Director Bryan Singer Accused of Sexually Assaulting Underage Boy

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    Apr 17, 2014 2:57 PM GMT
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    The filmmaker's lawyer calls suit 'absurd and defamatory'. Hmmm


    http://www.thewrap.com/bryan-singer-accused-sexually-abusing-underage-boy
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    Apr 17, 2014 3:00 PM GMT
    owl_bundy saidit's a hell of an accusation but being that hollyweird has lots of pedos... it should be investigated. he is innocent until proven guilty though.


    I sure hope it's all bullshit. icon_sad.gif
  • warrior1234

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    Apr 17, 2014 4:40 PM GMT
    Why didn't this come out before? Why now? The guy is 31 years old for gods sake. What was he doing for the rest of the 13 years?
  • MikeW

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    Apr 17, 2014 4:56 PM GMT
    warrior1234 saidWhy didn't this come out before? Why now? The guy is 31 years old for gods sake. What was he doing for the rest of the 13 years?
    I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if the allegations are true. From what I understand from reading about this, sexual exploitation is very common in Hollywood. Someone who has been sexually exploited often has guilt and shame associated with the abuse. It is rape and the fact it is male on male in a way makes it more difficult to go public about. There's also the negative impact it can have on one's career. Think, too, of all the sexual abuse cases involving the Catholic church, for example. An abuse victim often has to go through years of therapy and come to terms with it before they are willing to go public about it. I hope this case gets wider exposure and encourages others to file lawsuits against their rapists.

    ETA: I'm also thinking of the Mark Foley congressional case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley_congressional_page_incident Where ever there is power and money, this kind of thing happens, far more frequently than is commonly known.
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    Apr 17, 2014 4:59 PM GMT
    Corey Feldman has discussed this. Look at the last paragraph.

    Corey Feldman's 'Coreyography' Details Sexual Abuse He, Corey Haim Faced

    In his new memoir, Coreyography, Corey Feldman details the sexual abuse he and fellow child star Corey Haim endured in Hollywood at the hands of men they worked with and considered friends. Due out Oct. 28, the book also describes years of drug abuse both he and Haim faced.

    On the 1986 set of "Lucas," Haim told Feldman that “an adult male convinced him that it was perfectly normal for older men and younger boys in the business to have sexual relations, that it was what all the guys do. So they walked off to a secluded area between two trailers ... and Haim allowed himself to be sodomized," Feldman wrote, per an excerpt obtained by Page Six.

    After relaying the incident to Feldman, Haim asked, “So, I guess we should play around like that, too?” Feldman dismissed him, saying, that's “not what kids do, man." But Feldman went on to suffer abuse himself, specifically by a man named "Ron," whom his father hired as his assistant. Ron allegedly took advantage of him after turning him onto drugs.

    Both Haim and Feldman battled substance abuse issues for years. Feldman, now 42, reached a breaking point when he was arrested for heroin in 1990 at 19 years old. After two more drug arrests, he got sober. Haim was in and out of rehab for addiction 15 times before his death in 2010.

    “Corey was raped at the age of 11,” Feldman writes, via the New York Daily News, “and like many, many victims, drug use became an easy, if also tragic, way for him to escape the weight of that shame.”

    Two years before he died, Haim opened up to People magazine about his demons.

    "I was very, very awake and very ashamed of what was going on, how I put it, I was just ... coming into Hollywood, man, [I was] just a horny little kid, like on drugs, getting fed drugs, man, by vampires," he said of being abused at 14. "I still blame myself to an extent, but my conscience is much, much more clear. I have come to terms with this a long time ago but obviously not [totally]. Stuff happens when you are a kid, it scars you inside for life."

    In 2011, Feldman told "Nightline" that a "Hollywood mogul" who abused Haim is to blame for the late actor's death. He said pedophilia was and still is Hollywood's biggest problem and darkest secret.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/21/corey-feldman-sexual-abuse_n_4136524.html
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    Apr 17, 2014 5:07 PM GMT
    AlmondJoy saidCorey Feldman has discussed this. Look at the last paragraph.

    Corey Feldman's 'Coreyography' Details Sexual Abuse He, Corey Haim Faced ...
    Yes, exactly. Far more prevalent than commonly known. We shouldn't forget the whole Michael Jackson scandal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson.
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    Apr 17, 2014 5:11 PM GMT
    Yeah, I don't see this turning out well for Singer. Also named in the complaint is an already-convicted pedophile, who owned the home where this abuse allegedly occurred. Errr.
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    Apr 17, 2014 5:13 PM GMT
    MikeW said
    AlmondJoy saidCorey Feldman has discussed this. Look at the last paragraph.

