DO YOU THINK ITS RUDE TO WEAR HATS INSIDE? WHY AND WHY NOT?

  • MartinMPL

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    Apr 27, 2014 6:47 AM GMT
  • HndsmKansan

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    Apr 27, 2014 12:06 PM GMT
    Depends on the venue. If you walk in to a JCJenney store or a convenience store, I doubt if most would consider it the least bit rude. If you go to church, maybe. But saying that, we have several older women who pride themselves on wearing their hats during the service. Everybody sees what they are wearing when they go up for Communion.
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    Apr 27, 2014 12:08 PM GMT
    i don't think it's rude because there's such a thing as individual expression
  • jaroslav123

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    Apr 27, 2014 12:20 PM GMT
    No. It's not offensive. And if you say it is, and when asked to explain why you'll just say "because it's the done thing" - which isn't an answer.

    It's rude to not say "please" and "thank-you" (or speak in a considerate way) to a waiter/waitress who's working really hard to serve you and provide you with good service. It's rude (or rather ignorant) to not listen to someone's opinion. It's rude to kick someone in the face.

    It is not rude to wear an item of clothing on your head when surrounded by an architectural structure which consists of a ceiling to provide shelter from the outdoors. Take a step back and think about this...to say that to wear a hat indoors is 'rude' makes no fucking logical sense. And then the fact that there's a sub-clause to this unwritten rule: it's rude for a man to wear a hat in doors, but not for a woman. What is this nonsensicalness.

    But then again...the whole concept of 'rudeness' could be considered all just exaggerated social convention. Let's not use the term. Just be yourself and don't be violent.

    Rant over.
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    Apr 27, 2014 12:26 PM GMT
    I was taught not to wear a hat at table while eating. Exceptions would be an outdoor picnic table, and a lunch counter. Even the counter could be inappropriate, if there were hat racks available.
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    Apr 27, 2014 12:44 PM GMT
    Yes men traditionally remove their hats when they enter a building.But since parents have been getting worse and worse for the last 25 or so years I doubt todays young people even know this.Manners have become as obsolete as VCRs.I am glad I grew up when I did.
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    Apr 27, 2014 12:47 PM GMT
    In response to the sexy guy from Kansas.Christian men always go bareheaded into church while women are permitted to wear hats or do so by tradition.There was a time when all Catholic women covered their head during mass.It faded in the late 1960's But with the return of the old Latin Mass it is making a comeback with some young Catholics.icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 27, 2014 12:49 PM GMT
    If this person is calling women "rude ass fucking bitches" he has way bigger issues than whether to wear a hat indoors.Obviously his father did not take off his belt enough lol Ry
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    Apr 27, 2014 1:06 PM GMT
    I think manners still are used they're just different now. I was taught if someone is not causing any harm to anyone then let them be and people wearing things on THEIR heads whether or not it's a beanie hat, cap, turban or burka doesn't bother me. I believe in rules both written and unwritten but I don't agree with rules for rules sake like not wearing hats.
  • jaroslav123

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    Apr 27, 2014 1:16 PM GMT
    WickedRyan saidYes men traditionally remove their hats when they enter a building.But since parents have been getting worse and worse for the last 25 or so years I doubt todays young people even know this.Manners have become as obsolete as VCRs.I am glad I grew up when I did.


    You're right. I never say please or thank-you, I'm never nice to people, I graffiti walls whenever I can, and I take every opportunity I can to punch someone in the face. Last week, I started a food-fight. Then the week before that I dunked my bread in my soup whilst simultaneously eating a cake with a fish-fork. God forbid, I don't even like the queen and I'm not proud of my country. Morality and manners are totally dead. God help the youth of today which I'm part of. It's all my parents fault no doubt, they taught me to fart at the dinner table, gargle water after consuming it, say profanities in front of children. In fact, every single parent is like this nowadays which is why every single young person is like this nowadays. God I hate young people and the youth of today. I might as well just massacre myself and my whole generation, then there'd by no more young people to experience life on this planet and the world would be a better place because obviously every single young person is a dire dire individual because they don't have manners, they're violent, consume drugs, and the worst crime of all - probably bigger crime than cannibalisation - they wear hats in doors.
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    Apr 27, 2014 1:20 PM GMT
    jaroslav123 said
    WickedRyan saidYes men traditionally remove their hats when they enter a building.But since parents have been getting worse and worse for the last 25 or so years I doubt todays young people even know this.Manners have become as obsolete as VCRs.I am glad I grew up when I did.


