When English Isn't Your First Language.

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    Apr 24, 2014 5:01 AM GMT
    So, there's something I've been noticing more recently. i still say a lot of things in English in quite a weird way. English isn't my first or second language! it's actually my third. I learned Japanese first as a kid, then German, then English a couple years after that.

    I feel over the years my English has gotten very very good To the point most people wouldn't know it wasn't my first language. Lately I've noticed i stutter sometimes when i say certain phrases. Especially if I'm trying to explain something in dept in regards to fitness, sports or music.

    I was helping a guy at the gym with deadlifts yesterday. And i tried to explain how to keep good form and some other thing's... and got tongue tied trying to do it. Same thing happened with me when i try to teach friends how to play piano or bass. I get tongue tied and have to think hard about how to explain what I'm trying to say. And get across in a very easy way.

    What's a good way to overcome this? i really am trying to get a good grasp on everything that i say in English. Just liked i do with any other language I'm learning. I want to be able to talk efficiently, and not get tongue tied or have to think hard about how to speak a small idea.

    Any tips would be appreciated icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:03 AM GMT
    Try to read english books or articles on the internet with a pencil in your mouth.
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:08 AM GMT
    I took a class called "voice and articulation" at a community college. I found it pretty useful. There are exercises you can do to help with pronunciation.

    English is my 2nd language. I moved to the US at 16, so I can't get rid of my accent when I speak English. icon_sad.gif
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:23 AM GMT
    Xavier92 saidTry to read english books or articles on the internet with a pencil in your mouth.

    A pencil? How do you know he's not a size queen?
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:25 AM GMT
    English is not my native language, but still my first. I speak arabic and french as well. Funny enough, I have a weak accent in all 3, but nothing major. English people think I'm french, french people get confused, and Arabs think i'm of some english background. That being said, I would never be confused in english, but I cannot explain for shit in either of the other languages.
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:25 AM GMT
    I'd like to learn spanish... Or just start speaking spanglish over time.icon_razz.gif
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:27 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidI'd like to learn spanish... Or just start speaking spanglish over time.icon_razz.gif


    If you can't roll your R, you can't speak spanish.
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:27 AM GMT
    polfsky saidI took a class called "voice and articulation" at a community college. I found it pretty useful. There are exercises you can do to help with pronunciation.

    English is my 2nd language. I moved to the US at 16, so I can't get rid of my accent when I speak English. icon_sad.gif


    Wow! i learned when i was like 9 or 10. And I'm still making mistakes icon_lol.gif that's still great to learn at a young age. I wish i learned all the languages i know now before i was 18.
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:27 AM GMT
    Xavier92 said
    HottJoe saidI'd like to learn spanish... Or just start speaking spanglish over time.icon_razz.gif


    If you can't roll your R, you can't speak spanish.

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    Apr 24, 2014 5:28 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidI'd like to learn spanish... Or just start speaking spanglish over time.icon_razz.gif


    I can speak Spanish decently... but not fluently. Luckily I'm not a size king or queen.... or impatient! so someday icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_smile.gificon_smile.gificon_surprised.gif
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:28 AM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Xavier92 said
    HottJoe saidI'd like to learn spanish... Or just start speaking spanglish over time.icon_razz.gif


    If you can't roll your R, you can't speak spanish.

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    Or just pronounce it like Spaniards, Argentinians and Puerto Ricans do. Like an H. icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:29 AM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Xavier92 said
    HottJoe saidI'd like to learn spanish... Or just start speaking spanglish over time.icon_razz.gif


    If you can't roll your R, you can't speak spanish.

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    There there broseph! (angry man hug)
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:29 AM GMT
    Italian is a sexy language. I wanna learn Italian. icon_wink.gif
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:31 AM GMT
    woodsmen saidEnglish is my third language but it is the chemicals in my laboratory.


    Japanese and what's the other?
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:31 AM GMT
    Sweetooth saidEnglish is not my native language, but still my first. I speak arabic and french as well. Funny enough, I have a weak accent in all 3, but nothing major. English people think I'm french, french people get confused, and Arabs think I'm of some English background. That being said, I would never be confused in English, but I cannot explain for shit in either of the other languages.


