Building a Better Bottom

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    Apr 29, 2014 7:00 PM GMT
    Let's face it. Guys aren't that good at sex. We didn't learn it in school. We don't like to talk about it. We hate having to prepare for it. We just know we want it.

    It's time to change all that. Time to create a generation of great fuckers. So, let's get started.

    Tops, what was the absolute best experience you've ever had with a bottom? What made your eyes pop out of your head with pleasure? What did he do that left you begging for more? How did he get you to shoot all over the ceiling? Was he masculine? Feminine? Aggressive? Passive? Did he have muscles in places you didn't know were places?

    In short, tops, what did the best bottom you've ever had do to thrill you?

    See also companion thread:
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3800822
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    Apr 29, 2014 7:00 PM GMT
    Yes, I know. This topic has been covered before. But I think we have much more to say. Here are some of the best old posts to get you started:

    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidBeing good at sex, regardless of sexual position, is basically getting in touch with your partner and knowing what he likes.

    No such thing as a universally wonderful bottom because everyone likes different types of bottoms.

    . . .

    Some people like power bottoms, others like submissive bottoms. I think the best sexual partners are those that receive sexual gratification from truly wanting to please their partner.

    But hey, everyone's different. icon_smile.gif

    lilTanker saidWhat is important is that you are attentive to your bottoms wants, that you listen to his cues and that you put as much effort into pleasing him as you do for your self, which, hopefully a good bottom will do the same.

    A Hidden/Deleted Member saidI want the bottom to enjoy it and if he is it makes me even harder. I also like the bottom to be an active partner. It is a turn-off to have a guy just lie there like a dead piece of meat especially if we are doing it doggie style, therefore, I can’t see his eyes. By active I mean for the bottom to do part of the fucking. The best fuck I have ever had was from a guy who moved his hips in such a way that he was fucking my dick with his ass.

    A Hidden/Deleted Member saidDon't be a better bottom, be a POWER BOTTOM! Work that booty! Practice kegels so you can milk it while you work it. Swing those hips and leave em breathless.

    DJ_Lauderdale said- One who can't seem to WAIT to get you inside him.
    - One who moves, thrashes around, grunts and moans.
    - One who stares at you with big wide eyes because he can't believe how big you are and how good you feel in him.
    - One who uses his eyes, mouth, and hands as much as his ass.
    - One who likes it slow and romantic one moment and then turns into a crazy animal the next, tossing the top onto his back and jumping aboard to take control.
    - One who smiles a lot while taking it like a good boy.

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    Apr 29, 2014 7:03 PM GMT
    nawww I got quoted icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 29, 2014 7:04 PM GMT
    There are top guys on this site? icon_eek.gif I thought that like 99.9% of dudes here were submissive girly twinks.
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    Apr 29, 2014 7:33 PM GMT
    lol
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    Apr 29, 2014 7:43 PM GMT
    My booty skills are pretty much complimented on. In fact many of the quotes stated is something I already do in bed.

    And people wonder why am I not in a porno...icon_lol.gif

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    Apr 29, 2014 7:44 PM GMT
    Fivealive saidMy booty skills are pretty much complimented on. In fact many of the quotes stated is something I already do in bed.

    And people wonder why am I not in a porno...icon_lol.gif



    Gasp! You're a top? icon_eek.gif
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    Apr 29, 2014 8:18 PM GMT
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    Fivealive saidMy booty skills are pretty much complimented on. In fact many of the quotes stated is something I already do in bed.

    And people wonder why am I not in a porno...icon_lol.gif



    Gasp! You're a top? icon_eek.gif


    No I'm a verse bottom. In fact I was flip fucking with a hotty last night.
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    Apr 29, 2014 8:22 PM GMT
    lilTanker saidnawww I got quoted icon_biggrin.gif

    Only the best fuckers get quoted here. Any other words of wisdom?
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    Apr 29, 2014 8:23 PM GMT
    xavier92 saidThere are top guys on this site? icon_eek.gif I thought that like 99.9% of dudes here were submissive girly twinks.