    You're right. I never say please or thank-you, I'm never nice to people, I graffiti walls whenever I can, and I take every opportunity I can to punch someone in the face. Last week, I started a food-fight. Then the week before that I dunked my bread in my soup whilst simultaneously eating a cake with a fish-fork. God forbid, I don't even like the queen and I'm not proud of my country. Morality and manners are totally dead. God help the youth of today which I'm part of. I might as well just massacre myself.


    Overkill but true there's clearly no hope for us lol.

    I started off wearing hats in doors but it was a slippy slope that lead to class A drugs! icon_razz.gif
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    Apr 27, 2014 1:22 PM GMT
    Danny_boy93 said
    jaroslav123 said
    WickedRyan saidYes men traditionally remove their hats when they enter a building.But since parents have been getting worse and worse for the last 25 or so years I doubt todays young people even know this.Manners have become as obsolete as VCRs.I am glad I grew up when I did.


    You're right. I never say please or thank-you, I'm never nice to people, I graffiti walls whenever I can, and I take every opportunity I can to punch someone in the face. Last week, I started a food-fight. Then the week before that I dunked my bread in my soup whilst simultaneously eating a cake with a fish-fork. God forbid, I don't even like the queen and I'm not proud of my country. Morality and manners are totally dead. God help the youth of today which I'm part of. I might as well just massacre myself.


    Overkill but true there's clearly no hope for us lol.

    I started off wearing hats in doors but it was a slippy slope that lead to class A drugs! icon_razz.gif


    Yesterday I wore a fez, and now I'm part of the ghetto and up for murder.

    Oh...and I like Jonathan Swift...he does the whole exaggeration thing.
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    Apr 27, 2014 1:42 PM GMT
    I don't understand why it's considered a rude thing to do to wear hats indoors. I can see why it might be redundant. But not necessarily rude.

    And George Carlin made a good point about groups doing completely different things. Jewish men need to cover their heads in synagogue, women don't. Women cover their heads but men don't in Islam and some Christian traditions. "Somebody's got the whole f$&@ing thing backwards."

    It is one of those arbitrary rules of society I really just can't stand. I'm an artist, damn it. I'm eccentric and different. And it's not like it ever did anyone harm. What's the Wiccan mantra? "An it harm none, do what ye will."

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    Apr 27, 2014 2:14 PM GMT
    If it's a fashionable hat that's part of your look, then I think that's absolutely fine. If it's a hat you've worn to keep warm when you're outside in the cold weather, then I'd expect you to take it off when you're indoors. Unless you're not stopping.
    If you're wearing a ridiculously big hat that's getting in people's way and becoming an inconvenience to others around you, then you should probably remove it.
  • peterstrong

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    Apr 27, 2014 2:44 PM GMT

    we shake hands to show we don't have a gun in them,

    we say " cheers " (in older times u were supposed to spill your drink into each others to prove u had not added poison to his drink)

    we say " bless you " when someone sneezes because the sneeze was an opportunity for evil spirits to enter. And " knock on wood " was a thank you to good spirits for protecting you.

    the size of rail lines were factored on horse drawn wagon wheels


    etc. etc. etc. etc.

    I agree saying wearing a hat indoors is rude is stupid and archaic, but some traditions and superstitions die hard : )

    all that said, it was sweet to learn about people hiding diseases or sticking guns or such in their hats from such a cute messenger icon_wink.gif

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    Apr 27, 2014 3:01 PM GMT
    I've found that it's not the wearing of the hat indoors that is rude, but usually the wearer.

