Marijuana and Working Out...

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    Jan 01, 2009 9:35 PM GMT
    Not sure if this topic has EVER been discussed here on RJ so... icon_twisted.gif

    What is your Opinion? I know everyone has one.

    And, if anyone has LINKS to Scientific Studies...That Would Be Awesome!


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  • GQjock

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    Jan 01, 2009 9:44 PM GMT
    Marijuana is a depressant
    and not very conducive to a workout
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    Jan 01, 2009 9:48 PM GMT

    My opinion is that a drug free lifestyle is a healthy lifestyle and so is working out. I think that if you mix the two, working out and a drug use of anykind, one lifestyle will yield to the other and it's often the healthy working out that gets the boot.
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    Jan 01, 2009 10:36 PM GMT
    You should not smoke and then workout, your heart rate is higher and you could easily overexert yourself. But smoking after a workout is nice icon_twisted.gif
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    Jan 01, 2009 10:40 PM GMT
    I guess we know who the resident pot head is around here. icon_lol.gif

    I'm no square. I don't care if you smoke weed. It's certainly not any worse than meth. But over time that shit fucks up your lungs. I think we've all heard that smoking one joint does the same amount of damage to your lungs as smoking a whole pack of cigarettes. And it's a misconception that using a bong will counteract this. It's still smoke going into your lungs.
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    Jan 01, 2009 10:44 PM GMT
    im a resident pothead icon_twisted.gif
  • swimbikerun

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    Jan 01, 2009 10:53 PM GMT
    DalTXhoss saidim a resident pothead icon_twisted.gif
    Me too! hawt

    I actually get quite a nice buzz just from running or biking or a nice long ride. The buzz after an a 80 mile bike ride cannot compare to a weed or booze buzz.

    I find it reduces lung capacity but in moderation (like anything) it's much better than drinking.
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    Jan 01, 2009 11:10 PM GMT
    xrichx saidI guess we know who the resident pot head is around here. icon_lol.gif

    I'm no square. I don't care if you smoke weed. It's certainly not any worse than meth. But over time that shit fucks up your lungs. I think we've all heard that smoking one joint does the same amount of damage to your lungs as smoking a whole pack of cigarettes. And it's a misconception that using a bong will counteract this. It's still smoke going into your lungs.


    WHAT!?
    icon_idea.gifLET ME EXPLAINicon_idea.gif
    Why Marijuana is Illegal
    Okay, haha, Back in the 1930s, during the Great Depression, marijuanna got tangled up with immigration issues. The mexican immigrants would hang out on the border and would get picked up for work. Some would smoke or drink and end up causing trouble, the whole "one bad apple spoils the whole bunch." Knowing how popular marijuana was,the US decided to use it as a way to stop the flood of mexican immigrants. The immigrants frequently brought marijuana over the border to sell. The US declared in order to sell marijuana you needed to have a stamp, and in order to get the stamp you had to have the marijuana in hand while applying, and to carry marijuana was illegal. The paradox blocked marijuana and helped thin out the illegal immigrants. The english name is Cannibis, but the US chose to call the plant by it's spanish name, Marijuana, to add to the stigma. The US did the same thing to outlaw the tommy gun. The head of the the federal beura of narcotics used propaganda to inspire fear of the rather harmless plant. Movies like Reefer Maddness are a prime example of the scare tactics. The FBN used one case a their shining example of how pot can make you go crazy, of a young man who had smoked and murdered his family. It was not released until later that the man was schitzophernic.
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    It is impossible to overdose on pot, the amount you'd have to smoke in the given time is physically impossible. Marijuana is WAY less dangerous than alcohol and does not inspire violence. Yes it does reduce lung capacity but only by about 4% and it was recorded when the user stopped smoking their hungs regained capacity.

    Smoking pot is not like cigarettes. Tobacco naturally produces nicotine to ward off pests and insects. The tobacco companies add in poisons and chemicals to get you addicted. The worst part of the joint is the paper, You can burn the paper, and if it leaves a lot of residue then it is poor quality, the leaves of the plant are harmless as long as you don't smoke the tar, a byproduct of burning which contains no TCH (Tetrahydrocannabinol, what gives you a clean high) You can smoke anything and get high, but it's only from the lack of oxygen.
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    Jan 01, 2009 11:35 PM GMT
    I don't smoke, but I have no issue with those who do - it's your body, your choice.

    As far as working out goes, I wouldn't know the side effects involved either.
    But I do know that marijuana gives you the munchies, so I would be slightly worried that it could lead you to eating a whole heap of junk food that won't help your fitness goals in any way.
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    Jan 01, 2009 11:40 PM GMT
    xrichx saidI guess we know who the resident pot head is around here. icon_lol.gif

    I'm no square. I don't care if you smoke weed. It's certainly not any worse than meth. But over time that shit fucks up your lungs. I think we've all heard that smoking one joint does the same amount of damage to your lungs as smoking a whole pack of cigarettes. And it's a misconception that using a bong will counteract this. It's still smoke going into your lungs.


    ok, this post deserves to win some kind of lack of rationality award.