    The more and more you post I'm reminded of that kiwilifter guy and his sock account...
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    Apr 29, 2014 8:24 PM GMT
    Kuestion said
    xavier92 saidThere are top guys on this site? icon_eek.gif I thought that like 99.9% of dudes here were submissive girly twinks.


    The more and more you post I'm reminded of that kiwilifter guy and his sock account...


    If you pay like 5 bucks, I can give you a few classes of internet sarcasm.
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    Apr 29, 2014 8:25 PM GMT
    xavier92 said
    Kuestion said
    xavier92 saidThere are top guys on this site? icon_eek.gif I thought that like 99.9% of dudes here were submissive girly twinks.


    The more and more you post I'm reminded of that kiwilifter guy and his sock account...


    If you pay like 5 bucks, I can give you a few classes of internet sarcasm.


    From you? No thanks!
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    Apr 29, 2014 8:32 PM GMT
    shortbutsweet said
    Tops, what was the absolute best experience you've ever had with a bottom? What made your eyes pop out of your head with pleasure? What did he do that left you begging for more? How did he get you to shoot all over the ceiling? Was he masculine? Feminine? Aggressive? Passive? Did he have muscles in places you didn't know were places?

    In short, tops, what did the best bottom you've ever had do to thrill you?

    No offense but this thread dont make much sense. What tops want in a bottom totally depends on who the top is, so your questions could never be answered objectively.
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    Apr 29, 2014 8:37 PM GMT
    ^^^ It's not meant to be answered objectively.

    The point is not for a bottom to develop a handful of skills that will please every top. As you agree -- and as the first two posts I quoted suggest -- that is not possible. But a good bottom has many skills and uses the ones that will please the top he's with right now.

    Before he can do that, he has to get a taste for what a wide range of tops like, which is the point of this thread.

    I would expect most of the replies to begin, "What really turns me on is when a bottom . . . "
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    Apr 29, 2014 8:38 PM GMT
    Kuestion said
    xavier92 said
    Kuestion said
    xavier92 saidThere are top guys on this site? icon_eek.gif I thought that like 99.9% of dudes here were submissive girly twinks.


    The more and more you post I'm reminded of that kiwilifter guy and his sock account...


    If you pay like 5 bucks, I can give you a few classes of internet sarcasm.


    From you? No thanks!


    D'awww... Now I feel bad. I was a bit harsh. I'm sorry.
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    Apr 29, 2014 8:39 PM GMT
    Kuestion said
    Kuestion said
    xavier92 said
    Kuestion said
    xavier92 saidThere are top guys on this site? icon_eek.gif I thought that like 99.9% of dudes here were submissive girly twinks.


    The more and more you post I'm reminded of that kiwilifter guy and his sock account...


    If you pay like 5 bucks, I can give you a few classes of internet sarcasm.


    From you? No thanks!


    D'awww... Now I feel bad. I was a bit harsh. I'm sorry.


    lol Don't worry. A lot of people think I'm a sock. Ironically, I'm verified. icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 30, 2014 6:44 AM GMT
    shortbutsweet said
    lilTanker saidnawww I got quoted icon_biggrin.gif

    Only the best fuckers get quoted here. Any other words of wisdom?


    Well my advice is more for tops.. Bring it.. Don't pussy foot around and ask permission to do stuff just do it and be confident about it. No need to be gentle and sweet.

    For bottoms though, push back, let him know what you want as well, tell him, direct him, push him into position. A good top should be paying attention, a great top can take directions as well.

    All in all don't over think stuff in the sack have fun and laugh.
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    Apr 30, 2014 3:21 PM GMT
    ^^^ I think your advice I quoted in the second post was from a few years ago. I quoted both you and MMTM for truth. In a lot of the posts on this topic over the years, guys said something like, "This is the way I do it, and if he doesn't like it, that's his tough luck." A more enlightened approach to lovemaking is to realize that people are different, and what pleases one may not please another. Perhaps less obviously, what pleases you may not please someone else.

    In a way, your current advice seems the opposite. Have you changed your point of view, or should a guy make sure his lover wants assertiveness/aggressiveness before bossing/tossing him around?

