I want my refund, Time Warner

  • hartfan

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    Dec 31, 2008 7:17 PM GMT
    For those who haven't heard:

    'Colbert,' 'SpongeBob' may go dark on Time Warner

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — "SpongeBob SquarePants" might get squeezed off Time Warner Cable.

    Media giant Viacom Inc. said its Nickelodeon, MTV, Comedy Central and 16 other channels will go dark for 13 million subscribers at 12:01 a.m. Thursday if a new carriage fee deal with Time Warner Cable Inc. is not agreed upon by then.

    The impasse would mean "SpongeBob" and other popular shows like Jon Stewart's "The Daily Show" and Stephen Colbert's "The Colbert Report" will be cut off on the nation's second-largest cable operator. Time Warner Cable primarily serves people in New York state, the Carolinas, Ohio, Southern California and Texas.

    Viacom has asked for fee increases of between 22 percent and 36 percent per channel, or a total of $39 million more, an amount that could increase customers' cable bills, said Time Warner Cable spokesman Alex Dudley.

    "The issue is that they have asked for an exorbitant increase in their carriage fees and their network ratings are sagging," Dudley said. "Basically we're trying to hold the line for our customer."

    Viacom spokeswoman Kelly McAndrew disputed the figure, saying Viacom requested an increase in the very low double-digit percentage range.

    Viacom said the increases would cost an extra 23 cents a month per subscriber. It said that Americans spend a fifth of their TV time watching Viacom shows but its fees make up less than 2.5 percent of the Time Warner cable bill.

    "We make this request because Time Warner Cable has so greatly undervalued our channels for so long," Viacom said.

    "Ultimately, however, if Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, MTV and the rest of our programming is discontinued — over less than a penny per day — we believe viewers will see this behavior by their cable company as outrageous," Viacom said.

    Time Warner Cable's Dudley said Viacom rejected his company's proposal to extend the contract while the sides continue to negotiate.

    Instead, Viacom appealed directly to Time Warner Cable's customers, with TV ads in major markets. In Wednesday's New York Times, the company ran a full-page, color advertisement with Nickelodeon's animated bilingual heroine "Dora the Explorer" crying and clinging to her monkey pal, Boots.

    "Why is Dora crying?" the ad asks. "Time Warner Cable is taking Dora off the air tonight!" The ad urges viewers to call Time Warner Cable and demand that their favorite shows remain on the air.

    If the shows go dark after midnight, Time Warner Cable will send people to the Internet to catch episodes. Dudley said the cable operator also will make available a video teaching people how to hook their computers up to the TV to watch online shows — a tactic it used during a contract dispute with broadcaster LIN TV in October.

    Part of the disagreement is that most of Viacom's popular shows are rerun on Web sites where Viacom collects advertising revenue that it does not share with Time Warner, Dudley said. "We don't think that's fair," he said.

    Viacom has staked much of its revenue-growth prospects on its ability to extract higher carriage rates out of its cable and satellite affiliates despite an ad slowdown and weak ratings.

    In the third quarter, media network revenue, which accounts for about two-thirds of Viacom's total, grew 6 percent to $2.1 billion, despite global ad revenue falling 2 percent, largely because of double-digit percentage growth in affiliate fees and the success of its "Rock Band" video game.

    Viacom shares rose 45 cents, 2.3 percent, to $19.71 in late morning trading Wednesday. Time Warner Cable shares lost 39 cents, 1.8 percent, to $21.37.

    The channels that would be affected are: Comedy Central, CMT: Pure Country, Logo, Palladia, MTV, MTV 2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams, MTV Tr3s, Nickelodeon, Noggin, Nick 2, Nicktoons, Spike, The N, TV Land, VH1, VH1 Classic, and VH1 Soul.
  • Mikeylikesit

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    Dec 31, 2008 10:18 PM GMT
    Oh MY...................Are WE all supost to read this?. Can I have a abreviated cliff note version??.......LOL
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    Dec 31, 2008 10:27 PM GMT
    Viacom wants more money from Time Warner. Time Warner doesn't want to pay Viacom more money because their ratings haven't been very high lately.

    Viacom is going to stop broadcasting their channels to Time Warner at midnight if they don't agree to their fairly small price increase.

    If that happens, Time Warner is going to direct you to websites online where you can see all of the programing Viacom's networks have to offer.

    It's shit like this that makes me glad I gave up cable TV a long time ago.
  • hartfan

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    Dec 31, 2008 10:30 PM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidViacom wants more money from Time Warner. Time Warner doesn't want to pay Viacom more money because their ratings haven't been very high lately.

    Viacom is going to stop broadcasting their channels to Time Warner at midnight if they don't agree to their fairly small price increase.

    If that happens, Time Warner is going to direct you to websites online where you can see all of the programing Viacom's networks have to offer.

    It's shit like this that makes me glad I gave up cable TV a long time ago.


    Thanks gwgtrunks!

    And Time Warner doesn't seem to be bothering about refunds either.
  • Mikeylikesit

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    Dec 31, 2008 10:31 PM GMT
    UGh!!!!!........I have satalite.........icon_biggrin.gif
    Too much Drama for me!
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    Dec 31, 2008 10:35 PM GMT
    Time Warner doesn't do refunds. We were without service for a week here one time. Their excuse? They were working on the lines to improve our cable signal. We ended up paying the same amount that month that we did every month.
  • Mikeylikesit

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    Dec 31, 2008 10:40 PM GMT
    Hense Why I dropped their Asses(arses) along time ago. I had a roommie that had an Illegal convertor box, That I had no clue about.
    They sued me for thief of Services.....LOL
    Cost me like 2000 bucks & I Said See ya!
  • hartfan

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    Dec 31, 2008 10:41 PM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidTime Warner doesn't do refunds. We were without service for a week here one time. Their excuse? They were working on the lines to improve our cable signal. We ended up paying the same amount that month that we did every month.


    Perhaps I should do as Time Warner recommends and switch to DirectTV...
  • Mikeylikesit

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    Dec 31, 2008 10:46 PM GMT
    Bravo!!!icon_biggrin.gif
  • hartfan

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    Dec 31, 2008 10:52 PM GMT
    Mikeylikesit saidBravo!!!icon_biggrin.gif


    A channel I apparently can't access right now.
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    Dec 31, 2008 10:55 PM GMT
    It's time.jpg to take action icon_wink.gif
  • Mikeylikesit

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    Dec 31, 2008 10:57 PM GMT
    Aww..........Come over here Sugar, I Have direct TV.........LOL
  • hartfan

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    Dec 31, 2008 11:03 PM GMT
    Mikeylikesit saidAww..........Come over here Sugar, I Have direct TV.........LOL


    Are there perks included?
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    Dec 31, 2008 11:05 PM GMT
    funny pictures
  • drakutis

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    Dec 31, 2008 11:31 PM GMT
    Just because you have satellite doesn't make you immune. I work for a MAJOR cable company (not Time Warner) and there are contracts that have to be negotiated to keep the channels going. We are in negotiations with one of the local TV stations and if that falls through, no CBS broadcasts in the DC region.

    Satellites services have to go through the same process.
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    Dec 31, 2008 11:36 PM GMT
    Oh, hell, they'll work it out.

    The charges for cable are so through the roof it's unreal. As for competition ... not really, in many places.