The only masc. guy left?

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    Jan 01, 2009 11:49 PM GMT
    Before I get started... I just want to let ya'll know that I'm not trying to offend anyone. It's just an observation and a preference. Take it with a grain of salt.


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    So I've been out and about for a while now and noticed there's pretty much... two types of gay man around california: The Twink or the Old Skeezer. They're both pretty fem. and think that blowing kisses and dancing like a chick are going to turn me on and make me want to talk..... right.

    So my question goes out there- Am I the only masculine guy out there who does normal guy things, sounds like a man, walks like a man, dresses like a man, and is capable of loving another man?

    So far, it's like I'm a one of a kind, and it's starting to get lonely out here! hah

    Anyhow, thanks for reading this. Keep your head up and stay say out there.
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    Jan 02, 2009 12:19 AM GMT

    Hey kaicho,

    Welcome to RJ - there's lots of guys here of a lot of 'types', and we think you'll find that the "normal guy things, sounds like a man, walks like a man, dresses like a man, and is capable of loving another man" type has lots of close friends and acquaintances of the "The Twink or the Old Skeezer" type, and that a lot of the time you'll find different combinations of all the above.

    So we're guessing that "So far, it's like I'm a one of a kind, and it's starting to get lonely out here!" could be swiftly overcome by broadening them horizons icon_wink.gifand making friends with all of the above, and you never know. icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 02, 2009 2:01 AM GMT
    lilTanker, you made me smile.
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    Jan 02, 2009 2:10 AM GMT
    kaicho saidSo my question goes out there- Am I the only masculine guy out there who does normal guy things, sounds like a man, walks like a man, dresses like a man, and is capable of loving another man?
    Yep. You are the only one.
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    Jan 02, 2009 2:11 AM GMT
    lilTanker said
    In the video they may walk like a man .. but they are also dancing like a white boy as the saying goes.
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    Jan 02, 2009 2:15 AM GMT
    kaicho saidthere's pretty much... two types of gay man around california: The Twink or the Old Skeezer. They're both pretty fem.


    Hmmm. * scratches chin *

    California probably has more gay guys than any other state, and my personal experience is exactly the opposite of yours. I've found every type of guy imaginable here.

    Just curious where you've been in the state, and what particular types of places you meet guys at that causes you to reach that conclusion.

    I suspect that something is seriously amiss with either your approach to meeting guys or with your travel itinerary.
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    Jan 02, 2009 2:26 AM GMT
    Well they're the only kind you SEE because, if they're like you, I'm assuming you wouldn't be able to tell that they are gay...
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    Jan 02, 2009 2:38 AM GMT
    Is it possible that the problem is your own notion of what constitutes the appearance of masculinity?

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    Jan 02, 2009 2:46 AM GMT
    My Mum told me that I'm special too...

    ...just like everyone else.
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    Jan 02, 2009 2:47 AM GMT
    ObsceneWish saidIs it possible that the problem is your own notion of what constitutes the appearance of masculinity?

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    Jan 02, 2009 2:56 AM GMT
    Maybe it's time to look for guys outside of the club scene? You might find a variety of men that are to your liking?

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    Jan 02, 2009 3:04 AM GMT
    Do some research, perhaps? Find bars/clubs where there are crowds of men of your liking.

    Nothing wrong with dancing like a chick when you're drunk.

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    Jan 02, 2009 3:11 AM GMT
    yes, you're the only one. icon_rolleyes.gif





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    Jan 02, 2009 3:28 AM GMT
    No, you're not the only one. I'm the same way. Can't find anyone! Here in Atlanta I have to wait til I'm 21 to go out to clubs though... so it's pretty hard for me. If I were you i'd do some research. Usually you can find comments people in your area have left on websites regarding various clubs and the people they contain.
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    Jan 02, 2009 3:33 AM GMT
    ... yes, let's go ahead and dig into my profile and bring up halloween pictures.

    It's not MY notion of masculinity, it's the socially coined view of masculinity. The gender specific habits/actions, etc. that allow people to identify one another as a male/female. I'm not saying there's something WRONG with it... just that it doesn't work for me.



    Aside from that, i've been to LA to SF and spots in between so it's not really a lack of experiences. I mean, let me back track a second... the people I've met were all nice people up front. They really were/are. Just not my type, and the majority of them only want that stereotypical one-nighter anyhow. That's the part that fails, and is not what i'm looking for at all.

    I should have known better than to post something online to a bunch of gay men, in hopes of getting feedback along the lines of "hey, i'm a masc. male, i'm near you, let's go to lunch"....

    And, in fairness I did state that I wasn't trying to offend anyone before the body of the post.... yet some people seem to be offended (no names).

