Right vs. Left

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    Apr 20, 2014 12:49 AM GMT
    This may open a can of worms, but it might be just what some of us need to air out our political quagmires.

    In my house, there has been a political war going on. My MAN supports a different party than I and, as you can imagine, that sometimes causes us to have some pretty heated debates. (Might I add, they don't end with makeup sex icon_mad.gif )

    It's difficult for both of us for several reasons. Foremost, because the differences in opinions seem to cast a cloud of doubt regarding how we feel about the other one's values (which leads to an entirely different topic).

    My questions are:

    1: How important is political affiliation to you when it comes to dating/relationships? Why or why not?


    2. Do you ever feel like you have made an impact with the person you have been "debating" with, and do you ever adjust your views after said "debate"? If yes, how does it make you feel?
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    Apr 20, 2014 12:50 AM GMT
    I hate politics just like I hate religion.
  • jo2hotbod

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    Apr 20, 2014 12:55 AM GMT
    Politics means nothing when it comes to relationships, if that splits you apart you didn't need that person to begin with
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    Apr 20, 2014 12:58 AM GMT
    It would depend on how far apart our political views were. I like moderate conservatives but far right people are scary lol
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    Apr 20, 2014 1:00 AM GMT
    notoriouslyme saidMy boyfriend and I have the same political views on pretty much everything. icon_smile.gif


    I'm so Jelly. Was it by coincident, or did the topic come up before the relationship became serious? Had there been differing views, do you think that would have affected your decision to move forward with him?
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    Apr 20, 2014 1:10 AM GMT
    jo2hotbod saidPolitics means nothing when it comes to relationships, if that splits you apart you didn't need that person to begin with


    Theoretically, you are correct and I agree. We have been together for 7 years and we are still very much in love.

    However, disagreements do arise, and this one of them. Because of my profession, and as a general rule of thumb, I'm to remain apolitical in the public eye. This includes my closets friends.

    At home, I have to have at least one person I can share my views with, and one person who gets it. Right now, I don't have that and it makes me icon_rolleyes.gif.
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    Apr 20, 2014 3:12 AM GMT
    Politics splits my family too (parents and aunties). It's gotten really bad these past 5 years. I just don't get why they can't respect one another's viewpoints and get along.

    My siblings and I also don't agree politically but it's not a forefront issue among us. We learn not to impose our views on someone else.
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    Apr 20, 2014 2:06 PM GMT
    polfsky saidPolitics splits my family too (parents and aunties). It's gotten really bad these past 5 years. I just don't get why they can't respect one another's viewpoints and get along.

    My siblings and I also don't agree politically but it's not a forefront issue among us. We learn not to impose our views on someone else.


    That's the fundamental problem with a two party system. It only took a few hundred years - but both sides are exploiting it the best they can.

  • sideout

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    Apr 20, 2014 2:45 PM GMT
    Canada is pretty apathetic when it comes to politics. When I can I usually try to keep informed and have an opinion and I'd argue that is the minority. It hasn't really been an issue for me in relationships. I could see how it could drive a wedge in a relationship, it isn't often a position people will change from arguing/debating, once they have their minds set.
  • coolarmydude

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    Apr 20, 2014 2:51 PM GMT
    Sustenance saidIndependent stance is the most safest in this world... Ethnocentrism leads to war.


    Generally, politics and ethnocentrism are completely different things, unless one's politics are ethnocentric.
  • coolarmydude

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    Apr 20, 2014 2:54 PM GMT
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/love-war-with-james-carville-and-mary-matalin/
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    Apr 20, 2014 3:11 PM GMT
    Both political parties in the US seem to be thoroughly corrupt and irresponsible these days so I don't support either. Life is way more complicated than left and right .
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    Apr 20, 2014 3:25 PM GMT
    For me, political interest isn't a main topic in dating.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Apr 20, 2014 3:28 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidBoth political parties in the US seem to be thoroughly corrupt and irresponsible these days so I don't support either. Life is way more complicated than left and right .



    ^^^^ This ^^^^ Extremes on either side are creating havoc in this country
  • madsexy

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    Apr 20, 2014 3:35 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Alpha13 saidBoth political parties in the US seem to be thoroughly corrupt and irresponsible these days so I don't support either. Life is way more complicated than left and right .



    ^^^^ This ^^^^ Extremes on either side are creating havoc in this country

    Amen brothers!
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    Apr 20, 2014 4:32 PM GMT
    Amen to CuriousJockAZ's post.
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    Apr 20, 2014 6:44 PM GMT
    My husband and I share the same political view for the most part. I tend to be a little more liberal then him.

