Senator Elizabeth Warren: new book 'A Fighting Chance'

  • metta

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    Apr 27, 2014 1:13 AM GMT
    Elizabeth Warren Reveals Why She Wrote Her Book

    "It's an appeal to all Americans to get up, go out and take back their government."


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/26/elizabeth-warren-book_n_5215944.html

    Listen to the prologue of “A Fighting Chance” below. Audio courtesy of Macmillan Audio.
    https://soundcloud.com/macaudio-2/a-fighting-chance-by-elizabeth-warren-prologue


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    A Fighting Chance
    http://www.amazon.com/A-Fighting-Chance-Elizabeth-Warren/dp/1427239169
  • tj85016

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    Apr 27, 2014 7:49 AM GMT
    I love her, she reminds me of Sen Bill Bradley of NJ (and former NY Knick and Princeton forward)
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    Apr 27, 2014 12:50 PM GMT
    I will pass on prissy lefties from Massachusetts thanks lol
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    Apr 27, 2014 12:56 PM GMT
    WickedRyan saidI will pass on prissy lefties from Massachusetts thanks lol

    In favor of thuggish righties from red states?
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    Apr 27, 2014 1:41 PM GMT
    her idea to have the post office offer pay day loans is brilliant - the post office needs new revenue streams and low income folks need a break on exorbitant rates charged by the regular pay day loan sharks icon_idea.gif

    I like her all the way around too - i like thoughtful honest people in either political party.

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    Apr 27, 2014 2:00 PM GMT
    Mme. Robespierre-Warren.

    Here's a gem of ignorance from the Lady:

    "Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea? God bless. Keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along."

    I wonder if she has ever talked to a "factory owner"?

    And this is the doozy: "Part of the underlying social contract..." She really does pull it out of her ass - and her clueless supporters jizz themselves. She's brilliant.
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    Apr 27, 2014 2:23 PM GMT
    peterstrong said her idea to have the post office offer pay day loans is brilliant - the post office needs new revenue streams and low income folks need a break on exorbitant rates charged by the regular pay day loan sharks icon_idea.gif

    I like her all the way around too - i like thoughtful honest people in either political party.



    Really? You find that to be her most impressive idea?
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    Apr 27, 2014 2:26 PM GMT
    I like Elizabeth Warren but she sounds just like Obama before he was elected.

    Great ideas but when it comes to the crunch they don't/can't do jack shit under the current system.

    Politicians are all full of empty promises.
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    Apr 27, 2014 2:47 PM GMT
    whateveryo saidI like Elizabeth Warren but she sounds just like Obama before he was elected.

    Great ideas but when it comes to the crunch they don't/can't do jack shit under the current system.

    Politicians are all full of empty promises.


    No, she has no great ideas. She plays on ignorance of economics and the real world. Here's a layman's version of a typical Warren screed:



    I thought this woman was joking at first, but I don't think so. No one could make this up.
  • metta

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    Apr 27, 2014 2:55 PM GMT
    whateveryo saidI like Elizabeth Warren but she sounds just like Obama before he was elected.

    Great ideas but when it comes to the crunch they don't/can't do jack shit under the current system.

    Politicians are all full of empty promises.


    The system was never designed for 1 person to be able to change it. It takes many people. The only potential way to get the politicians to change it for the better is to put enough influence/pressure on enough of them to change it. I think that is the point of the book. We need more people in office that want to change the system for the better. Because it is not working the way it is. It is important to support the people that are really trying to make it better and we need to vote out the people that don't.

    If you wanted to change the system for the better, how would you effectively go about doing that?
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    Apr 27, 2014 3:05 PM GMT
    I guess she's harking back to her "Native American" roots with that title. To my mind, she's as phony as they come.
  • peterstrong

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    Apr 27, 2014 3:14 PM GMT
    Republican Lincoln ended slavery
    Republican Teddy Roosevelt got kids out of factories, started the national parks, and stood up to standard oil and the monopoly railroads of those days.
    Republican Eisenhower started the Arctic wildlife refuge, made blacks equal in the military and warned against the military industrial complex.
    Republican Nixon started the EPA.
    Republican GHBush had honest folks at EPA and Interior and got 500K allied troops to retake Kuwait from Saddam Hussein.