    Either way, have fun diggin at me. :
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    Jan 02, 2009 3:52 AM GMT
    Well Kaicho, when you make sweeping generalizations such as:

    "So I've been out and about for a while now and noticed there's pretty much... two types of gay man around california: The Twink or the Old Skeezer. They're both pretty fem. and think that blowing kisses and dancing like a chick are going to turn me on and make me want to talk..... right."

    And then you go on to say:

    "I should have known better than to post something online to a bunch of gay men, in hopes of getting feedback along the lines of "hey, i'm a masc. male, i'm near you, let's go to lunch".... "

    Honestly, did you think you were going to win the masses over right after insulting an entire state? I understand you may not have meant to insult anyone, and it was probably funnier and more clever in your head, but the fact is, sweeping generalizations like this are almost always going to get the reactions you got.

    FYI: I live in LA, CA. I am 42 and am neither a twink nor a "skeezer". I do not know where you hang out or where you go to try to meet guys, but I know literally hundreds of gay men. Very few are twinks or skeezers.

    So, if your intention really was to meet people here and not insult anyone, perhaps you should have thought your rant through a little further before posting it to the world. Because it seems to me you've managed to alienate the entire gay population of California.

    Best of luck to you though!icon_cool.gif
  • Delivis

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    Jan 02, 2009 3:58 AM GMT
    i'm pretty much the same way, masculine attracted to masculinity.
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    Jan 02, 2009 4:04 AM GMT
    kaicho said
    And, in fairness I did state that I wasn't trying to offend anyone before the body of the post.... yet some people seem to be offended (no names).

    Either way, have fun diggin at me. :


    this is an internet forum; at least one person will be offended by every single thing you say... even if what they're offended by, you didn't ever actually say. lol

    thick skin, kid! thick skin.

    I pose you the question: if you see a masculine gay guy who is non-stereotypical, how would you recognize him? chances are, you seem them every day, you just don't notice. all us masculine gay guys go through the phase where they think they're the only masculine gay guy who exists. you'll get over it eventually.
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    Jan 02, 2009 4:08 AM GMT
    I put a disclaimer in there!

    Before I get started... I just want to let ya'll know that I'm not trying to offend anyone. It's just an observation and a preference. Take it with a grain of salt.


    And yeah, it probably didn't come out as I wanted.... that's fine.

    To me, Twink = the younger guys around who are very...young looking. (no insult/offense there, just not for me)

    and Skeezer = the much much older men who stalk the shadows in the clubs etc. hunting for twinks and younger guys (which seems really out of place).

    If you haven't met/seen any of these two types, then I guess we view california differently. I've only been here for 5 and a half years, so maybe that's it? Either way, I suppose this will be my last response to this topic. I'll better prepare myself next time I decide to post something on here.
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    Jan 02, 2009 4:16 AM GMT
    Kaicho......i walk like a man, talk like a man, do all the manly things that other str8 men do. I can compete with the straightest contractors/construction guys...do my own vehicle maintenance....play basketball, hockey and any and all outdoor sports. I just like to have sex with men....So to answer your question......No, you aren't the only masculine man out there that does man things. and as for the "old skeezer" comment. I don'tt take offense...I'm 51 and proud of it. I look better than alot of 25 year olds.....(if i'm gonna toot my own horn).....but I do understand where you are coming from icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 02, 2009 4:23 AM GMT
    Isn't one of you guys gonna have to be the chick thou? I mean masc and all that aside there are roles built into a relationship.. And how masc is it with your knees bent over some dudes shoulders taken it like a champ..

    Makes daddy proud.icon_neutral.gif

    Good looking, muscular, humourous, frat boy, jock type gay boys with a heart of gold don't just drop out of the sky onto your lap.. But good luck finding it.
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    Jan 02, 2009 4:25 AM GMT
    Yep, you're the only one. That's what happens when we live in a world that is indifferent to your experiences. icon_twisted.gif
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    Jan 02, 2009 4:25 AM GMT
    [cite]kaicho said[/cite]I put a disclaimer in there!


    lol... disclaimers are flame-war bait, man! icon_wink.gif because when you put in a disclaimer, what follows will likely be controversial.

    I suppose this will be my last response to this topic. I'll better prepare myself next time I decide to post something on here.


    it's always good to prepare. but no matter how prepared you are, someone will be offended. that is the nature of online forums -- where righteous indignation is king! even if your indignation is actually not righteous, but completely manufactured to cause conflict.

    (i'm definitely not immune to this. i try to restrain myself, but... it's like eating too many ice cream sandwiches -- you know you shouldn't, but sometimes you just have to.)
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    Jan 02, 2009 4:36 AM GMT
    Wait, so young and athletic aren't your type? I'm confused.