    It's funny you mention that actually. When i was younger i had a more Japanese accent so to speak. But living in Texas as a kid, and Japan in the summertime. I developed a more southern accent since i was in Texas most of the time. Then when i moved to LA i seemed to have lost my southern accent.

    I never even really noticed these things at first. Till friends and family pointed them out. I have no idea what i would call me accent now... i guess I'm just Tyson icon_lol.gif

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    Apr 24, 2014 5:33 AM GMT
    woodsmen said
    Sweetooth said
    woodsmen saidEnglish is my third language but it is the chemicals in my laboratory.


    Japanese and what's the other?
    If I tell you, you would figure me out. I need some mysteries to keep you interested. <3



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    Apr 24, 2014 5:34 AM GMT
    lifeduringwartime23 said
    Sweetooth saidEnglish is not my native language, but still my first. I speak arabic and french as well. Funny enough, I have a weak accent in all 3, but nothing major. English people think I'm french, french people get confused, and Arabs think I'm of some English background. That being said, I would never be confused in English, but I cannot explain for shit in either of the other languages.


    It's funny you mention that actually. When i was younger i had a more Japanese accent so to speak. But living in Texas as a kid, and Japan in the summertime. I developed a more southern accent since i was in Texas most of the time. Then when i moved to LA i seemed to have lost my southern accent.

    I never even really noticed these things at first. Till friends and family pointed them out. I have no idea what i would call me accent now... i guess I'm just Tyson icon_lol.gif



    I don't even know how to qualify my english accent, but I would assume it's very north eastern american.
    I would love to hear RJers in real life (recordings do not do justice).
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:34 AM GMT
    woodsmen said
    Sweetooth said
    woodsmen saidEnglish is my third language but it is the chemicals in my laboratory.


    Japanese and what's the other?
    If I tell you, you would figure me out. I need some mysteries to keep you interested. <3


    You're so mean to me icon_cry.gif
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:35 AM GMT
    Sweetooth said
    lifeduringwartime23 said
    Sweetooth saidEnglish is not my native language, but still my first. I speak arabic and french as well. Funny enough, I have a weak accent in all 3, but nothing major. English people think I'm french, french people get confused, and Arabs think I'm of some English background. That being said, I would never be confused in English, but I cannot explain for shit in either of the other languages.


    It's funny you mention that actually. When i was younger i had a more Japanese accent so to speak. But living in Texas as a kid, and Japan in the summertime. I developed a more southern accent since i was in Texas most of the time. Then when i moved to LA i seemed to have lost my southern accent.

    I never even really noticed these things at first. Till friends and family pointed them out. I have no idea what i would call me accent now... i guess I'm just Tyson icon_lol.gif



    I don't even know how to qualify my english accent, but I would assume it's very north eastern american.
    I would love to hear RJers in real life (recordings do not do justice).


    What accent do you think I have? lol
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:37 AM GMT
    ^Spanish?
    I'm not sure, I don't know many Spanish speakers where I come from.
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:37 AM GMT
    I have a lot of bass in my voice Some say kind of gruff i guess. That's probably more from my German side i guess. I still have no idea what to call whatever accent i have now. Going from essentially a Japanese accent to a youngin, to a southern, to a mysterious one.

    I have an idea of what some on here might sound like. But you never know! icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:38 AM GMT
    Sweetooth said^Spanish?
    I'm not sure, I don't know many Spanish speakers where I come from.


    My Spanish is weird. It's basically Spanglish. icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:39 AM GMT
    I'm trying to learn Vietnamese right now. So far i'm having the same problems with it... that i am with English. And that is stuttering and not getting clear ideas out.

    My first bf who was thai, taught me to speak Thai. And for some reason that was the easiest language i learned.
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:40 AM GMT
    I've heard that Arabic and Talim are really hard.
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    Apr 24, 2014 5:44 AM GMT
    Xavier92 saidI've heard that Arabic and Talim are really hard.


    I once somewhat attempted Arabic. I have a few friends who speak it fluently. Whew... just... whew. That is a difficult one my friend. I would need years and years of patience and free time to really get a grasp on it icon_lol.gif