    Republicans Reagan and GWBush

    "ran the car in the ditch"

    I wish the republican party could rebuild some thoughtful and honest leaders, such as the ones they used to have.

    And yes factory owners didn't get to where they got without public financed school system, public financed roads, public financed fire dept. etc etc etc etc

    and yes of course Govt. is full of useless bureaucrats too, a lot of government is a different type of welfare system, esp. the current crop of republican congress people.


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    Apr 27, 2014 3:24 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidSenator Elizabeth Warren: new book 'A Fighting Chance'

    Another snake oil salesman (saleswoman in this case). So much for "sharing one's wealth" - which is something all of us can do in many ways besides just surrendering it to the Federal government via taxes:

    One-percenter Liz Warren milks system then slams it in phony soundbites

    While U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren sleeps in her $5 million mansion in Cambridge, and got paid $350,000 to teach just one class at Harvard, she had the audacity to say in an interview with Jon Stewart this week that “the system is rigged to benefit the rich.”

    Yes, Sen. Warren, that would be you. Under a free-market, capitalist system, you became a U.S. senator and multimillionaire whose own net worth hovers around $14.5 million, according to personal financial disclosure reports filed in 2011.

    Newsflash for Warren: With that kind of cash, you are a one-percenter! That very demographic you vilified and campaigned against.


    http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/adriana_cohen/2014/04/cohen_one_percenter_liz_warren_milks_system_then_slams


    The charge of hypocrisy doesn't resonate with white Liberals like Warren. The whole point of the entire Leftist project is that the experts and academics should be in charge, because they supposedly know better than anyone else, and believe that they can mold and shape society according to their wishes. Of course they should be well recompensed.

    This is what Hayek called "The Fatal Conceit." It truly is a conceit, and has proven to be fatal over and over.
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    Apr 27, 2014 3:30 PM GMT
    peterstrong said



    "And yes factory owners didn't get to where they got without public financed school system, public financed roads, public financed fire dept. etc etc etc etc"



    No kidding. And "factory owners" don't dispute this. They already "pay their fair share." They pay taxes, don't they?

    Warren's now infamous speech (which was staged in someone's home to look like a spontaneous, grass-roots event) was given in the wake of the financial crisis. What the hell did "factory owners" have to do with that mess? Nothing.

    But Warren was playing on the emotionalism of her ignorant hearers.

    Oh, but she's so brave. I would dare her to give the same talk to an actual gathering of "factory owners."
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    Apr 27, 2014 3:55 PM GMT
    peterstrong said her idea to have the post office offer pay day loans is brilliant - the post office needs new revenue streams and low income folks need a break on exorbitant rates charged by the regular pay day loan sharks icon_idea.gif

    I like her all the way around too - i like thoughtful honest people in either political party.



    Totally. Cause if lying about being a Native American to get a job doesn't just scream "honesty," I don't know what does!
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    Apr 27, 2014 4:04 PM GMT
    She's awesome!

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    Apr 27, 2014 4:08 PM GMT
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    southbeach1500 saidSenator Elizabeth Warren: new book 'A Fighting Chance'

    Another snake oil salesman (saleswoman in this case). So much for "sharing one's wealth" - which is something all of us can do in many ways besides just surrendering it to the Federal government via taxes:

    One-percenter Liz Warren milks system then slams it in phony soundbites

    While U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren sleeps in her $5 million mansion in Cambridge, and got paid $350,000 to teach just one class at Harvard, she had the audacity to say in an interview with Jon Stewart this week that “the system is rigged to benefit the rich.”

    Yes, Sen. Warren, that would be you. Under a free-market, capitalist system, you became a U.S. senator and multimillionaire whose own net worth hovers around $14.5 million, according to personal financial disclosure reports filed in 2011.

