"The Glass Closet - Why coming out is good business"

  • maxferguson

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    May 03, 2014 12:26 AM GMT
    Has anyone read this book? (http://www.amazon.com/The-Glass-Closet-Coming-Business-ebook/dp/B00FJ3AERW) It's by John Browne, who was (and is re-becoming) one of the most prolific oilmen in the world and was outed by a former boyfriend. He then went on to write this and I'm wondering if anyone else has read it and if they'd recommend.
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    May 03, 2014 10:33 AM GMT
    First off my first response is that isn't it great that the UK has members of our upper house "House of Lords" who are part of the LGBT gang and are welcomed with open arms into government and currently i am looking for work and it is disgusting that in any other work place such things affect your chance of employment and of chances to step up the ladder, no matter how much i lose out i will not hide my sexuality on applications nor will i hide my mental illness to which i am sure lost me my application to a recent job.

    And by saying what i have said i ain't playing any homophobic or anything against mental illness card either.

    I haven't read it but its good that someone has written a book that highlights this issue.
  • BillandChuck

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    May 03, 2014 10:57 AM GMT
    It isn't a good book; it's a great book. A very privileged man has taken the time to "give back" by exposing and chronicling continuing unfair treatment by gays of all levels in business, making a case against it which is cogent. Efforts like this, to expose and appeal, MUST continue until all diverse individuals' rights and treatment are equal. Read it!
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    May 03, 2014 12:08 PM GMT
    It is no secret in my work place that I have a husband of 20+ years. But working in a female dominated work place, I get more shit for being a man and not a poof.
  • pharmstudent

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    May 04, 2014 3:33 AM GMT
    I think gay is the new black. I'm still in school but I can already see the perks of coming out. Beside, being invited to all the frat parties, I've two internships lined up, I'm the current president of the student body and not to forget the closet professors.
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    May 05, 2014 5:09 PM GMT
    pharmstudent saidI think gay is the new black. I'm still in school but I can already see the perks of coming out. Beside, being invited to all the frat parties, I've two internships lined up, I'm the current president of the student body and not to forget the closet professors.


    Yeah, I'm glad I jumped on the Gay Bandwagon when I did! LOL
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    May 05, 2014 10:21 PM GMT
    BillandChuck saidIt isn't a good book; it's a great book. A very privileged man has taken the time to "give back" by exposing and chronicling continuing unfair treatment by gays of all levels in business, making a case against it which is cogent. Efforts like this, to expose and appeal, MUST continue until all diverse individuals' rights and treatment are equal. Read it!

    Wow, great endorsement. I might need to read this one too. Thanks guys, always good to get first hand endorsements before wasting money on something not worth reading!
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    May 06, 2014 1:14 AM GMT
    maxferguson saidHas anyone read this book? (http://www.amazon.com/The-Glass-Closet-Coming-Business-ebook/dp/B00FJ3AERW) It's by John Browne, who was (and is re-becoming) one of the most prolific oilmen in the world and was outed by a former boyfriend. He then went on to write this and I'm wondering if anyone else has read it and if they'd recommend.


    I'm glad it worked for him, but too often we only want to hear the happy endings. An unfortunate counterexample is that of a MUCH more important oil man, the CEO of BP, Lord Brown. His career ended and his social status plunged markedly.

    That gloomy note aside,I'd like to be out at work as a financial advisor, but I'm wondering what people think the pros and cons are?
  • BillandChuck

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    May 06, 2014 3:03 AM GMT
    SWIMGUYCHICAGO said
    maxferguson saidHas anyone read this book? (http://www.amazon.com/The-Glass-Closet-Coming-Business-ebook/dp/B00FJ3AERW) It's by John Browne, who was (and is re-becoming) one of the most prolific oilmen in the world and was outed by a former boyfriend. He then went on to write this and I'm wondering if anyone else has read it and if they'd recommend.


    I'm glad it worked for him, but too often we only want to hear the happy endings. An unfortunate counterexample is that of a MUCH more important oil man, the CEO of BP, Lord Brown. His career ended and his social status plunged markedly.

    That gloomy note aside,I'd like to be out at work as a financial advisor, but I'm wondering what people think the pros and cons are?

    That's this book. Lord John Browne, former CEO of BP.
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    May 06, 2014 9:37 PM GMT
    pharmstudent saidI think gay is the new black. I'm still in school but I can already see the perks of coming out. Beside, being invited to all the frat parties, I've two internships lined up, I'm the current president of the student body and not to forget the closet professors.