    First off, yes marijuana is "not any worse than meth"... however what would be just slightly more accurate would be "marijuana is not even close to as harmful as meth is". i mean jeez, gimme a break

    As for "fucking up your lungs", the post was "marijuana and working out", not smoking weed and working out. weed can be ingested orally as an edible or vaporized with a heat gun so that you are not inhaling any smoke

    and there ARE benefits to bong usage, since it cools down hot smoke that is going down to your lungs... yes, that's still bad for you, but there is an incremental benefit.

    yes, we've all heard of the study where one joint equals a pack of cigs... and we've all also heard that that study is a load of shit, just like all the other reefer madness shit they spew out at us. and i think its fair to say that most marijuana smokers do not smoke a whole joint over the course of one session or even a day. for me, 2-3 hits out of my pipe is more than enough

    as long as you're not an addict, weed is fine and is soooo UNLIKE all the other real drugs out there, i hardly even consider it a drug. For instance, the 5 pills of ecstasy i took last night put me through the fucking ringer... i dont even feel like myself today... now thats a drug you dont want to abuse
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    Jan 01, 2009 11:44 PM GMT
    apparently you can have both.
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  • Mglman

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    Jan 01, 2009 11:49 PM GMT
    Ive played sports stoned and its enjoyable. I dont think we play as good but as long as everyone does it is on a level playing fieldicon_smile.gif
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    Jan 01, 2009 11:52 PM GMT
    u get man boobs from smoking pot. a bit counter-productive if u ask me.
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    Jan 02, 2009 12:14 AM GMT
    Hunter9 said
    ok, this post deserves to win some kind of lack of rationality award.

    First off, yes marijuana is "not any worse than meth"... however what would be just slightly more accurate would be "marijuana is not even close to as harmful as meth is". i mean jeez, gimme a break

    As for "fucking up your lungs", the post was "marijuana and working out", not smoking weed and working out. weed can be ingested orally as an edible or vaporized with a heat gun so that you are not inhaling any smoke

    and there ARE benefits to bong usage, since it cools down hot smoke that is going down to your lungs... yes, that's still bad for you, but there is an incremental benefit.

    yes, we've all heard of the study where one joint equals a pack of cigs... and we've all also heard that that study is a load of shit, just like all the other reefer madness shit they spew out at us. and i think its fair to say that most marijuana smokers do not smoke a whole joint over the course of one session or even a day. for me, 2-3 hits out of my pipe is more than enough

    as long as you're not an addict, weed is fine and is soooo UNLIKE all the other real drugs out there, i hardly even consider it a drug. For instance, the 5 pills of ecstasy i took last night put me through the fucking ringer... i dont even feel like myself today... now thats a drug you dont want to abuse

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  • Hunter9

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    Jan 02, 2009 12:15 AM GMT
    Seb26 saidu get man boobs from smoking pot. a bit counter-productive if u ask me.


    not true... you get man-boobs from munching on cheetoes and twinkies
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    Jan 02, 2009 12:30 AM GMT
    no offense but id rather believe a reputable plastic surgeon than a pot loving enthusiast
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    Jan 02, 2009 1:23 AM GMT
    Seb26 is actually right. Here are two studies (at the bottom) from medical journals that have shown marijuana increases lipogenesis.

    That along with the increase in food intake (say...chips), could potentially lead to "man boobs".

    Any drug that changes hormonal levels is not good to use when you are working out. This includes many energy supplements like Redline and Nitric Oxide supplements that contain additional drugs.

    However, recreational use of pot, in my opinion is fine. People take much more dangerous drugs every day.


    Endocannabinoid control of food intake and energy balance.


    Marijuana and its major psychotropic component, &UDelta;(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol, stimulate appetite and increase body weight in wasting syndromes, suggesting that the CB1 cannabinoid receptor and its endogenous ligands, the endocannabinoids, are involved in controlling energy balance. The endocannabinoid system controls food intake via both central and peripheral mechanisms, and it may also stimulate lipogenesis and fat accumulation. Here we discuss the multifaceted regulation of energy homeostasis by endocannabinoids, together with its applications to the treatment of eating disorders and metabolic syndromes.

