FDA: Condoms Not Approved for Anal Sex

  • metta

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    May 01, 2014 4:04 PM GMT
    FDA: Condoms Not Approved for Anal Sex

    When it comes to posterior intercourse, recent research shows condoms prevent 7 out of 10 transmissions.

    http://www.imstilljosh.com/fda-condoms-not-approved-anal-sex/
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    May 01, 2014 5:01 PM GMT
    What does the CDC say about condom use for anal sex? I believe they encourage it. Seems like we have 2 Federal agencies at odds, not the first time these turf wars have happened. Perhaps the CDC will respond.

    In the meantime, still have anal sex with a condom. This is not a pass to bareback.
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    May 01, 2014 7:09 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidWhat does the CDC say about condom use for anal sex? I believe they encourage it. Seems like we have 2 Federal agencies at odds, not the first time these turf wars have happened. Perhaps the CDC will respond.

    In the meantime, still have anal sex with a condom. This is not a pass to bareback.


    You'd think that'd be common sense, but sadly not always.
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    May 01, 2014 7:27 PM GMT
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    icon_confused.gif.... pathetic isnt it? of all the awareness campaign and statute that's there and this is what is sort out to be now ? icon_rolleyes.gif

  • metta

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    May 01, 2014 7:32 PM GMT
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    good link. Thanks for posting. From the above link:

    "Are condoms strong enough for anal intercourse?
    Condoms may be more likely to break during anal intercourse than during other types of sex because of the greater amount of friction and other stresses involved."

    The FDA is recommending to use condoms but the condoms have not been designed for anal sex. Condoms have been designed for vaginal sex.

    We do have companies that are working on designing comdoms for anal use

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    May 01, 2014 8:40 PM GMT
    nongmo said
    Art_Deco saidWhat does the CDC say about condom use for anal sex? I believe they encourage it. Seems like we have 2 Federal agencies at odds, not the first time these turf wars have happened. Perhaps the CDC will respond.

    In the meantime, still have anal sex with a condom. This is not a pass to bareback.

    You'd think that'd be common sense, but sadly not always.

    Well, a lot of guys want to hear what they want to hear, per their own agenda. They want to bareback, so they hear anything that might permit it, and disregard anything that doesn't.

    One example is "undetectable viral count" as being a green light to bareback.

    The reality is that viral counts rise & fall daily, and the viral count someone had for the test may not be his viral count today. Big difference. You wanna bet your life on that?

    Plus undetectable does not mean HIV negative. He's still got the virus, just not a high enough count to register on tests. But maybe enough virus to infect you, maybe not. You gonna play that Russian roulette?

    Plus it's just the truth of what he's telling you himself. Just like the guy who claims he's negative. Or says nothing at all. Does he really know? Is he lying? And you're gonna bet your future health on THAT? Are you crazy?
  • LJay

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    May 01, 2014 11:56 PM GMT
    What a say-nothing article!

    You could write nearly the same things on the premise that water is not approved for drowning.

    Some writer needed a commission.
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    May 02, 2014 12:08 AM GMT
    It may help to use two condoms, but there are multiple opinions on using two. Some say that the friction between the two condoms makes them less reliable, but I have not been able to find a study that supports that opinion. It looks as though one person said that and he was quoted by many others.
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    May 02, 2014 1:18 AM GMT
    I've heard from health professionals that femidoms are ideal for anal sex, and were maybe even designed for it, but they could never be successfully marketed to gay men.
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    May 02, 2014 1:24 AM GMT
    Actually the "female" condom was originally intended for anal intercourse between two males. although, due to the time period in which they were invented, they were not approved until modified (the ring that's meant to keep it in place) and marketed for women
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    May 02, 2014 2:20 AM GMT
    FRE0 saidIt may help to use two condoms, but there are multiple opinions on using two. Some say that the friction between the two condoms makes them less reliable, but I have not been able to find a study that supports that opinion. It looks as though one person said that and he was quoted by many others.


    Just the other day I thought movies and shows should stop saying "double bag it". Plastic on plastic creates more friction PERIOD. Your best bet is a new unexpired condom with tons of lube.

    I too thought that maybe a female condom, plus a male condom would equal more protection, but I was told by a doctor that it would create more friction. If it isn't broke don't fix it -- if you were supposed to wear two condoms the companies would've made them thicker or added that to their instructions (especially because it would benefit their bottom line lol).
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    May 02, 2014 2:31 AM GMT
    Thanks for bring up Femidom. Is it available in the U.K.? Here's the link in case any non-British is curious like me: (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2005/aug/23/health.lifeandhealth/print). In the U.S. we (as in health specialists) know it as FC, currently available as FC2 / Reality brand. icon_smile.gif
  • metta

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    May 02, 2014 2:44 AM GMT
    Have any of you guys tried that female condom? Curious to know what people think of it.
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    May 02, 2014 2:53 AM GMT
    Two condoms? icon_eek.gif You learn something new every day...
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    May 02, 2014 2:59 AM GMT
    AnOriginal said
    was told by a doctor that it would create more friction. .


    I confirm that (from reading the FC pamphlet at the Sex Info Center where I had volunteered), and is not advised.
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    May 02, 2014 3:05 AM GMT
    Make sure to use plenty of lube to prevent the condom from breaking due to friction and check out what kind of lube your condoms supports.
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    May 02, 2014 3:29 AM GMT
    Homerk said
    AnOriginal said
    was told by a doctor that it would create more friction. .


