USA Presidential Election 2016

  • metta

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    Apr 25, 2014 12:04 AM GMT


    2016 Interactive Presidential Election Map

    http://www.270towin.com/

    The 2016 Presidential Race: A Cheat Sheet

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/the-state-of-the-2016-presidential-race-a-cheat-sheet/384828/


    http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm


    http://fivethirtyeight.com/


    How Jeb Bush Loses On Super Tuesday, 2016

    http://www.theawl.com/2014/04/how-jeb-bush-loses-on-super-tuesday-2016


    2016 National GOP Primary
    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-gop-primary



    2016 National Democratic Primary
    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary
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    Apr 25, 2014 2:27 PM GMT
    I cannot fathom Jeb Bush winning even winning a GOP primary in the age of Cruz/Paul/TeaParty. It seems to be only Democrats taking his potential candidacy seriously.

  • mybud

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    Apr 25, 2014 4:36 PM GMT
    Hilliary plays sound bytes on Cruz, Paul, supporting Cliven "BEEFGATE" Bundy, Hilliary by 6 points in 2016.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 26, 2014 6:19 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidIf Hillary Clinton runs, she will be elected the next President.

    But really, why not give this a rest for at least the next year or so.
    No she won't be elected. Not unless the GOP picks a good, viable candidate to challenge her and expose her countless lies and hypocrisy over the years. She is totally unfit for the White House. A lot can happen between now and then so you guys need to stop jumping to conclusions and forget about the 2016 presidential election for the time being.
  • SomeSiciliano...

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    Apr 26, 2014 6:51 PM GMT

    I'm with Southbeach in that it is too early to even speculate on how the '16 cycle will play out.

    There are several unnamed dark horses that can change the polling trajectory. The battle between Tea Party Reps and Establishment Reps has yet to be resolved and there is a Fifth Column of progressive Republicans (I know, sounds oxymoronic but they DO exist)that may alter the primary outcomes in key states.

    Hillary is playing her cards close to the chest. I can not see her jumping in if there is a chance she will get screwed by the DNC and loose the nomination. IF she bows out...who is the Dem go to person? Biden?? icon_lol.gificon_eek.gif The only numbers that stand to gain from a Big Daddy Joe run are the ratings for Jon Stewart and 'The Daily Show'.
  • HottJoe

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    Apr 28, 2014 6:30 PM GMT
    I get the sense that a lot of people would feel the country is in good hands with Hillary Clinton. She's tough and smart and she seems to be coming into her own as a leader who can get anything done and still be compassionate enough to stay connected and grounded.
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    Apr 28, 2014 6:47 PM GMT
    Here are the tough facts for the GOP:

    States that have gone "blue" in each of the previous SIX presidential elections (that's a quarter of a century) = 242 Electoral votes.
    Needed to win = 270

    Florida, with its 29 EV, is not included in this list, but it went Democratic in 3 of the past 4 elections.

    Does anyone seriously think the Republicans have a shot at the White House in 2016? Wishful thinking is nice, and very comforting for some, but hard election realities don't match the dreams.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 29, 2014 3:14 PM GMT
    ElectroShark saidHere are the tough facts for the GOP:

    States that have gone "blue" in each of the previous SIX presidential elections (that's a quarter of a century) = 242 Electoral votes.
    Needed to win = 270

    Florida, with its 29 EV, is not included in this list, but it went Democratic in 3 of the past 4 elections.

    Does anyone seriously think the Republicans have a shot at the White House in 2016? Wishful thinking is nice, and very comforting for some, but hard election realities don't match the dreams.
    It all depends on who the republicans choose as their candidate in 2016. Now if the republicans don't pander to those NARROW MINDED BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS who are fixated on abortion and gay marriage, than they have a fairly good chance at winning the White House. The democrats if they are smart will be guaranteed to hang onto the White House if they don't nominate that hapless Hillary ho for a candidate. She is totally unfit to serve as President of the US. Some of you guys on here are living in this fantasyland that she will easily trounce any republican challenger. That's bullshit. Most republicans and independents don't like her and will vote overwhelmingly to defeat her to the chagrin of democratic voters. So don't get your hopes too high about Billery and stop believing all these nonsensical polls. It is only 2014, we should not be worrying about a presidential election in 2016. Time flies by fast enough. All these people who are focusing on something over two years away obviously have too much time on their hands.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Apr 29, 2014 3:23 PM GMT
    Intriguing.. things change so much, it will be interesting to see what the reality is in 2016. Of course I'm all for Hillary Clinton as I was last time. I just don't think it will be as easy for her as it seems at this juncture.
  • HottJoe

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    Apr 29, 2014 3:45 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidIntriguing.. things change so much, it will be interesting to see what the reality is in 2016. Of course I'm all for Hillary Clinton as I was last time. I just don't think it will be as easy for her as it seems at this juncture.