    Newsflash for Warren: With that kind of cash, you are a one-percenter! That very demographic you vilified and campaigned against.


    http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/adriana_cohen/2014/04/cohen_one_percenter_liz_warren_milks_system_then_slams


    The charge of hypocrisy doesn't resonate with white Liberals like Warren. The whole point of the entire Leftist project is that the experts and academics should be in charge, because they supposedly know better than anyone else, and believe that they can mold and shape society according to their wishes. Of course they should be well recompensed.

    This is what Hayek called "The Fatal Conceit." It truly is a conceit, and has proven to be fatal over and over.


    Why do republicans always say "white liberals"? It's like they think we're traitors to their psychotic white supremacist movement.

    Which I suppose we are, and I feel great about that!
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    Apr 27, 2014 5:04 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidI love her, she reminds me of Sen Bill Bradley of NJ (and former NY Knick and Princeton forward)

    The author of the abominable Bradley Amendment? Yeah, that's a great person to resemble...
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 27, 2014 5:14 PM GMT
    Well Elizabeth Warren is definitely the lesser of two evils when compared to that hapless Hillary ho.
  • metta

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    Apr 27, 2014 5:31 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidSenator Elizabeth Warren: new book 'A Fighting Chance'

    Another snake oil salesman (saleswoman in this case). So much for "sharing one's wealth" - which is something all of us can do in many ways besides just surrendering it to the Federal government via taxes:

    One-percenter Liz Warren milks system then slams it in phony soundbites

    While U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren sleeps in her $5 million mansion in Cambridge, and got paid $350,000 to teach just one class at Harvard, she had the audacity to say in an interview with Jon Stewart this week that “the system is rigged to benefit the rich.”

    Yes, Sen. Warren, that would be you. Under a free-market, capitalist system, you became a U.S. senator and multimillionaire whose own net worth hovers around $14.5 million, according to personal financial disclosure reports filed in 2011.

    Newsflash for Warren: With that kind of cash, you are a one-percenter! That very demographic you vilified and campaigned against.


    http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/adriana_cohen/2014/04/cohen_one_percenter_liz_warren_milks_system_then_slams



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    Silly article. Most people don't care if people are wealthy. Good for her in making money. People are not fighting against people becoming wealthy....Warren even stated this. They care about the misuse of power that some people use because they are wealthy. And yes, it currently takes tons of money to get into power. But we need to put people in these positions that want to make the necessary changes. And Warren is one of these people. We need a lot more people like her in office to make the changes that need to happen. It does not make her phony. How else can we change the system?
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    Apr 27, 2014 6:28 PM GMT
    If I didn't know anything about Elizabeth Warren's political views, the mean-spirited nature of the attacks against her here would be enough to convince me she deserves my support.
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    Apr 27, 2014 6:52 PM GMT
    shortbutsweet saidIf I didn't know anything about Elizabeth Warren's political views, the mean-spirited nature of the attacks against her here would be enough to convince me she deserves my support.


    Using that logic, you'd have been G. W. Bush's campaign manager.
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    Apr 27, 2014 7:02 PM GMT
    ^^^ I don't support mean-spirited attacks, regardless of which side of the aisle they originate from.

    But I'm sure you understand the point is that your power to persuade independent people is greatly diminished when you attack the person more than her ideas.
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    Apr 27, 2014 7:06 PM GMT
    shortbutsweet said^^^ I don't support mean-spirited attacks, regardless of which side of the aisle they originate from.

    But I'm sure you understand the point is that your power to persuade independent people is greatly diminished when you attack the person more than her ideas.


    Certainly, but the Democrats abandoned that basic tenet of civility when they adopted Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" as their playbook.
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    Apr 27, 2014 7:11 PM GMT
    shortbutsweet said^^^ I don't support mean-spirited attacks, regardless of which side of the aisle they originate from.

    But I'm sure you understand the point is that your power to persuade independent people is greatly diminished when you attack the person more than her ideas.


    Hear, hear!

    Ad hominem attacks always clearly show how untenable the attacker's position truly is.