    But I would never be in a relationship or date someone who is Republican or on the right.
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    Apr 20, 2014 7:03 PM GMT
    coolarmydude said
    Sustenance saidIndependent stance is the most safest in this world... Ethnocentrism leads to war.


    Generally, politics and ethnocentrism are completely different things, unless one's politics are ethnocentric.


    I hear that - have you seen msnbc lately? UGH. All race, all the time.
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    Apr 20, 2014 8:01 PM GMT
    Ntyson said This may open a can of worms, but it might be just what some of us need to air out our political quagmires.

    In my house, there has been a political war going on. My MAN supports a different party than I and, as you can imagine, that sometimes causes us to have some pretty heated debates. (Might I add, they don't end with makeup sex icon_mad.gif )

    It's difficult for both of us for several reasons. Foremost, because the differences in opinions seem to cast a cloud of doubt regarding how we feel about the other one's values (which leads to an entirely different topic).

    My questions are:

    1: How important is political affiliation to you when it comes to dating/relationships? Why or why not?


    2. Do you ever feel like you have made an impact with the person you have been "debating" with, and do you ever adjust your views after said "debate"? If yes, how does it make you feel?


    So I assume you are the liberal in this relationship?
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    Apr 20, 2014 8:38 PM GMT
    Ntyson said ...
    My questions are:
    1: How important is political affiliation to you when it comes to dating/relationships? Why or why not?
    2. Do you ever feel like you have made an impact with the person you have been "debating" with, and do you ever adjust your views after said "debate"? If yes, how does it make you feel?




    1):
    there are deal breakers and for me politics is one of them. I just dont see a political party defining my life.

    2):
    I dont "debate" things. I think communications is key to a relationship but a "debate", especially with the quotations"" implies one side or the other is out to win. This must win concept is bad for a relationship, friendship, co-worker etc.
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    Apr 20, 2014 8:45 PM GMT
    Jack_NNJ saidI hear that - have you seen msnbc lately?


    Have you?
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    Apr 20, 2014 9:50 PM GMT
    It's really lazy thinking to consider the Democratic and Republican parties to be the extremes of left and right. In the context of our nation's history (and measured against the political environments in peer nations), our Republicans are the extreme right wing and our Democrats are center-right.

    Can you imagine today's Republicans making the tremendous infrastructure investments that Eisenhower made? Can you imagine FDR enacting something that so carefully protects corporate interests like the Affordable Care Act? Richard Nixon was more of an environmentalist than any president we've had since then.

    Furthermore, one party has an interest in making you feel disillusioned with the entire process. That would be the party whose platform involves dismantling government at several levels. When someone has a vested interest in making you believe something, that should raise your suspicions.

    I wish people would actually think critically about politics instead of defaulting to a "pox on both their houses" position.

    Anyway, to answer the original post, it would be hard for me. In a rational, thinking person, political beliefs will be derived directly from that person's values. If someone identifies as a Republican or Democrat, and seems reasonably intelligent, they have told me a lot about their core beliefs, and some of those beliefs may be pretty ugly.
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    Apr 20, 2014 10:07 PM GMT
    I was raised in a solidly pro-union NDP (left of centre) urban Toronto environment and married someone from a solidly small-C conservative Albertan family. Not surprisingly we had long arguments about politics and more than one election had competing election signs on our yard. Over a span of 20 years, though, our positions have migrated closer together. We don't always vote the same way but it's just not that big a deal anymore.

    I think the key was listening to the other person's arguments and being open-minded to alternative viewpoints. It helped that neither was an extremist at the beginning and actually listening helped us appreciate each other's position and probably kept us centred (pun intended).
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    Apr 20, 2014 10:24 PM GMT
    I wouldn't have any problems with having a bf who has a different political opinion than me, i'd be amused even. Could have some interesting debates for sure. I'm a socialist and nationalist (you could say i'm a national socialist icon_lol.gif ) and wouldn't have any problems dating someone who's very liberal or more conservative.
  • LJay

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    Apr 20, 2014 10:33 PM GMT
    I prefer the right hand, but that is another matter.

    As for politics, I think it is time that we got past the party divide and started thinking of the views of individuals. Of course, with the funding of campaigns being what it is, this is unlikely. Nevertheless, we are too divided and not thoughtful enough when it comes to politics.

    PS--Lavender type is very nearly unreadable.