Another Republican Leaves the Party Over LGBT Rights

  • metta

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    May 01, 2014 4:58 PM GMT

    Another Republican Leaves the Party Over LGBT Rights:

    Lorence Wenke, a former Republican state representative and current state senate candidate from Michigan


    Read more at http://www.bilerico.com/2014/05/another_republican_leaves_the_party_over_lgbt_righ.php
  • metta

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    May 01, 2014 5:04 PM GMT
    Lorence Wenke
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lorence-Wenke/106442041875




    "I have joined the Libertarian Party and expect to be on the ballot in November as their Kalamazoo County Senate candidate (20th District)."

    http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/article/20140430/OPINION02/304300011/Lorence-Wenke-Difficult-decision-leaving-GOP
  • tazzari

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    May 01, 2014 5:49 PM GMT
    Maybe we can look forward to the day when the GOP crumbles into dust and gets re-born as a conservative party with adults who have useful, positive ideas.
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    May 01, 2014 5:56 PM GMT
    tazzari saidMaybe we can look forward to the day when the GOP crumbles into dust and gets re-born as a conservative party with adults who have useful, positive ideas.

    Wishful thinking. The desire to dominate & rule others, as currently expressed by the US Republican Party, is engrained in humanity. It will always emerge again, by whatever political name.

    True democracy is the frailest of concepts, the rarest of human institutions, and the antithesis of Republicanism. It will always remain a struggle to preserve democracy, even if the current Republican Party should collapse (let's pray). The ugly selfishness & bigotry that is Republicanism today will always rear its ugly head, by some other name.
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    May 01, 2014 7:10 PM GMT
    misleading article.
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    May 01, 2014 7:12 PM GMT
    The GOP has a horrible moral compass.

    Unfortunately, recent research shows that moral compass is actually hard wired into their genetics. CNN does a series of packages on it.

    While some states, like Texas, will eventually flip to blue, there will always been some folks that have a lesser understanding of the world around them; compassion; empathy; planning.

    The GOP preys upon ignorance, and, there's still a lot of ignorant folks left.
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    May 01, 2014 7:12 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    tazzari saidMaybe we can look forward to the day when the GOP crumbles into dust and gets re-born as a conservative party with adults who have useful, positive ideas.

    Wishful thinking. The desire to dominate & rule others, as currently expressed by the US Republican Party, is engrained in humanity. It will always emerge again, by whatever political name.

    True democracy is the frailest of concepts, the rarest of human institutions, and the antithesis of Republicanism. It will always remain a struggle to preserve democracy, even if the current Republican Party should collapse (let's pray). The ugly selfishness & bigotry that is Republicanism today will always rear its ugly head, by some other name.


    +1
  • HndsmKansan

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    May 01, 2014 7:18 PM GMT
    Glad to hear he is making a prudent decision. Kudos to him
    for taking the initiative!

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    HndsmKansan saidGlad to hear he is making a prudent decision. Kudos to him
    for taking the initiative!

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    Agreed. icon_smile.gif
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    May 01, 2014 7:43 PM GMT
    Great article he called out 3 other GOP members who have gay family members and voted for hate.

    Michigan goes Blue for President, but F's up almost everything else...
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    May 01, 2014 7:43 PM GMT
    He could play spoiler, that's a Republican held seat that Democrats have a chance of picking up. Libertarian candidates tend to draw from Republicans.
  • Lincsbear

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    May 01, 2014 8:45 PM GMT
    On a lighter note, that`s a great place name, Kalamazoo!
  • WrestlerBoy

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    May 01, 2014 8:54 PM GMT
    Lincsbear saidOn a lighter note, that`s a great place name, Kalamazoo!


    "I got a gal..... in..."
  • BillandChuck

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    May 01, 2014 9:53 PM GMT
    tazzari saidMaybe we can look forward to the day when the GOP crumbles into dust and gets re-born as a conservative party with adults who have useful, positive ideas.

    From your mouth to God's ears! icon_neutral.gif
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    May 01, 2014 10:15 PM GMT
    James_Thunder_Early saidHe could play spoiler, that's a Republican held seat that Democrats have a chance of picking up. Libertarian candidates tend to draw from Republicans.


    Agree with this. I have spent most of my adult life living in Kalamazoo and know the Wenke family quite well. They own a greenhouse here in town and have a greenhouse wholesale business that is based in Georgia. I have voted for him in the past because his beliefs are a bit different than most Republicans and I believe in what he stands for.
  • venue35

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    May 01, 2014 10:22 PM GMT
    There is an actual city called kalamazoo??
  • WrestlerBoy

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    May 01, 2014 10:42 PM GMT
    venue35 saidThere is an actual city called kalamazoo??


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t521jxF8tyc


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    venue35 saidThere is an actual city called kalamazoo??