    Corey Feldman's 'Coreyography' Details Sexual Abuse He, Corey Haim Faced ...
    Yes, exactly. Far more prevalent than commonly known. We shouldn't forget the whole Michael Jackson scandal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson.



    Corey Feldman Slams Michael Jackson Child Molestation Accuser Wade Robson: ‘He Had A Gripe’

    Four years after his death Michael Jackson is still surrounded by controversy but his longtime friend Corey Feldman never stops defending him against child molestation charges.

    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/10/corey-feldman-michael-jackson-defends-child-molestation-claims/



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    Apr 17, 2014 5:28 PM GMT
    Apparently the plaintiff was 17 at the time of the alleged incident. I have no idea if any of it is true and I certainly don't defend paedophelia or pederasty but truthfully, I do think a 17 year old guy knows exactly what he's doing and the age of consent should be 14.
  • MikeW

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    Apr 17, 2014 5:29 PM GMT
    AlmondJoy said
    MikeW said
    AlmondJoy saidCorey Feldman has discussed this. Look at the last paragraph.

    Corey Feldman's 'Coreyography' Details Sexual Abuse He, Corey Haim Faced ...
    Yes, exactly. Far more prevalent than commonly known. We shouldn't forget the whole Michael Jackson scandal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson.



    Corey Feldman Slams Michael Jackson Child Molestation Accuser Wade Robson: ‘He Had A Gripe’

    Four years after his death Michael Jackson is still surrounded by controversy but his longtime friend Corey Feldman never stops defending him against child molestation charges.

    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/10/corey-feldman-michael-jackson-defends-child-molestation-claims/

    I don't know what to make of that. MJ was just so weird--likely a product of child abuse himself (not at all uncommon for abuse victims to become predators themselves)--it is difficult to get a handle on what was going on there. As for defending him, if they were friends that may be all the explanation needed.
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    Apr 17, 2014 5:31 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidApparently the plaintiff was 17 at the time of the alleged incident. I have no idea if any of it is true and I certainly don't defend paedophelia or pederasty but truthfully, I do think a 17 year old guy knows exactly what he's doing and the age of consent should be 14.
    Why do you say it should be 14? I'm genuinely curious why you pick that age. That seems way too young to me. I mean, perhaps between two boys within a few years age of one another, but between a young teenager and an adult (21 or above)? I don't think so.
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    Apr 17, 2014 5:33 PM GMT
    lol kinda sad people jump to a "well it's hollywood, so it probably happened" conclusion rather than letting the case lie on it's own individual facts. might as well jump to the next step of "he's gay, so yeah he's probably a pedo".
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    Apr 17, 2014 5:44 PM GMT
    YUNGMORENO saidlol kinda sad people jump to a "well it's hollywood, so it probably happened" conclusion rather than letting the case lie on it's own individual facts. might as well jump to the next step of "he's gay, so yeah he's probably a pedo".
    "Probably" is not a word that has been used and in any case does not indicate a conclusion. I said "it wouldn't surprise me" based on historical precedent. Indeed, "innocent until proven guilty." The jump to gay=pedo is not logical or historically defensible.
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    Apr 17, 2014 5:47 PM GMT
    yeah, neither is "in hollywood," so
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    Apr 17, 2014 7:57 PM GMT
    MikeW said
    Destinharbor saidApparently the plaintiff was 17 at the time of the alleged incident. I have no idea if any of it is true and I certainly don't defend paedophelia or pederasty but truthfully, I do think a 17 year old guy knows exactly what he's doing and the age of consent should be 14.
    Why do you say it should be 14? I'm genuinely curious why you pick that age. That seems way too young to me. I mean, perhaps between two boys within a few years age of one another, but between a young teenager and an adult (21 or above)? I don't think so.

    I don't know. Picked it out of thin air. I just think our 18 is just more a punitive holdover from a religion-based fear of sex.

    Wikipaedia:
    The age of consent is 13 in Spain. It is 14 in Albania, Austria, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Estonia, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Macedonia, Montenegro, Portugal, San Marino and Serbia. It is 15 in Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, the Faroe Islands, France, Greece, Iceland, Monaco, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia and Sweden. It is 16 in Andorra, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Belgium, Finland, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Moldova, the Netherlands, Norway, Russia, Switzerland, Ukraine and the UK. It is 17 in Cyprus and Ireland and 18 in Malta and Turkey.

    Some of these countries, however, have laws which ofter increased protection for children who have reached the age of consent, but are still minors, for example by enacting laws which stipulate that it is illegal to engage in sexual acts with such children under exploitative circumstances (such laws exist in e.g. Austria, Germany, Portugal, Spain, Lichtenstein). These laws can be found mostly in the countries which have a lower age of consent.