    Nothing is ever easy, but one thing she has going for her is that she's not the type to back down, and that's the kind of leader Americans want more than ever right now, at a time when the political parties have shown to be uncompromising and in constant gridlock.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 29, 2014 4:12 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    HndsmKansan saidIntriguing.. things change so much, it will be interesting to see what the reality is in 2016. Of course I'm all for Hillary Clinton as I was last time. I just don't think it will be as easy for her as it seems at this juncture.

    Nothing is ever easy, but one thing she has going for her is that she's not the type to back down, and that's the kind of leader Americans want more than ever right now, at a time when the political parties have shown to be uncompromising and in constant gridlock.
    She is a very polarizing figure because there are many Americans especially Independents and Republicans that don't like her and consider her totally untrustworthy. She will not unify anything in Washington. Instead she would be just another polarizing figure. Plus she has a lot of baggage in her closet. The gridlock will continue on regardless of Hillary not backing down. They will just wear her out.
  • HottJoe

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    Apr 29, 2014 4:40 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    HottJoe said
    HndsmKansan saidIntriguing.. things change so much, it will be interesting to see what the reality is in 2016. Of course I'm all for Hillary Clinton as I was last time. I just don't think it will be as easy for her as it seems at this juncture.

    Nothing is ever easy, but one thing she has going for her is that she's not the type to back down, and that's the kind of leader Americans want more than ever right now, at a time when the political parties have shown to be uncompromising and in constant gridlock.
    She is a very polarizing figure because there are many Americans especially Independents and Republicans that don't like her and consider her totally untrustworthy. She will not unify anything in Washington. Instead she would be just another polarizing figure. Plus she has a lot of baggage in her closet. The gridlock will continue on regardless of Hillary not backing down. They will just wear her out.

    The same can be said for any democrat, because the republicans' main objective to obstruct progress. We need a democrat who can plow through the red tape and get things done, despite gridlock.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 29, 2014 5:02 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    roadbikeRob said
    HottJoe said
    HndsmKansan saidIntriguing.. things change so much, it will be interesting to see what the reality is in 2016. Of course I'm all for Hillary Clinton as I was last time. I just don't think it will be as easy for her as it seems at this juncture.

    Nothing is ever easy, but one thing she has going for her is that she's not the type to back down, and that's the kind of leader Americans want more than ever right now, at a time when the political parties have shown to be uncompromising and in constant gridlock.
    She is a very polarizing figure because there are many Americans especially Independents and Republicans that don't like her and consider her totally untrustworthy. She will not unify anything in Washington. Instead she would be just another polarizing figure. Plus she has a lot of baggage in her closet. The gridlock will continue on regardless of Hillary not backing down. They will just wear her out.

    The same can be said for any democrat, because the republicans' main objective to obstruct progress. We need a democrat who can plow through the red tape and get things done, despite gridlock.
    Why does it have to be a democraticon_question.gif Why can't it be a moderate, progressive republican or an Independent. The democrats are just as responsible for the gridlock in Washington as the right wing conservatives in the GOP.
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    Apr 29, 2014 5:20 PM GMT
    Sadly, Canadians will pay more attention to the US primaries than to the next Canadian election, which is scheduled for 2015 or earlier.
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    Apr 29, 2014 5:30 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWhy can't it be a moderate, progressive republican or an Independent. The democrats are just as responsible for the gridlock in Washington as the right wing conservatives in the GOP.

    There are no moderate Republicans left, that's why.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 29, 2014 5:32 PM GMT
    shawnathan saidSadly, Canadians will pay more attention to the US primaries than to the next Canadian election, which is scheduled for 2015 or earlier.
    It is time for Canada to stop being so heavily influenced by the US and start developing strong economic and cultural ties with other countries in the world. This will greatly help strengthen and diversify the Canadian economy and increasingly insulate Canada from the ups and downs of the American economy. Finally Canada will also earn the international respect as a separate sovereign nation-state rather than being wrongly perceived as a glorified northern extension of the US.
  • HottJoe

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    Apr 29, 2014 6:02 PM GMT
    The center is too far to the right for me. Most people in the center seem apathetic/uninformed toward issues that are important to me, such as climate change, income inequality, public education, healthcare, immigration and so forth, which, unfortunately, means I'd have to sell out my values in order to head in a centrist direction. I'm radical, because true democracy has become a radical notion. The second someone wants to empower the middle class, and to construct laws so that the middle class is protected from robber barons, they're accused of class warfare. I believe the laws and regulations that favor the rich are the real acts class warfare, because they're degrading and demoralizing to the whole country.

