying.

    Example (re geting HIV from sucking dick without receiving ejaculate):

    Jeffrey D. Klausner, MD, MPH: Perhaps we could get fellatio without ejaculation off the table and agree that's an extremely low risk exposure activity?

    TC: Well, let's hear about that. Would everyone agree with that? Or, would there be anyone who disagrees with that?

    Susan P. Buchbinder, MD: I think when we're talking about risk, we have to talk first about whether transmission has been reported to occur by that route and second, how frequently it occurs. What I would say about receptive fellatio without ejaculation is that there are case reports that it has occurred, but that it is exceedingly rare, and so the risk is very low for that type of exposure. That would be my opinion. I would say it does occur but very rarely and it is very low risk.

    TC: Others?

    Frederick M. Hecht, MD: Certainly in our Options study and other studies, there are clear reports of transmission through anal sex where there is not ejaculation, so I think pre-ejaculate is potentially contagious. So that suggests that if oral sex transmission occurs, it potentially could happen without ejaculation. Having said that, though, while biologically plausible, I think it would be very unlikely. The data that's out there suggests that it is very low risk but I think there's not really good data to quantitate that. We have one report in the Options Project, one oral transmission case in which it's unclear whether there was ejaculation. It's possibly without ejaculation and I'm a little skeptical because of the exact way the report was made whether that's true. But otherwise, all the cases in which we suspect oral sex transmission included ejaculation. Our data again has a lot of limitations. We're not seeing cases, with one possible exception, that it can be a route of transmission.

    TC: So we will say that fellatio without ejaculation can happen but it is exceedingly rare. It's not "no risk" but it's relatively low risk.

    FH: I would say extremely low risk.

    TC: Extremely low risk, okay.


    That's right, not NO risk, but extremely LOW risk.

  • MikeW

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    Apr 16, 2014 3:51 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidI've sucked and swallowed a hell of a lot of dicks, and I'm still HIV NEGATIVE.
    So, I think that "discussion" is bull shit.
    I had an HIV+ partner for several years and yes I swallowed and I remain negative.

    HOWEVER I did NOT let him cum in my mouth if I had open sores OR if his viral load was significantly high. IF YOU HAVE OPEN SORES IN YOUR MOUTH AND/OR YOU DO NOT KNOW THE HIV STATUS OR VIRAL LOAD OF YOUR PARTNER, YOU SHOULD NOT BE TAKING CUM IN YOUR MOUTH.
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    Apr 16, 2014 3:52 AM GMT
    MikeW said...
    That's right, not NO risk, but extremely LOW risk.


    --The reason why your dentist tells you not to suck on anything after he's pulled your wisdom tooth.
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    Apr 16, 2014 3:53 AM GMT
    owl_bundy saiddoes it really matter though? i damn sure wouldn't try to find out IF it's possible or not. doubt that any of you guys would either to see if that it's true or not.
    For you, no it does not matter because you never go out of your house. For other guys, yes, it does matter.

    The OP said "You have a better chance of catching HIV through oral then you do of winning the lottery."…. which is a total bullshit statement. You have more chance of getting struck by lightening while setting at home in your basement than you do winning the lottery OR getting HIV from sucking cock. OK?
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    Apr 16, 2014 3:55 AM GMT
    canadian_stud saidhttp://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/insite?page=pr-rr-05

    If this discussion is accurate then HIV is possible through oral sex alone. What's really frighting is that even if there's no ejaculation the pre cum by itself is enough to infect you with HIV.
    Even though the odds are low they are still comparably high. You have a better chance of catching HIV through oral then you do of winning the lottery.
    5% is still high.



    I don't like HIV science.... Anyways, I was actually going to write about other viral diseases soon, but let me say that simple oral sex is enough to transmit things and skin to skin contact as well. And I believe with the transmission of syphilis, 1 in 5 is transmitted by oral sex.
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    Apr 16, 2014 3:59 AM GMT
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    canadian_stud saidhttp://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/insite?page=pr-rr-05

    If this discussion is accurate then HIV is possible through oral sex alone. What's really frighting is that even if there's no ejaculation the pre cum by itself is enough to infect you with HIV.
    Even though the odds are low they are still comparably high. You have a better chance of catching HIV through oral then you do of winning the lottery.
    5% is still high.



    I don't like HIV science.... Anyways, I was actually going to write about other viral diseases soon, but let me say that simple oral sex is enough to transmit things and skin to skin contact as well. And I believe with the transmission of syphilis, 1 in 5 is transmitted by oral sex.