    Endocannabinoids and liver disease. IV. Endocannabinoid involvement in obesity and hepatic steatosis


    Endocannabinoids are endogenous lipid mediators that interact with the same receptors as plant-derived cannabinoids to produce similar biological effects. The well-known appetitive effect of smoking marijuana has prompted inquiries into the possible role of endocannabinoids in the control of food intake and body weight. This brief review surveys recent evidence that endocannabinoids and their receptors are involved at multiple levels in the control of energy homeostasis. Endocannabinoids are orexigenic mediators and are part of the leptin-regulated central neural circuitry that controls energy intake. In addition, they act at multiple peripheral sites including adipose tissue, liver, and skeletal muscle to promote lipogenesis and limit fat elimination. Their complex actions could be viewed as anabolic, increasing energy intake and storage and decreasing energy expenditure, as components of an evolutionarily conserved system that has insured survival under conditions of starvation. In the era of plentiful food and limited physical activity, pharmacological inhibition of endocannabinoid activity offers benefits in the treatment of obesity and its hormonal/metabolic consequences.
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    Jan 02, 2009 1:37 AM GMT

    My advice is dont smoke pot before hitting the gym. Once in awhile, however, it's completely fine, maybe even healthy.

    Also, everything in moderation, including moderation. icon_smile.gif
  • Hunter9

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    Jan 02, 2009 1:43 AM GMT
    Seb26 saidno offense but id rather believe a reputable plastic surgeon than a pot loving enthusiast


    fuck the studies, if you smoke a bit of pot, you're not going to grow breasts

    and for some people (not all) getting high can really focus your efforts at the gym.
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    Jan 02, 2009 1:44 AM GMT
    xrichx said
    Hunter9 said
    ok, this post deserves to win some kind of lack of rationality award.

    First off, yes marijuana is "not any worse than meth"... however what would be just slightly more accurate would be "marijuana is not even close to as harmful as meth is". i mean jeez, gimme a break

    As for "fucking up your lungs", the post was "marijuana and working out", not smoking weed and working out. weed can be ingested orally as an edible or vaporized with a heat gun so that you are not inhaling any smoke

    and there ARE benefits to bong usage, since it cools down hot smoke that is going down to your lungs... yes, that's still bad for you, but there is an incremental benefit.

    yes, we've all heard of the study where one joint equals a pack of cigs... and we've all also heard that that study is a load of shit, just like all the other reefer madness shit they spew out at us. and i think its fair to say that most marijuana smokers do not smoke a whole joint over the course of one session or even a day. for me, 2-3 hits out of my pipe is more than enough

    as long as you're not an addict, weed is fine and is soooo UNLIKE all the other real drugs out there, i hardly even consider it a drug. For instance, the 5 pills of ecstasy i took last night put me through the fucking ringer... i dont even feel like myself today... now thats a drug you dont want to abuse

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    what the hell does that mean? are you shocked that i live in Weho and am a Laker fan? Should i go for the Clips?
  • gjoseph

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    Jan 02, 2009 1:47 AM GMT
    It is time for legalization =)

    Hmm it must be interesting working out while on cloud 9
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    Jan 02, 2009 2:37 AM GMT
    Inhaling intensely heated air can interfer with oxygen exchange in the lungs, so inhaling intensly heated air containing any chemicals could not be any better. I would think a person that was concerned about their athletic performance would find this undesirable. As mentioned earlier, there are ways to enjoy the effects of pot without having to smoke it(If you enjoy the effects..many people do not). Oral ingestion of cooked products would probably be the safest although the effects would not be as immediate(I recommend adding the pot to hot melted caramels and making popcorn balls as it cools). In that case I would consider vaporizing. I smoked a hell of a lot of weed in my teens and twenties(not to mention other contraband:winkicon_smile.gif I think many of us would agree that pot can tend to make one lazy. And munchies don't always lead to healthy eating habits. I have not indulged in any mood altering chems since my early 30s. Just a lifestyle thing. As with anything else it is always a personal decision. If you enjoy working out stoned then more power to ya! Pot smokers tend to be rather mellow fellows, as it were.
    Silly humor:
    3 guys come upon a locked door. One of the guys is drunk on alcohol. One is tripping on L.S.D. and the other is stoned on weed. The drunk thinks the best thing to do is tear the damn door apart in order to get through. The guy on acid decides he should sit and just drift through the keyhole in a puff of smoke. But the guy stoned on weed decides the best thing to do is sit and wait for someone to come along with the key...
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    Jan 02, 2009 2:55 AM GMT
    rankoutsider saidI would think a person that was concerned about their athletic performance would find this undesirable.


    while smoking weed is unlikely to improve athletic performance, i think most potheads would say that the benefits of smoking weed (mind-enhancement, creativity, etc.) far out weights the incremental negative performance effects
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    Jan 02, 2009 3:03 AM GMT
    If one considers himself a serious athlete he wouldn't consider weed.

    I could mix oil and water together but why?
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    Jan 02, 2009 3:11 AM GMT
    Hunter9 said
    rankoutsider saidI would think a person that was concerned about their athletic performance would find this undesirable.


    while smoking weed is unlikely to improve athletic performance, i think most potheads would say that the benefits of smoking weed (mind-enhancement, creativity, etc.) far out weights the incremental negative performance effects


    Well, duh. Your given this-you give up that. I'm not a pothead(anymore), but I now have other behaivors that would cause negative effects on my performance(esp diet) and I accept this trade off. But I am past the point of worrying much about top performance