3 months of trying to gain weight left.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 29, 2014 2:09 PM GMT
    So my story in a short version, i started the whole gym training as a total newbie in July 2013, i have a personal trainer who is fantastic! He provides me with a food plan and workout plan and all that as got me where i am now, but.... i have decided to start stripping my fat off and me and my trainer have set July this year as my start time so i have roughly 3 months of trying to gain weight and size left.

    I have struggled to gain the weight i have already gained and really struggle to keep it on.

    Any ideas of simple things to do, snack on, or to do to get my size up in that short time.

    Got a thing for Tuna at the moment haha.

    By the way i ain't used to asking deep questions regarding this subject, my main talent is just commenting on others lol and apologies if i should have read through the forums for something like this but i wanted to write my info down.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 29, 2014 4:21 PM GMT
    Do you eat a lot of protein? I'm struggling to bulk up too but I have scrambled egg every day for breakfast or lunch and I always have fish or chicken for tea and I imagine because they're proteins they're doing some good.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 29, 2014 4:34 PM GMT
    Google carb cycling ;)
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 29, 2014 4:39 PM GMT
    thankyou will read into it know icon_smile.gif and yep i eat alot of it icon_smile.gif
  • MikeW

    Posts: 6061

    Apr 29, 2014 5:32 PM GMT
    I suggest you not think in terms of gaining "weight and size" -- I could do nothing but sit at my computer all day, eat a lot of junk food and gain 'weight and size'. I assume what you really want is to gain muscle and that's a complex proposition. If you're really pushing yourself at the gym *and eating healthy food, including the proteins you need* and getting the rest you need for them to grow, that's already pretty much all you can do. Short of juicing on steroids, anyway.

    Whatever you do, don't compare yourself to the jacked up body builders you see online or in magazines for two reasons: 1) it takes years to get that much mass because muscle grows relatively slowly and 2) many of the models *have* cycled steroids at one time or another. Exactly how long it will take you to reach your goals depends on a lot of variables, including genetics. The most important thing is to stick with it. If you want to go through bulking and shredding cycles, that's fine, but think of it *as* progressive cycles. It isn't like you're going to reach your genetic potential only after one year of working out. Three to five, maybe.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 29, 2014 6:31 PM GMT
    Thankyou Mike really good advice there icon_smile.gif yes i agree to all that and to be honest i never really compare my self to anyone in the gym haha just today i was mentioning to my trainer that when i look at others lads i can see faults in their shape etc what i wouldnt like to have lol i am pretty much comfortable with the way my body is and is turning out to be.

    I eat my protein rich food and the like but i wont drink anymore protein shakes as of about a month ago due to many reasons for example the cost also some personal and the fact that my doctor advised against using them. I look at the models of the Greeks etc and think they got big with out shakes so i surely can get close to the size i want to be icon_smile.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 29, 2014 6:50 PM GMT
    You're going through a typical bulk then cut phase.

    You could get endless advice on how to succeed at it, but your trainer should be able to provide you with the right meal plans for both parts of the phase in order for you to achieve the physique you want (or at least are able to achieve, based on where you are now and where you will be in 3 months). If your trainer can't give you the right plan, then he's probably not an effective trainer and it's definitely time to look for a new one. Not saying he is a bad trainer, just one that might not be a good fit for you. Also, remember to speak up if you feel a plan is not working for you, otherwise, it could be too far into a plan to make a recovery in time to meet your goals.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 29, 2014 6:54 PM GMT
    Protein shakes are just a quick and cheap way to consume protein. There are a lot of protein shakes that have been hyped up with big advertising spends, but a cheap whey or whey & casein mix is a damn good thing to use. Just think of them as a meal rather than a drink.

    I agree with Mike on being realistic about timescales. It does take time, and as long as you are moving in the right direction, you are doing fine. All you then do is play around with the intensity that you train with (most people I see don't train intensely), keep your form great so you can feel the tension in the muscle you are working, get good nutrition all the time, and sleep well. Whilst I am definitely not anti-steroids, you don't want to even consider them for another few years, as you are still learning how to stimulate your muscles and get your training intensity up.

    Doing huge bulks then cuts is counter productive IMO. Carb cycling should let you shed the fat and grow quality muscle.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 29, 2014 7:40 PM GMT
    Hey all thankyou for you replies im greatfull, yep your right my trainer is the one to guide me and in my opinion to be honest he is the only one i listen to as he as been fantastic and is always there with advice etc he is never a let down with information etc

    Yep there are also the many years ahead of me to get "big" and doing that the natural way.

    I am surprised at how far i have come in just under a year icon_lol.gif

    But it was worth while to throw it out there to see other peoples opinions on it.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 30, 2014 1:34 AM GMT
    If you eat more calories than you consume, you'll gain weight.

    If you eat fewer calories than you consume, you'll lose weight.

    If you eat the same amount of calories, and do the same amount of work, and stay in roughly the same mood...you'll stay the same (setpoint).

    Carbs are the critical component to any mass gaining program. They are your body's preferred source of energy; they bind with water (volumization / sarcoplasm), and they are protein sparing. Stable blood sugar levels are best to moderate insulin responses, but, some fast sugars help drive that insulin to your advantage and to drive appetite around blood sugar levels.

    Protein requirements vary depending upon who you talk to.

    You NEED poly and mono fats in your diet to protect your heart, and cardiovascular system, and so that your brain works better.

    Too much saturated fat will kill you.

    If you aren't gaining, eat more. That's simple.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Apr 30, 2014 12:59 PM GMT
    Thankyou !!
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    May 27, 2014 10:16 PM GMT
    Bulking is shit, all you can do is put on the most pleasing amount of muscle that you frame allows, mines fucking awful but I have to accept that.

    Actively trying to gain weight will give you a potato face (complete opposite of the masculine ideal of concave cheeks) and fat to hide whatever muscle definition you may have.

    It's a SCAM