    I confirm that (from reading the FC pamphlet at the Sex Info Center where I had volunteered), and is not advised.


    Thank you for confirming my post :-)
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    May 02, 2014 5:32 AM GMT
    1) don't "double-bag" or wear two condoms at a time (one on top of the other) - this is not recommended as the friction between the two will increase chances of breakage.

    2) i have had condoms break on me while i was topping. it can stretch the condom more on one side if there's not enough lube, or if the reservoir tip gets caught near the opening as you slide in, or if you are fucking at an angle where more friction is felt on one side of your dick.
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    May 02, 2014 7:52 AM GMT
    F it then, BB for everybody
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    May 02, 2014 8:10 AM GMT
    Would be better protection than nothing...
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    May 02, 2014 8:28 AM GMT
    woodsmen saidUtterly false. I went to the FDA web site and they say to use condoms for anal sex: http://www.fda.gov/forconsumers/byaudience/forpatientadvocates/hivandaidsactivities/ucm126372.htm


    No, they don't write that. They acknowledge that anal sex happens and people use them during anal sex.

    I didn't read where, verbatim, the FDA had officially approved condom use for anal sex.

    Sometimes it's all about semantics.

    It seems that article was advertisement from the pharmaceutical corp. that made the drug Truvia: "Meanwhile, the FDA has approved one form of HIV prevention, a once daily pill called Truvada used as PrEP, or pre-exposure prophylaxis. You can read all about PrEP in this special report published by Imstilljosh earlier this year."

    It reams of an ad campaign...

    I've often thought of using a female condom, but the word 'female' and my anatomy are utterly irreconcilable... icon_eek.gificon_neutral.gif
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    May 02, 2014 11:35 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidNever had a condom break on me during anal sex.


    then you're doing it wrong...
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    May 02, 2014 12:45 PM GMT
    So a lot of people don't realize that different lubes serves different purposes... The thicker the lube, the better for anal. -I believe it has to do with the integrity of the lube staying slick during anal sex but I could be wrong. Its always best when buying lube for anal sex to get the lube that says "for anal sex"... If you use the same lube meant for masterbating (which is typically thinner) on your's or your partner's ass during anal sex, it is more likely to dry up. Avoid lube meant for vaginal sex as the integrity of the vaginal canal has its own lubricating system as that can work in unison with the lube.

    We need thicker-slicker lube. Water based has less chemical reactions with latex and supposedly doesn't stain sheets (although that is not my experience...)

    I have had condoms break before I knew about different lubes... I always thought it had to do with my God-like ability to have sex, but as a more educated man now, I think it had more to do with chemical reactions, drying lube and friction between latex and the anus. - Not to discredit my own abilities mind you... ;-)

    Fun little tip for Tops... use non-lubricated condoms, and a lubricant intended for anal sex (it'll be thick and say it on the bottle). Have your bottom apply whatever he needs to in his own ass and before putting on condom, apply a tiny bit around the edge of the head of your own penis. put on condom and apply typical amount of lube on your condom-covered penis. For those who don't use this method, you'd be surprised at the extra sensation your penis will experience.

    A lot of guys lately have been using the warming lubes. Not my favorite but to each their own.... if you are using different lubes in the butt, make sure they are of the same brand, latex friendly, and at least one is thick... avoid mixing brands.

    Have fun, Be smart, Stay safe!
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    May 02, 2014 12:52 PM GMT
    MK1220 saidSo a lot of people don't realize that different lubes serves different purposes... The thicker the lube, the better for anal. -I believe it has to do with the integrity of the lube staying slick during anal sex but I could be wrong. Its always best when buying lube for anal sex to get the lube that says "for anal sex"... If you use the same lube meant for masterbating (which is typically thinner) on your's or your partner's ass during anal sex, it is more likely to dry up. Avoid lube meant for vaginal sex as the integrity of the vaginal canal has its own lubricating system as that can work in unison with the lube.

    We need thicker-slicker lube. Water based has less chemical reactions with latex and supposedly doesn't stain sheets (although that is not my experience...)

    I have had condoms break before I knew about different lubes... I always thought it had to do with my God-like ability to have sex, but as a more educated man now, I think it had more to do with chemical reactions, drying lube and friction between latex and the anus. - Not to discredit my own abilities mind you... ;-)

    Fun little tip for Tops... use non-lubricated condoms, and a lubricant intended for anal sex (it'll be thick and say it on the bottle). Have your bottom apply whatever he needs to in his own ass and before putting on condom, apply a tiny bit around the edge of the head of your own penis. put on condom and apply typical amount of lube on your condom-covered penis. For those who don't use this method, you'd be surprised at the extra sensation your penis will experience.

    A lot of guys lately have been using the warming lubes. Not my favorite but to each their own.... if you are using different lubes in the butt, make sure they are of the same brand, latex friendly, and at least one is thick... avoid mixing brands.

    Have fun, Be smart, Stay safe!


    MK, I really appreciate your taking the time to explain this, but I am still a bit unclear about some of it. Would you mind stopping by and performing a demonstration. I can help.
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    May 02, 2014 1:42 PM GMT
    ^^^ Silly boy.icon_twisted.gif