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    Apr 17, 2014 8:03 PM GMT
    That dude just wants $$ now
  • britmed

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    Apr 17, 2014 8:29 PM GMT
    Too many people here are over-concerned about age and laws defining age of consent. The accusation made here is one of predatory abuse; taking advantage of people and using a mixture of power, drugs and coercion to engage in sexual assault.

    It's also extremely ignorant to question why the plaintiff would take so long to report this crime. Rape, especially male rape, is a heavily underreported crime such that the statistics we have on it are only of limited use. It can take men decades to cope with the readjustment that occurs after such a traumatic event. Someone who develops the strength to come forward needs to feel as though they can do so without the fear of judgement that has held them in silence for so long.

    To heal they must feel as though they are believed, reassured it is not their fault, told that whatever they have done to cope is okay, and that healing from it is possible. Only when the victim feels the certainty of these things can they face their attacker in a court setting. Age is only important so much as we assess whether or not the victim had capacity for consent (young people and children do not have capacity). In terms of an absolute in the murky stages of later teen-hood, we need to assess on an individual basis. And by the sounds of the claims, there were certainly more circumstances.

    As it stands it is impossible to know whether or not the claims are true (though people only need a headline and an opinionated personality to speculate). I do think that a level of name protection needs tobe given to the defendant until reasonable evidence is given or a conviction is made as the media are quick to brand. And rapist/paedophile are tricky associations to break. However I feel better knowing that a potential victim found the strength and are at the stage where they can seek justice. That's the world I want to live in.
  • irishkcguy

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    Apr 17, 2014 11:09 PM GMT
    If this is true, then a crime has been committed. How is it possible for this guy to sue Singer but not press criminal charges against him?
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    Apr 17, 2014 11:12 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidApparently the plaintiff was 17 at the time of the alleged incident. I have no idea if any of it is true and I certainly don't defend paedophelia or pederasty but truthfully, I do think a 17 year old guy knows exactly what he's doing and the age of consent should be 14.


    A 14-year-old kid is still in middle school. They legally can't drive and they sure as hell aren't old enough to be fucking.
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    Apr 17, 2014 11:32 PM GMT
    It wouldn't be the first time a producer/director abused his position - gay or straight. I wouldn't be surprised if these allegations are true.

    As far as the drug use and hustling - that very well may have come after the alleged abuse and coercion started or occurred. Someone who has been victimized turning to drugs isn't a novel idea.
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    Apr 18, 2014 4:03 AM GMT
    irishkcguy said
    Destinharbor saidApparently the plaintiff was 17 at the time of the alleged incident. I have no idea if any of it is true and I certainly don't defend paedophelia or pederasty but truthfully, I do think a 17 year old guy knows exactly what he's doing and the age of consent should be 14.


    A 14-year-old kid is still in middle school. They legally can't drive and they sure as hell aren't old enough to be fucking.


    I could not agree with you more! I can understand a Romeo and Juliet situation, where the the age difference is negligible (say, 18 and 16), but when a full grown adult is out preying on teenager, I feel like a line should be drawn. These types of encounters have a very strong likelihood of turning out bad for the teenager later on in life.

    True, Mr. Singer is innocent until proven guilty-- an axiom that I take to heart as a legal practitioner. Therefore, I will reserve judgment on this particular issue. Nonetheless, if the accusations prove to be true, I have no sympathy on Mr. Singer's plight.
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    Apr 18, 2014 4:05 AM GMT
    These parents willingly hand their kids over to these sickos. It's all about power. Frikkin' Michael K from Dlisted just wrote about how some Disneyland acquaintance of his got invited to one of this guy's notorious Hollywood twinkie parties.

    When Michael K blows the whistle, you know that where's there's smoke there's fire.
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    Apr 18, 2014 4:29 AM GMT
    warrior1234 saidWhy didn't this come out before? Why now? The guy is 31 years old for gods sake. What was he doing for the rest of the 13 years?


    Obviously, he was waiting for his acting career to take off, like he was promised. When he finally figured out that wasn't going to happen, he filed a lawsuit.

    Hollywood is a sick industry and always has been. People will do literally anything for an ounce of fame. Those in power exploit everyone they possibly can.

    A 17-year-old is more than old enough to know what he's doing, and this certainly is not pedophilia in the Jerry Sandusky sense of the word. But, plying a teenager with drugs and coercing him into sex by promising to make or break his career are criminal, inexcusable acts. If these allegations are true, Singer should be in jail.
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    Apr 18, 2014 7:18 AM GMT
    _Behemoth_ saidThat dude just wants $$ now

    Soooo? If it's true he is entitled to becaucoup dollars.
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    Apr 18, 2014 7:20 AM GMT
    irishkcguy saidIf this is true, then a crime has been committed. How is it possible for this guy to sue Singer but not press criminal charges against him?
    Whether or not to file criminal charges is up to the District Attorney - not the victim.