    Like srsly? icon_biggrin.gif I've never thought of it this way. I should buy more pink clothes and rainbow scarfs to enjoy the perks of this.
  • omgazn

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    May 07, 2014 7:33 PM GMT
    klobasnik said
    pharmstudent saidI think gay is the new black. I'm still in school but I can already see the perks of coming out. Beside, being invited to all the frat parties, I've two internships lined up, I'm the current president of the student body and not to forget the closet professors.


    Like srsly? icon_biggrin.gif I've never thought of it this way. I should buy more pink clothes and rainbow scarfs to enjoy the perks of this.


    Lol I actually tried having a pink shirt but it just isn't me. I still prefer the dark color clothing and baggy jeans.
  • pharmstudent

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    May 08, 2014 6:06 AM GMT
    I can't do pink either. I can't pull it off. I gotta ready this book though
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    May 08, 2014 2:39 PM GMT
    pharmstudent saidI think gay is the new black. I'm still in school but I can already see the perks of coming out. Beside, being invited to all the frat parties, I've two internships lined up, I'm the current president of the student body and not to forget the closet professors.


    hopefully thats true. If it is nobody will think twice in a few yrs.
  • BillandChuck

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    May 09, 2014 11:20 AM GMT
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    pharmstudent saidI think gay is the new black. I'm still in school but I can already see the perks of coming out. Beside, being invited to all the frat parties, I've two internships lined up, I'm the current president of the student body and not to forget the closet professors.


    hopefully thats true. If it is nobody will think twice in a few yrs.

    From your mouth to God's ears, MrMike35.
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    May 09, 2014 2:43 PM GMT
    SWIMGUYCHICAGO said
    maxferguson saidHas anyone read this book? (http://www.amazon.com/The-Glass-Closet-Coming-Business-ebook/dp/B00FJ3AERW) It's by John Browne, who was (and is re-becoming) one of the most prolific oilmen in the world and was outed by a former boyfriend. He then went on to write this and I'm wondering if anyone else has read it and if they'd recommend.


    I'm glad it worked for him, but too often we only want to hear the happy endings. An unfortunate counterexample is that of a MUCH more important oil man, the CEO of BP, Lord Brown. His career ended and his social status plunged markedly.


    Erm lol...

    For those who don't know Lord John Browne was forced out of BP for lying about where he met his boyfriend (he said it was jogging in Hyde Park, when really it was an escort website called Suited and Booted). His boyfriend was also semi-blackmailing him I believe. Of course the real story was that he was a homo shaking hands with people in the Middle East and so on.
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    May 11, 2014 1:39 AM GMT
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    SWIMGUYCHICAGO said
    maxferguson saidHas anyone read this book? (http://www.amazon.com/The-Glass-Closet-Coming-Business-ebook/dp/B00FJ3AERW) It's by John Browne, who was (and is re-becoming) one of the most prolific oilmen in the world and was outed by a former boyfriend. He then went on to write this and I'm wondering if anyone else has read it and if they'd recommend.


    I'm glad it worked for him, but too often we only want to hear the happy endings. An unfortunate counterexample is that of a MUCH more important oil man, the CEO of BP, Lord Brown. His career ended and his social status plunged markedly.


    Erm lol...

    For those who don't know Lord John Browne was forced out of BP for lying about where he met his boyfriend (he said it was jogging in Hyde Park, when really it was an escort website called Suited and Booted). His boyfriend was also semi-blackmailing him I believe. Of course the real story was that he was a homo shaking hands with people in the Middle East and so on.

    Jeff Chevalier was very definitely attempting to blackmail him, and in retaliation for Browne's refusal to submit, he gave facts and embellished dirt to the Associated Group newspapers (for a never-disclosed sum in payment). Browne sued for injunction, and in he process made a huge mistake by lying under oath about how he and Chevalier met. Lying is always iffy; certainly in court while under oath is phenomenally stupid. BUT..... how many of us haven't done something stupid in an otherwise positive life? Anyone remember George Michael and a City of Beverly Hills public men's room? Yet George Michael's charitable work and his contribution to music history eclipses that lapse of judgment. The book is not only a great read, but it is an important contribution in the cause of making being gay a non-factor in the day-to-day world and decisions and actions.
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    May 11, 2014 2:13 AM GMT
    Being out is the right thing for a long list of reasons.
  • 1AlanZSky

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    Dec 27, 2014 6:47 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidBeing out is the right thing for a long list of reasons.


    Is it really?
  • 1AlanZSky

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    Dec 27, 2014 6:51 AM GMT
    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/google-online-data-expert-estimates-1-20-american-men-are-gay091213

    Why don't you force these gay men out of the closet then?
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