    I bet lots of guys, particularly bottoms, like to be told what to do in bed. But I know not all of them do. And some do only if asked for permission first. icon_wink.gif

    P.S. There's another thread for advice for tops, linked in the first post.
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    Apr 30, 2014 6:43 PM GMT
    shortbutsweet saidIn a way, your current advice seems the opposite. Have you changed your point of view, or should a guy make sure his lover wants assertiveness/aggressiveness before bossing/tossing him around?

    oh hell na, it's not changed I'm still paying attention.

    I'm assertive, not bossy. Huge difference, I'm not afraid to ask for what I want or tell them if the situation is right (depending on what it is) I won't force it I don't expect everything I enjoy to happen in the sack (Some of it's just downright kinky) and they have a say.

    However a lot of guys I attract want a big strong aggressive top which i can do and well I do alright in that area cause I"m so used to it now.

    having said that most of the things a guy will want should be worked out before hand so you know where the lines are and which lines are for walking up to.

    I'm still hugely into paying attention and listening and responding to the guy but I'm not going to ask permission for anything, I already know what the lines are so if we are at that point where we are going to fuck I'll tell them "I wanna fuck you now" or something like that and how they respond is the answer.

    But I've had a recent experience where a guy actually asked.. It was a turn off, don't ask, do, pay attention to my body and my voice and my face. The second you cross a line your gonna know it.

    Talk to the guy your gonna do and remember what he says (ya know actually pay attention not just think I wanna get off) then follow what he says and then some.

    But every guy is different some wanna be used and abused and tossed aside. Others want to feel loved and wanted and like gentle and sweetness, then others are somewhere in between so everyone is different and every guy needs a different approach but I've not yet found a guy who didn't respond well to me being assertive and confident.

    Actually my confidence and assertiveness is one of the things I get the most compliments about.

    Don't ask can I do this, do it, pay attention and stop if they aren't enjoying it. simple as that
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    Apr 30, 2014 6:46 PM GMT
    shortbutsweet saidI bet lots of guys, particularly bottoms, like to be told what to do in bed. But I know not all of them do. And some do only if asked for permission first.

    Permission is asked before hand not during. During is the time where your brain and body are just meant to be experiencing the sensation and enjoyment and your responding to their cues.
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    Apr 30, 2014 6:54 PM GMT
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    xavier92 said
    Fivealive saidMy booty skills are pretty much complimented on. In fact many of the quotes stated is something I already do in bed.

    And people wonder why am I not in a porno...icon_lol.gif



    Gasp! You're a top? icon_eek.gif


    No I'm a verse bottom. In fact I was flip fucking with a hotty last night.
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    Apr 30, 2014 9:51 PM GMT
    lilTanker said
    shortbutsweet saidI bet lots of guys, particularly bottoms, like to be told what to do in bed. But I know not all of them do. And some do only if asked for permission first.

    Permission is asked before hand not during. During is the time where your brain and body are just meant to be experiencing the sensation and enjoyment and your responding to their cues.

    That's what I thought you meant. So, I'm going to boil your advice down like this, and correct me if I'm wrong: Be assertive. The time to talk and think about what you each want is beforehand, not when you're between the sheets.
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    Apr 30, 2014 11:11 PM GMT
    How can I be a good bottom? Or top? icon_neutral.gif I'm a virgin btw lol
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    May 01, 2014 6:09 AM GMT
    shortbutsweet said
    That's what I thought you meant. So, I'm going to boil your advice down like this, and correct me if I'm wrong: Be assertive. The time to talk and think about what you each want is beforehand, not when you're between the sheets.

    Yes. Although sometimes it's nice to get a surprise as well icon_razz.gif

    Depending on what it is.
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    May 01, 2014 2:10 PM GMT
    Yes, well, that's the thing. You really have to be in tune with your partner to know what kinds of surprises he'll appreciate.

    As I noted in the companion to this thread, Scorpios are some of the zodiac's best lovers. They have an intuitive sense of what will please their partners in bed. If you've never had a Scorpio, go out and get one.

    The flip side of that coin is that Scorpios expect everyone else to be able to read their minds, as well. They don't realize it's a special talent only they possess.