Did Jesus have a negative or positive impact on the world?

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    Apr 17, 2014 2:44 PM GMT
    If Jesus was a real person and was like the man he was described to be he promoted acceptance of all people. That is a positive message and a good contribution to the world.

    On the flip side all the religious persecutions and wars killed many people.



    I'm not particularly religious but I thought it was an interesting concept that was brought up in my philosophy class given that it's Easter weekend.



    What do you guys think?
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    Apr 17, 2014 2:53 PM GMT
    lol Why the hell is this on the Food section? icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 17, 2014 4:01 PM GMT
    Xavier92 saidlol Why the hell is this on the Food section? icon_lol.gif


    Idk lmao
    I didn't notice that.
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    Apr 17, 2014 4:38 PM GMT
    Xavier92 saidlol Why the hell is this on the Food section? icon_lol.gif


    You know, blood of Christ and body, and such things as those.
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    Apr 17, 2014 5:06 PM GMT
    It wasn't Jesus.

    Human beings are just fashionable. They wanted to be creative in believing things simply.

    That said Jesus wasn't the driven factor of +ve or -Ve, but Humans to be blame.

    Probably the level of rationality and sensibly fashion that humans had in mind was just out of Greed, that's all.

    I don't think he held the responsibility of such outcome but I do believe if ever, his intentions were good. Only Humans weren't fit enough to cultivate such ideology.

    Greed goes very well pronounce till this day of age. icon_cool.gif Just look around you.

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    Apr 17, 2014 5:17 PM GMT
    I'm not a religious person (technically I'm Jewish...) but I believe that overall Jesus himself had a positive impact on the world. He meant to be a paradigm of human existence, putting others' needs before his own and showing people how to be generally "good" in their lives. It is the people that twist his words to fit their own fucked up ideologies that make a negative impact.
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    Apr 17, 2014 5:23 PM GMT
    wantmyDVM saidI'm not a religious person (technically I'm Jewish...) but I believe that overall Jesus himself had a positive impact on the world. He meant to be a paradigm of human existence, putting others' needs before his own and showing people how to be generally "good" in their lives. It is the people that twist his words to fit their own fucked up ideologies that make a negative impact.
    Agreed. If so called "Christians" actually tried to emulate Jesus the world would be a better place. Unfortunately many don't.
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    Apr 17, 2014 5:28 PM GMT
    wantmyDVM saidI'm not a religious person (technically I'm Jewish...) but I believe that overall Jesus himself had a positive impact on the world. He meant to be a paradigm of human existence, putting others' needs before his own and showing people how to be generally "good" in their lives. It is the people that twist his words to fit their own fucked up ideologies that make a negative impact.


    Jesus never existed. Just hearsay and pseudohistory bullcrap icon_rolleyes.gif
  • SinfulWays

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    Apr 17, 2014 5:59 PM GMT
    Yup, jesus is TOTALLY A FICTIONAL CHARACTER!!!
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    Apr 17, 2014 6:02 PM GMT
    SinfulWays saidYup, jesus is TOTALLY A FICTIONAL CHARACTER!!!
    And posting on this food forum is correct, doesn't the story go "he fed the masses with two fish, some bread and some wine" or something like that! Lol
  • MikeW

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    Apr 17, 2014 6:06 PM GMT
    SinfulWays saidYup, jesus is TOTALLY A FICTIONAL CHARACTER!!!
    Yeah, but even fictional characters (mythical symbols) can, do and have had an impact on history. Even verifiably real people who have had a significant impact in their age often get mythologized way beyond their actual persons. Legacy and legend vs. reality and all that.
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    Apr 17, 2014 6:31 PM GMT
    Weak excuse to post another computer generated art piece.

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    Apr 17, 2014 6:41 PM GMT
    Jesus, whether he was real or not, is just another part of human culture that has brainwashed millions of people. It's not all negative, but I don't think there's enough positive in this world of injustice to believe Jesus helped much lol.
  • Montague

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    Apr 17, 2014 6:43 PM GMT
    I like how Roger from American Dad put the story of Jesus in synopsis.