    People who care only about wealth should be free to break the mold and accumulate wealth, if that's what's important to them, but the laws shouldn't favor them. Obsession with money is arguably a very soulless vice, and I certainly don't want to give them power over people who may not even share those values. Laws that cater to the rich are destabilizing to the rest of society.
  • creature

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    May 01, 2014 11:36 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidThe center is too far to the right for me. Most people in the center seem apathetic/uninformed toward issues that are important to me, such as climate change, income inequality, public education, healthcare, immigration and so forth, which, unfortunately, means I'd have to sell out my values in order to head in a centrist direction. I'm radical, because true democracy has become a radical notion. The second someone wants to empower the middle class, and to construct laws so that the middle class is protected from robber barons, they're accused of class warfare. I believe the laws and regulations that favor the rich are the real acts class warfare, because they're degrading and demoralizing to the whole country.

    People who care only about wealth should be free to break the mold and accumulate wealth, if that's what's important to them, but the laws shouldn't favor them. Obsession with money is arguably a very soulless vice, and I certainly don't want to give them power over people who may not even share those values. Laws that cater to the rich are destabilizing to the rest of society.


    +1

    And speaking of the presidential election, it looks like Rand Paul will have to choose between running for Senator or running for President, as the law of Kentucky only allows him to run for one office.

    If he's smart, he'll run for Senator. He ought to know he has a slim chance of becoming President. But then again, he doesn't understand what plagiarism is, so go figure.
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    May 03, 2014 10:50 AM GMT
    Was that a bat?icon_razz.gificon_lol.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    May 03, 2014 3:52 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidThe center is too far to the right for me. Most people in the center seem apathetic/uninformed toward issues that are important to me, such as climate change, income inequality, public education, healthcare, immigration and so forth, which, unfortunately, means I'd have to sell out my values in order to head in a centrist direction. I'm radical, because true democracy has become a radical notion. The second someone wants to empower the middle class, and to construct laws so that the middle class is protected from robber barons, they're accused of class warfare. I believe the laws and regulations that favor the rich are the real acts class warfare, because they're degrading and demoralizing to the whole country.

    People who care only about wealth should be free to break the mold and accumulate wealth, if that's what's important to them, but the laws shouldn't favor them. Obsession with money is arguably a very soulless vice, and I certainly don't want to give them power over people who may not even share those values. Laws that cater to the rich are destabilizing to the rest of society.
    Do you think that the hapless Hillary ho is going to change any of this current scenario, if you do than you are living in a complete fantasyland. Hillary is just as much a part of the wealthy ruling class that wants all laws to favor the rich because she also benefits from this current scenario. The same for all other democrats. They are no damned better than the conservative republicans. If you really want change in this country and restore the viability of both the middle and working classes than you are going to have to vote for an alternative political party or for an independent. Otherwise it is going to be the same old, same old. It is time to end the democratic-republican duopoly that has held the US under a dictatorship like control for too damned long.
  • metta

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    May 09, 2014 12:35 AM GMT
    Mitt Romney considering 2016 run if Jeb Bush doesn't

    http://www.examiner.com/article/report-mitt-romney-considering-2016-run-if-jeb-bush-doesn-t
  • coolarmydude

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    May 09, 2014 1:50 AM GMT
    metta8 saidMitt Romney considering 2016 run if Jeb Bush doesn't

    http://www.examiner.com/article/report-mitt-romney-considering-2016-run-if-jeb-bush-doesn-t


    I give him a 47% chance of running and a 147% chance of losing. icon_wink.gif
  • topathlete

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    May 09, 2014 3:47 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidIf Hillary Clinton runs, she will be elected the next President.

    You made this exact same comment in another thread so I will repost my reply. If you are so certain of things I suggest you get into horse racing to make some extra cash.

    Previous reply:

    I must emphasize that Hillary running for President does not mean that she will be elected. It's possible she may not even win the nomination even though there is no serious challenger among the Democrats at present.

    This invincibility opinion was also present when Obama came out of nowhere to defeat her.

    She would be a formidable candidate but will be old and could be increasingly be seen as damaged goods. Even though most voters don't know or care about foreign affairs they still want someone competent. All the failures under her watch could very well erode confidence in her competency among independents.
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    May 09, 2014 3:58 AM GMT
    Lets hope Monica's book will help save America from that women Ms White Water Chillery.
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    May 09, 2014 4:12 AM GMT
    topathlete said
    southbeach1500 saidIf Hillary Clinton runs, she will be elected the next President.

    You made this exact same comment in another thread so I will repost my reply. If you are so certain of things I suggest you get into horse racing to make some extra cash.

    Previous reply:

    I must emphasize that Hillary running for President does not mean that she will be elected. It's possible she may not even win the nomination even though there is no serious challenger among the Democrats at present.

    This invincibility opinion was also present when Obama came out of nowhere to defeat her.

    She would be a formidable candidate but will be old and could be increasingly be seen as damaged goods. Even though most voters don't know or care about foreign affairs they still want someone competent. All the failures under her watch could very well erode confidence in her competency among independents.

    Elizabeth Warren. She'll make Hillary yesterday's news. Warren will be what cements the Democratic Party as a progressive party, IMO. She may not win, but she'll pull the Dems in the ultimate progressive direction, IMO.