Being Vegetarian...

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    Dec 31, 2008 3:07 AM GMT
    So...

    I was a 2-year full-time vegetarian back in 2004. I tried being Vegan for about 4 months back then too. I was not a healthy vegetarian though. I was MALNOURISHED and did not eat enough at all. I dropped in weight to 115lbs (my adult life low weight).

    Now, for NY Resolution, I want to be vegetarian and STRONG too. I want to continue cardio and weight-training.

    I need ADVICE. What supplements are necessary??? Any ideas?



    Joe
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    Dec 31, 2008 4:24 AM GMT
    A B-complex vitamin is helpful, but not necessary. To be a vegetarian and healthy requires more knowledge than I would give in a post. Learning about where to get sufficient vitamins and minerals, combining amino acids to get a complete protein, and issues surrounding soy needs a few books. So, pop into your bookstore, browse the nutrition section and get a couple beginner guides. Then grab yourself a cookbook if you aren't already handy in the kitchen.
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    Dec 31, 2008 7:56 AM GMT
    I was a vegetarian starting back in the fifth grade until just last spring. My main issue was finding B vitamins (especially B12) and there were periods where I would include moderate amounts of poultry for mourishment. You can also get B12 vitamins from eggs. B vitamin supplements are available but be sure to ask a health professional as they are not regulated by the FDA so vitamins can be poorly produced or may neglect to provide proper instructions on how to consume them. There are plenty of vitamins that when consumed in excess can have adverse effects like cancer.
    Besides that, I know it's cliche but just make sure you have a well balanced diet, push whole grains, organic veggies, and look for protein alternatives - and remember, tempeh is the new tofu!

    If you're worried about not having enough protein in our diet you're probably not at risk unless your just eating crap all the time. Just try to focus on foods rich in amino acids. In terms of athleticism however the idea that meat is needed to be a good athlete is a total myth. Just think about it, plant matter gets its energy directly from the sun while livestock need to use a middle man to get that energy, making them much less productive carriers of energy. A diet rich in plant material and non meat proteins will do much more for your physical stamina then steak.
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    Dec 31, 2008 6:37 PM GMT
    One site here with lots of good info and even receipes and the guys pics will convince you that you can be a vege and still build big muscles.

    http://fitness.scoobysworkshop.com/veg.htm
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    Dec 31, 2008 11:40 PM GMT
    I've been ova-lacto vegetarian for eleven years (since mid-January '9icon_cool.gif. Most days I have a protein shake as a supplement (It's B12 fortified also). The only vitamins I take are chewables (used to be adult but childrens' work fine as well). My stomach just can't handle these megawitamins where you swallow a pill.

    For me, vegan would be just too much work. I have no desire to put that much effort into what I'm eating everyday.

    Good luck with it!
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    Dec 31, 2008 11:47 PM GMT
    I just can't do 100% total vegan, though I've had little to no problems with maintaining a vegetarian diet....I have cut out almost all dairy in 2008 and a rare egg now and then.....but between beans and nuts, I've kept my protein intake and for the most part look and feel great....slowly but surely I'm eliminating most soy too.....it really isn't that great for you....what I need to do better at is eliminating sugar....it's still my achilles heal.
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    Jan 01, 2009 7:11 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidA B-complex vitamin is helpful, but not necessary. To be a vegetarian and healthy requires more knowledge than I would give in a post. Learning about where to get sufficient vitamins and minerals, combining amino acids to get a complete protein, and issues surrounding soy needs a few books. So, pop into your bookstore, browse the nutrition section and get a couple beginner guides. Then grab yourself a cookbook if you aren't already handy in the kitchen.


    Thanks for the advice. I would hope that I could achieve all my vitamins and minerals from organic fruits, veggies, whole grains, nuts, beans and rice... Would you agree?

    As for soy, I do not like it because it upsets my stomach and I do not think it is very healthy in the way some people over-consume it.

    I am VERY skilled in the kitchen, so cooking is no issue for me. My family owned restaurants for 30 years. icon_biggrin.gif


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    Jan 10, 2009 2:58 AM GMT
    If you need a boost in protein whey protein is vegetarian, but you will want to check the labels or even call companies to make sure the additives are veg. You'll want to stay away from whey protein that was separated with cow rennet.

    There's also rice, hemp, and pea protein shakes that are vegetarian and vegan.
    This website was mentioned is another thread: www.trueprotein.com.

    Mourning Star makes Chik 'n fillets out of egg whites and those things are damn tasty. They go great with barbecue sauce.

  • metta

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    Jan 10, 2009 3:08 AM GMT
    I have been a vegetarian (never vegan) since 1990. I don't worry about taking supplements, etc. I just eat a wide variety of foods.

    If you have a day where you feel like you need more energy....just eat more protein. There are plenty of whey and soy protein drinks, bars, and foods available.

    Trader Joe's does make life easier though. ;)


    I have never experienced any problems with not enough weight...
    My weight stays pretty steady.

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    Jan 10, 2009 3:10 AM GMT
    If you eat a healthy diet rich in plant-based foods like you say, you should have no problem getting plenty of nutrients and minerals. It's when you don't eat natural vegetables and grains that you need to concern yourself with supplements.

    As far as gaining weight goes... a lot of that depends on body type. I'm a complete ectomorph and I just have to make sure I eat frequently and do a lot of weight training.

    Soy is not the greatest... unless it's in its natural state (which expires quickly) some believe it is actually a poison. Really watch out for meat replacement items in the frozen food aisle... most aren't even close to natural and it would be better to eat meat! Especially Morningstar products... they taste just like meat, but are filled with preservatives and un-natural ingredients. I've found a brand called Quorn that has some good products for on-the-go cooking. They use mushroom protein rather than soy in their foods. The only downside is with selection... most are chicken replacements.

    Hope this helps!


    P.S. - I'm lacto-ovo vegetarian for 9 years and I've been able to gain over 15 lbs of muscle... it's slow but possible!
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    Jan 10, 2009 3:45 AM GMT
    I've been a vegetarian for 23 years, and I'm doing fine. I don't eat eggs for the most part (I can handle them if they are dispersed in something like bread and even custard, but I can handled them in concentrated form, like fried eggs or quiche.) and haven't been able to even before I became vegetarian.

    The one thing I can say is that in the Weight Loss Challenge, they pushed me to have a higher intake of protein than I was used to. I've become addicted to protein shakes, mock meats, and cottage cheese. It's obviously made a big difference for me. Other than that, I'm not worried about my vitamin intake, as I've been doing okay with that.

    Tempeh rocks and Trader Joe's is your friend!
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    Jan 10, 2009 4:41 AM GMT
    I've been a vegetarian for 21 years. I too tried going vegan, and became ill. For me, ovo-lacto seemed to work best. I think it may be possible to be vegan and healthy for me, but it would take more money and time finding good things to eat than I have available right now.

    I drink organic milk and occassionally eat organic eggs-- a little bit goes a long way.

    I try to focus on the 90% of what I do (not eating meat), and let the 10% slide, rather than try again to go 100% and fail.

  • Jan 10, 2009 5:17 AM GMT
    Check out Joe DiMarco's website. He's a pro bodybuilder who's eats vegetarian. I eat vegetarian and have very good health stats because of it, but it's a little difficult to gain a lot of muscle without eating a lot more than you normally would as a non-bodybuilder. I've gained about 20 lbs of muscle since exercising regularly but need to eat more too daily.
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    Jan 10, 2009 7:29 AM GMT