Does ‘Sperm Donor’ Mean ‘Dad’?

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    May 03, 2014 3:45 AM GMT
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    NYT: He is a movie star who shot to fame on a motorcycle in “The Lost Boys.” She is a California massage therapist from a prominent East Coast family. Four years ago, with his sperm, her eggs and the wonder of in vitro fertilization, they produced a child.

    For the last two years, Jason Patric and Danielle Schreiber have been waging what has become one of the highest-profile custody fights in the country — one that scrambles a gender stereotype, raises the question of who should be considered a legal parent and challenges state laws that try to bring order to the Wild West of nonanonymous sperm donations.

    “The resonance here is enormous because of the increasing number of families being formed today outside of traditional marriage,” said Naomi R. Cahn, a family law professor at George Washington University and the author of “Test Tube Families.” “Single heterosexual women, lesbian couples, men who donate sperm expecting to be part of a child’s life — they had better be paying attention.”

    What constitutes a family in America’s increasingly fuzzy definition of it?

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    May 03, 2014 3:58 AM GMT
    I guess I'm being simplistic here but...

    Both of them had conceded that he would use his sperm to produce an offspring and then afterwards was part of childs upbringing.

    Its more of custody battle then anything else.

    But on the topic of sperm donation. I believe it is up to donor himself if he would like to be involved in the child's life.

    If yes then plan out an agreement contract.Pulling out would require clauses.

    If not then the donor, once again must sign an agreement requiring him to have little to no contact and no rights as over the child should he change his mind later.

    I've read on a case where a donor was forced to pay childcare because the government forced to and there was agreement by the same sex couple that he should have no responsibilities.

    Really I don't know why know how people don't use logic in such matters.As a result, the example I mentioned before gets quite messy.
  • AMoonHawk

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    May 03, 2014 4:04 AM GMT
    His sperm, his kid, that's the way the courts see it when then want to collect money, so they can't play one hand one day and another hand another day.
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    May 03, 2014 7:03 AM GMT
    His case is different but in general no no no no no! This is exactly why nobody should have donated since they removed anonymity for donors. Also, more people should adopt one of the tens of thousand (probably hundreds of thousand in the US) kids in care rather than jumping through these hoops.
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    May 03, 2014 7:09 AM GMT
    duh, that's why if you want a kid, you never do such a thing without seeing a good lawyer first . . .
  • BillandChuck

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    May 03, 2014 10:47 AM GMT
    And even WITH advance agreements, our activist, self-serving courts apparently legislate from the bench in cases like this and ignore what were, at the time executed, legally-binding agreements. icon_eek.gif

    To the point about adoption: BRAVO! WHile it's still a matter of choice for any person wanting to become a parent, there are SO MANY children who need and deserve good homes, and our system of "care" is so BROKEN that they are more often than not at risk when they are in "care". Our oldest is adopted, and we're believers. The awesome way he has enhanced the family is far beyond any expectation.
  • tj85016

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    May 03, 2014 10:59 AM GMT
    There was this fool on MSNBC the other day advocating all young women should have their eggs frozen (at $8-12k per procedure not counting storage fees) so they can pursue their "lives" without pressure.

    She suggested the parents offer the service as a gift.

    God forbid that adoption is below these ego maniacal idiots.
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    May 03, 2014 12:47 PM GMT
    To donate is to make a gift of something. In my opinion, a child is not his.
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    May 03, 2014 3:01 PM GMT
    4Will saidTo donate is to make a gift of something. In my opinion, a child is not his.

    Sort of a good answer really then you have to figure the difference between a Dad and a Farther.
  • HndsmKansan

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    May 03, 2014 5:14 PM GMT
    Interesting topic and I would guess the law may change regarding rights and requirements in this area as case law becomes settled. It is fascinating, what rights and obligations people have or are perceived to have.
  • Sportsfan1

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    May 03, 2014 5:29 PM GMT
    No, being a sperm donor is not the same as being a dad. What about all those deadbeat dads out there that do nothing for their "offspring". My late brother falls into this category. He wanted to reconnect with his son after 38 years of indifference. My brother went ballistic when the court started to garnish his wages to provide some support for his "son". My brother wanted to reconnect with his son a month before my brother passed away of lung cancer. His son very politely told him that my brother was his biological father but not his dad. Enough said!
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    May 03, 2014 5:59 PM GMT
    They are physically related by blood so technically, yes, he is the father. As far as him being the parent, caregiver or guardian....well that's a different story.

    I'd have to agree that it's up to the donors how they wish to go about this. The courts usually seem to headhunt the donors in terms of child support. Door swings both ways.
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    May 03, 2014 6:34 PM GMT
    Give the Dad custody of the boy, or at least make it 50/50.

    Boys need a father.
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    May 03, 2014 7:34 PM GMT
    I'd donate my sperm to him...
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    May 04, 2014 4:18 AM GMT
    There is a body of law that governs subhuman activities?
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    May 04, 2014 4:42 AM GMT
    Lost cause. Judges always side with the mother. And since he's famous, he'll be paying child support for a child he'll never get to see.

    I didn't read the article. But did they do any DNA testing to confirm that his sperm got her pregnant?
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    May 04, 2014 7:43 AM GMT
    What a wonderful guy. He would make an awesome dad. I wish I was lucky enough to have someone like him around when I was growing up. I really hope the courts rule in his favor.
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    May 04, 2014 5:06 PM GMT
    xrichx saidLost cause. Judges always side with the mother. And since he's famous, he'll be paying child support for a child he'll never get to see.

    I didn't read the article. But did they do any DNA testing to confirm that his sperm got her pregnant?

    Unfortunately, you're right. Women's greed rules the day.

    She'll be mooching off his alimony and child suport forever.
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    May 04, 2014 5:06 PM GMT
    NO
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    May 04, 2014 8:10 PM GMT
    Nope ... being a dad takes more effort than jerk off in a cup.
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    May 04, 2014 8:14 PM GMT
    Sperm donor means that I give you my sperm for to have the baby, not for me to be the baby daddy. What type of conniving bitch would want the donor to pay child support? I'd refuse to do it.
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    May 04, 2014 8:19 PM GMT
    lawkan saidSperm donor means that I give you my sperm for to have the baby, not for me to be the baby daddy. What type of conniving bitch would want the donor to pay child support? I'd refuse to do it.

    US courts have shown they would be against you. Pay up, Daddy.
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    May 04, 2014 9:18 PM GMT
    Fivealive saidPulling out would require clauses.

    Interesting choice of words, given the context. icon_twisted.gif
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    May 04, 2014 9:26 PM GMT
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    lawkan saidSperm donor means that I give you my sperm for to have the baby, not for me to be the baby daddy. What type of conniving bitch would want the donor to pay child support? I'd refuse to do it.

    US courts have shown they would be against you. Pay up, Daddy.


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    May 05, 2014 7:43 PM GMT
    I was about to donate some spunk to a lesbian couple, but then we never really got around to it. I'm busy, then they were busy, and so on.

    If you don't want to be the dad, it's easy - bust out the paperwork and sign away any parental rights. I was drafting one myself with the terms and conditions of the sperm donation and it stated that I wasn't financially liable for any of the child's needs. The choice of parenthood was completely theirs; if the child eventually grew up and wanted to meet me, I said that was fine.

    Donating sperm isn't a big deal but make sure both consenting adults are smart about it.

    Apparently, there are a lot of man-trapping (daddy-catching) bitches out there that want your money. Do your research.