    Unusual wearer: Tiger Woods once visited our club and wore a baseball cap in the jacuzzi. I smiled at him and yelled in a tone of false anger, "Get that hat off in my jacuzzi!" and he laughed and readily complied. We had a brief chat and then he went on to win the US Open. And, he was by no means rude!
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    Apr 27, 2014 3:10 PM GMT
    Danny_boy93 saidi don't think it's rude because there's such a thing as individual expression


    I agree. Unless someone is trying to push it onto me, its none of my business.
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    Apr 27, 2014 3:19 PM GMT
    I'm a big fan of a ball cap on the weekends.
    I tidy up all week long. On Sat. and Sunday, unless we're going somewhere that requires nicer attire, I prefer to cover my horse hair, even in casual restaurants.
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    Apr 27, 2014 3:33 PM GMT
    I tend to survey surroundings
    make a choice of it people care and people don't
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    Apr 27, 2014 3:38 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidDepends on the venue. If you walk in to a JCJenney store or a convenience store, I doubt if most would consider it the least bit rude. If you go to church, maybe. But saying that, we have several older women who pride themselves on wearing their hats during the service. Everybody sees what they are wearing when they go up for Communion.

    Of course back in the day, women wore hats in church to cover their heads, out of respect for God, before going to the altar. It was considered the appropriate action of a woman (very sexist).

    My rule of thumb is that if it's a public building, OK to wear a hat, private home, not OK. Restaurant, not OK. Church, not OK. Elevator, OK.

    Common sense, use manners. There are a lot of historical manners that were set years ago and change over time. If you're older, you probably grew up with some and still feel strongly about them. If you're younger, you might not even know of their existence. That doesn't mean young people are ruder than old, it's a different life experience. I personally see many older guys being inconsiderate and lack manners and young guys the opposite but it works both ways.

    The days of a standard set of rules is diminishing but there are those left that do make sense, such as please and thank you, opening the door for someone, help an elderly person, etc but I don't put wearing a hat as nearly important.
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    Apr 27, 2014 4:46 PM GMT
    But haven't you ever thought about the reasons why some people wear hats inside? Yeah, I know that according to etiquette men should take their hats off, but what if somebody has reasons not to take them off? As for me, I have to wear sunglasses everywhere, and I'm sick and tired of people who always say that it is not etiquette. I'm talking about Russia, not about the States.( I'm living in Russia, unfortunately).. I had an operation on my eyes, so my doc said that I have to wear sunglasses not to lose my eyesight. I have been listening negative opinions from lots of people and I can't do anything with it. So maybe a person wearing a hat, has some problems with hair, or something else? I think that all the people from all over the world shouldn't to be so angry with it. If a person doesn't take off a hat, so another should ask that person why doesn't she or he take off a hat, and then to think after getting answer. If the answer seems like "I like my hat so I won't take it off" or smth like this, you can definitely say that the person had not so good upbringing. If you get a really serious reason for having a hat, just stoop to it. It's my opinion..
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    Apr 27, 2014 5:01 PM GMT
    It depends on where your at. I had a friend who worked at a bank, and they were trained to be on the look out for people who walked in wearing hats. If you walk into a government building wearing a hat, you'll be asked to take it off.

    The reason being, you may be a criminal attempting to hide identifiable traits. i.e. hair color, texture.

    At bars, or a friends social event, keep the lid on; the same goes for sporting events.
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    Apr 27, 2014 5:13 PM GMT
    You know, I just had 2 AC guys out here to check on an AC unit that was acting up.
    One guy was about my age and the other clearly in his 20s.
    Both had on Ball caps and I'm sure it's what helps them do their work out in the sun.
    I didn't think twice when they didn't take their hats off when coming inside to go through the attic.
    It's kinda like the sandals thread we had a while back.
    Some guys hate that in public and others are used to seeing it in warmer climates.
    Now, I agree, if it were church or someone's dinner in their home or a nice restaurant then hats come off or usually your hair is clean enough that you don't need a hat.
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    Apr 27, 2014 5:29 PM GMT
    That's basically correct; especially, in a restaurant.
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    Apr 27, 2014 5:33 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidI was taught not to wear a hat at table while eating. Exceptions would be an outdoor picnic table, and a lunch counter. Even the counter could be inappropriate, if there were hat racks available.


    One was also taught the same thing. But like holding the Sabbath holy, thats just another rule/tradition that has become obsolete. Albeit one will take a hat off, I'll keep a cap on; there is a difference.