    "Jesus, the Greatest Dead Beat Dad story known to man... God knocks up Mary, disappears, Son becomes famous, God wants Son to live with him."
  • SinfulWays

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    Apr 17, 2014 6:56 PM GMT
    MikeW said
    SinfulWays saidYup, jesus is TOTALLY A FICTIONAL CHARACTER!!!
    Yeah, but even fictional characters (mythical symbols) can, do and have had an impact on history. Even verifiably real people who have had a significant impact in their age often get mythologized way beyond their actual persons. Legacy and legend vs. reality and all that.
    I Totally agree with you! My point was to stress that he is fiction!
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    Apr 17, 2014 7:09 PM GMT
    Agree with the fictional character statement. First century Palestine is a well documented epoch, and there is not a single mention of a man doing any of the things that are attributed to Jesus in the bible.

    That being said - Jesus' ideologies were overall positive. He was basically a socialist hippie.

    However, I think that the poison Christianity (and Islam, as Jesus is a prophet to them) have spread over the world vastly outweighs any perks of Jesus. After all, the golden rule already existed in the Analects of Confucius. The existence of jesus is thus unnecessary for modern day morality.

    His religion also teaches people to be complacent with not knowing answers. It has bred (not the good type) a country that is scientifically illiterate and turned normally decent people into backwards hate-mongers.
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    Apr 17, 2014 7:22 PM GMT
    wantmyDVM saidI'm not a religious person (technically I'm Jewish...) but I believe that overall Jesus himself had a positive impact on the world. He meant to be a paradigm of human existence, putting others' needs before his own and showing people how to be generally "good" in their lives. It is the people that twist his words to fit their own fucked up ideologies that make a negative impact.

    Precisely.

    Jesus Christ's teachings are an overwhelming force for good in the world, but some truly fucked up things have been done in his name.
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    Apr 17, 2014 7:33 PM GMT
    All Abrahamic religions are exclusionary and innately evil. They're not necessary for morality.


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    Apr 17, 2014 7:39 PM GMT
    The "Golden Rule" did indeed exist in Confucianism, as well as Buddhism, Ancient Greek mythology, and practically every other culture on earth in some form.

    The one innovative aspect of Jesus's teachings (as far as I can see) was the concept of forgiveness, which does not seem to exist in any major religion preceding him, at least not nearly to the same extent.

    I do think this concept has had a positive impact on the world, although it isn't exercised nearly enough. And while acceptance was also a major part of Jesus's teachings, this one still isn't exercised very much at all.

    Everything else - curing the sick, raising the dead, etc - are just a bunch of oddball stories that detract from the actual intended message. It's too bad the Christian religion (which Jesus did NOT intend to found) places so much importance on all that crap.
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    Apr 17, 2014 7:50 PM GMT
    Jesus is the language of healing to apply to all wounds

    Example
    Jesus, oh jesus jesus, jesus jesus you jesus.
    JESUS!

    Notice how an entire dialogue can be constructed from his name.. That is the power to heal!
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    Apr 17, 2014 7:51 PM GMT
    Lol drive through Texas/Oregon and parts of Washington

    All rural communities are scary with the power of Jesus

    It is the sensationalist trump card of logic. Additionally it negates a lack of logic as well.. To better understand please read post above.

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    Apr 17, 2014 7:56 PM GMT
    Xavier92 saidlol Why the hell is this on the Food section? icon_lol.gif


    Food for thought?
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    Apr 17, 2014 8:09 PM GMT
    Har19 saidIt wasn't Jesus.

    Human beings are just fashionable. They wanted to be creative in believing things simply.

    That said Jesus wasn't the driven factor of +ve or -Ve, but Humans to be blame.

    Probably the level of rationality and sensibly fashion that humans had in mind was just out of Greed, that's all.

    I don't think he held the responsibility of such outcome but I do believe if ever, his intentions were good. Only Humans weren't fit enough to cultivate such ideology.

    Greed goes very well pronounce till this day of age. icon_cool.gif Just look around you.



    Thanks kindly, Har. icon_wink.gif
  • britmed

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    Apr 17, 2014 8:47 PM GMT
    Unquestionably positive - did you see his fashion sense!? White robes, beard and sandals are now a wardrobe staple of mine.
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    Apr 17, 2014 8:55 PM GMT
    Jesus had a very positive affect on the world. Contributing some very valuable lessons.

    Man, on the other hand, has defiled much of what He taught, leaving the world to wonder if his message was really about peace and love.

    If you read any of the teaching that are attributed to Jesus himself, you'll find parables and lessons of common decency. You'll see teaching of how to love, who to love and why we should find forgiveness amongst everyone. Yep, it was well after he was crucified that man began to base their teaching on their own interpretation and attributing it to Jesus, thereby preaching very much the opposite of what Jesus himself actually taught.