CarolinaMan saidSpoiler: They're RUNNING AWAY FAST!
U.S. Sen. Dean Heller (R-NV)
What he said previously: Appearing alongside Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) on KSNV-TV, Heller praised Bundy and his supporters: “What Sen. Reid may call domestic terrorists, I call patriots."
What he's saying now: A spokesman for Heller told the New York Times that the senator "completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.”
Do you use your head for anything more than holding up your hair? This is as ridiculous as everything else you've already posted on this subject.
So, you're saying that people can't agree that the BLM and Federal government were heavy handed in the way they handled this, people can't agree that this is a case of overreach by a bloated big government, people can't agree that the Federal Government should honor the promises made to the states to return the public lands to the jurisdiction of the state and at the same time disagree with Cliven Bundy's statement?
So in you're ridiculous little world if I (or any perceived conservative) agree with anyone on anything I/they have to agree with them on everything? Do you hold yourself and your like minded friends to the same standard?
For some people this was about the heavy handed handling of this issue by increasingly militarized bureaucracies.
For others this was about government overreach by an increasingly distant and out of touch and increasingly totalitarian government.
For others this was about the right of the states to determine how the public lands inside their state are used and the Federal Government's promise to return public lands to the states.
For some of us who deal with similar situations and actually have grazing, water and mineral rights, BLM and Forest Service leases and BLM and Forest Service grazing permits it's about all of the above and more.
Could we have chosen a better person to be the face of these issues in the west? Absolutely!
Could we have chosen someone more articulate? Sure we could, but then Barack "ugh, um, ugh, um" Obama isn't exactly so articulate and such a great public speaker without a teleprompter and Joe "the first thing Roosevelt did when the stock market crashed was to go on TV" Biden isn't much better and lets not forget Hillary "What Difference does it make" Clinton or the equally ignorant Harry" he doesn't have a Negro dialect unless he wants to" Reid.
The reality is, in the west, we have been fighting these issues for years. There have been many ranchers, farmers, and land owners abused by the BLM, Forest Service, EPA and other Federal agencies and there have been many other people who would have been a better choice for the face of this fight for those of us dealing with these issues in very real ways. The sad fact is this case came at the right time to get plenty of attention for what many of us face daily and have faced for years over these issues.
So for people like yourself sitting in a state where the Federal Government controls only 2.9% of the land inside the state and have never had to deal with any of these issues, why do you think you have any experience or understanding of this issue and why it struck a cord with those of us living in the west where the Federal Government controls more than 50% of the land in our states? Where our deeded land can be taken away from us just for the sake of "openness"? Where we can be fined millions of dollars for legally building a farm pond on our land with propper permits from the state? Where we can be fined millions for building on land we bought and the EPA claims is a wetland, and yet there is no water on the land? Where our land can be tied up because of an endangered frog that only lives in a handfull of ponds that are not even located in our state?
Because Cliven Bundy made some racial remarks, those of us who support the causes and issues he has suddenly become the face of, we, in your absurd world, aren't allowed to believe in the issues we face without disagreeing with his remarks? I wonder do you impose that same standard on yourself?
Because of Cliven Bundy's remarks,Tommy Henderson, Kenni Patton, Andy Johnson, Chantell and Mike Sackett, Andy and Ceil Barrie, Edward Poitevent and Raymond Yowell or any of the other ranchers or land owners in the west who happen to have issues over private and public lands are all racists?
For most of us this wasn't about Cliven Bundy, yet people like you and the rest of the uninformed left have tried to make it about Cliven Bundy.