    And one of the CDC charts I referenced makes it a low possibility to get HIV via oral sex. Then again I find HIV as a viral agent, suspect... But the narrative of "safe-sex" is a lie and that simple condom use will protect you from a lot of things is a lie as well.
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    Apr 16, 2014 4:01 AM GMT
    MikeW saidIF YOU HAVE OPEN SORES IN YOUR MOUTH AND/OR YOU DO NOT KNOW THE HIV STATUS OR VIRAL LOAD OF YOUR PARTNER, YOU SHOULD NOT BE TAKING CUM IN YOUR MOUTH.


    Yeah this. Just don't let it have direct access to your bloodstream or other body fluids besides saliva.
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    Apr 16, 2014 4:04 AM GMT
    owl_bundy said
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    owl_bundy saiddoes it really matter though? i damn sure wouldn't try to find out IF it's possible or not. doubt that any of you guys would either to see if that it's true or not.
    For you, no it does not matter because you never go out of your house. For other guys, yes, it does matter.

    The OP said "You have a better chance of catching HIV through oral then you do of winning the lottery."…. which is a total bullshit statement. You have more chance of getting struck by lightening while setting at home in your basement than you do winning the lottery OR getting HIV from sucking cock. OK?


    i actually do. icon_neutral.gif

    and to tell you the truth, don't see how someone wouldn't paranoid about catching something with how reckless guys are nowadays where they simply don't give a shit about their own health and could care less if the next guy gets sick. folks don't say "i dunno my status", they lie because they want some ass. that alone has me going like "okay...fuck all that hookup shit". worst off, we have people having unprotected sex with strangers. it's like not like the hiv rate among gay men has lowered either. it's still high as fuck.
    Well, OB, I'm glad to hear you go out of your house now and then. Fact is, though, you do NOT interact sexually with others. Meanwhile there is a whole world of people who DO have sex with one another. AND not all of us are HIV+ AND many of us who are negative intend to stay that way. Following the "wrap it up" rule has worked. It is NOT 100% effective! But the risks are reduced significantly. SO… One has to choose how one is going to live one's life. Hopefully if one is engaging in sexual activity, one practices "safer" sex. One can also choose to remain celibate. That is an option. At least it is for some. THAT *is* 100% safe. (But not very satisfying icon_neutral.gif )
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    Apr 16, 2014 4:04 AM GMT
    I like how a lot of twats from this site think that not being a virgin makes you the wisest person ever. icon_rolleyes.gif Dickheads.
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    Apr 16, 2014 4:05 AM GMT
    MikeW said
    The OP said "You have a better chance of catching HIV through oral then you do of winning the lottery."…. which is a total bullshit statement. You have more chance of getting struck by lightening while setting at home in your basement than you do winning the lottery OR getting HIV from sucking cock. OK?


    Actually your chance of getting Hepatitis is a hundred times higher

    and that is from the McDonald's drive thru.

    but what ever you have to tell yourself as to keep your virtuous chastity is fine with me--no regrets; none here.
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    Apr 16, 2014 4:07 AM GMT
    Unnamed5 said I was actually going to write about other viral diseases soon...
    I don't want to hear what you were going to do or may do someday (but never ever do). Either do it or STFU.
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    Apr 16, 2014 4:11 AM GMT
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    Apr 16, 2014 4:13 AM GMT
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    owl_bundy saidwhere's that thread where posters were debating about how they can't get hiv from giving head and swallowing semen? icon_lol.gif that shit had me rolling. like... where's the logic?

    folks think they can't get hiv from sucking dick bonedry and swallowing jizzy juice but wanna strap up when taking dicks up their ass. HUH?


    ikr. It's just sooo obvious. What's the difference between the butt and the mouth? lol


    If you knew anything about HIV transmission you'd know there is a LOT of difference. People rarely suck dick with open cuts in their mouths but anal tissue rips very easily during intercourse. Plus the acids in saliva kill HIV almost instantly, not to mention the presence of air also kills it. None of these factors are present inside the ass. In fact, it's actually safer to swallow cum than it is to spit it out because spitting it out involves it being in the mouth longer. You can suck 1000 dicks but you're not going to catch HIV from doing it unless you're really really really stupid. And by "stupid" I mean like maybe gargling with crushed glass beforehand.
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    Apr 16, 2014 4:17 AM GMT
    I think he was being sarcastic, scruff.
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    Apr 16, 2014 4:18 AM GMT
    Sweetooth saidI think he was being sarcastic, scruff.


    I don't think so.
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    Apr 16, 2014 4:18 AM GMT
    HPV leading to oral cancer is a bigger concern IMO. I mean don't get me wrong I love a guy that loves to bob his head and swallow... But I wouldn't try to belittle the risks in order to head.

    I know, ignorance seems to be bliss for a lot of people.