    Yes there really is a place called Kalamazoo!
  • tazzari

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    May 02, 2014 12:03 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    tazzari saidMaybe we can look forward to the day when the GOP crumbles into dust and gets re-born as a conservative party with adults who have useful, positive ideas.

    Wishful thinking. The desire to dominate & rule others, as currently expressed by the US Republican Party, is engrained in humanity. It will always emerge again, by whatever political name.

    True democracy is the frailest of concepts, the rarest of human institutions, and the antithesis of Republicanism. It will always remain a struggle to preserve democracy, even if the current Republican Party should collapse (let's pray). The ugly selfishness & bigotry that is Republicanism today will always rear its ugly head, by some other name.


    Maybe the country's just too big, with too much wealth. I read read Thucydides last winter, and was (again) struck by the ideals in Pericles' funeral oration. Some get the concept of service to the community; most, sadly, don't.
  • LJay

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    May 02, 2014 12:04 AM GMT
    There is also an Ypsilanti. Indian names.
  • roadbikeRob

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    May 02, 2014 12:21 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidThe GOP has a horrible moral compass.

    Unfortunately, recent research shows that moral compass is actually hard wired into their genetics. CNN does a series of packages on it.

    While some states, like Texas, will eventually flip to blue, there will always been some folks that have a lesser understanding of the world around them; compassion; empathy; planning.

    The GOP preys upon ignorance, and, there's still a lot of ignorant folks left.
    Texas will never flip to blue so stop entertaining that unrealistic thought. Texas will always be a religiously conservative red state. If you want to live in a blue democratic state, you are going to have to permanently leave Texas.
  • creature

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    May 02, 2014 12:42 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    chuckystud saidThe GOP has a horrible moral compass.

    Unfortunately, recent research shows that moral compass is actually hard wired into their genetics. CNN does a series of packages on it.

    While some states, like Texas, will eventually flip to blue, there will always been some folks that have a lesser understanding of the world around them; compassion; empathy; planning.

    The GOP preys upon ignorance, and, there's still a lot of ignorant folks left.
    Texas will never flip to blue so stop entertaining that unrealistic thought. Texas will always be a religiously conservative red state. If you want to live in a blue democratic state, you are going to have to permanently leave Texas.


    If the demographics continue to change with the pattern we are now seeing, then yes, Texas will turn blue. Unfortunately for the Republicans, the national trend, if you are looking at the bigger picture, means that if they want to stay relevant, they will need to drop the social issues, and focus on fiscal policy.
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    May 02, 2014 12:45 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidTexas will never flip to blue so stop entertaining that unrealistic thought. Texas will always be a religiously conservative red state. If you want to live in a blue democratic state, you are going to have to permanently leave Texas.
    Texas's demographic is getting more Latino; and Texas has been blue before. Never say never (unless you have a deeply lodged stick up your arse about all things Texas that has heretofore been sufficiently unexpressed in our forums).
  • metta

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    May 02, 2014 12:48 AM GMT
    ^

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  • roadbikeRob

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    May 02, 2014 12:57 AM GMT
    creature said
    roadbikeRob said
    chuckystud saidThe GOP has a horrible moral compass.

    Unfortunately, recent research shows that moral compass is actually hard wired into their genetics. CNN does a series of packages on it.

    While some states, like Texas, will eventually flip to blue, there will always been some folks that have a lesser understanding of the world around them; compassion; empathy; planning.

    The GOP preys upon ignorance, and, there's still a lot of ignorant folks left.
    Texas will never flip to blue so stop entertaining that unrealistic thought. Texas will always be a religiously conservative red state. If you want to live in a blue democratic state, you are going to have to permanently leave Texas.


    If the demographics continue to change with the pattern we are now seeing, then yes, Texas will turn blue. Unfortunately for the Republicans, the national trend, if you are looking at the bigger picture, means that if they want to stay relevant, they will need to drop the social issues, and focus on fiscal policy.
    Texas is not going to flip to blue regardless of the demographics. The fast growing Hispanic population in Texas is much more conservative and religious than Hispanics throughout the US. Republicans have made successful inroads with Texas Hispanics which will enable them to control the Austin statehouse and keep Texas permanently red. A large majority of the white population is also conservative and religious. There are very significant religious and conservative segments in all the other ethnic communities in Texas. The lone star state continues to be a magnet for religious and ultra conservative groups of people. So kill off this nonsensical thought that Texas will go blue because it most likely will never happen. The states largest cities- Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, and Fort Worth are much more conservative than most other major US cities and will remain so for the forseeable future. That is a major part of their economic success. While the poor inner city neighborhoods that border their downtown cores will be all democratic blue, the rest of those central cities will be purple but with a very strong presence of republicans. You all need to get out of your fantasyland about Texas going blue. Its just not meant to be.