Did he try to drug me?

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    May 08, 2014 4:09 AM GMT
    So I ran into a scary situation the other day and was curious if anyone had some insight or if I was just freaking myself out.

    This involves a guy I initially met on grindr. We had been chatting for over 4 months. Eventually shared numbers, follow each other on IG, friended on facebook, etc. Always stated we wanted to hang out and meet, but never got around to it.

    The other day we finally met with the intention we would just hang out and watch a movie (and not the gay code where "movie" meant fool around). I'm not a big fan of watching a movie together on the first meeting since you don't get to talk much, but I was a bit eager to finally meet him in person.

    After chatting for about 10 minutes he put in the movie. Eventually he offered me a glass of water. He went to get it, but I couldn't physically see him. He appeared to take longer than one would think to fill a glass and put some ice in it.

    I took a sip of the water and it tasted quite odd. Then I smelled and there was a weird odor. It kind of smelled like chicken, I figured the glass possibly not very clean. I took another sip and the odd taste continued.

    I started to panic a bit because I realized it's never a smart idea to take a drink from someone when you don't see them make it. I felt a sudden rush to my head and my heart started to beat really fast. I wasn't aware if I was just freaking myself out and panicking or if he was attempting to drug me. The quick heartbeat went on for about 5 minutes and eventually subsided (I didn't drink anymore after the initial sips).

    Anyone know if those symptoms are related to a drug? From what I've looked on the internet GHB or date-rape usually is a relaxor, slows the heartbeat down.

    I ended the night being safe and nothing happened (other than enduring the painful watch of The Wolf on Wall Street). So was it all just in my head given the odd situation of events?


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    May 08, 2014 4:16 AM GMT
    Was probably mostly anxiety, not to say the guy wasn't trying to drug you, who knows really? Who wouldn't be anxious in that situation though? You probably didn't drink enough for it to be the affect of a drug slipped in your drink.

    And yep, I don't know of any drugs you'd use for date-rape which would raise heart-rate unless it's a hefty dose (or overdose) which is unlikely in your case.

    Regardless of whether it was a drug or not, you're okay and you won't get into that situation again in a hurry.
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    May 08, 2014 4:19 AM GMT
    th3ro saidWas probably mostly anxiety, not to say the guy wasn't trying to drug you, who knows really? Who wouldn't be anxious in that situation though? You probably didn't drink enough for it to be the affect of a drug slipped in your drink.

    And yep, I don't know of any drugs you'd use for date-rape which would raise heart-rate unless it's a hefty dose (or overdose) which is unlikely in your case.

    Regardless of whether it was a drug or not, you're okay and you won't get into that situation again in a hurry.


    True, I think it was just panic because of the odd taste after the first situation and I immediately jumped to the conclusion that perhaps he was trying to date-rape drug me.

    I have never experienced that feeling of a "rush" to my head and I felt a little disoriented. Which lead to further panic via increased heartbeat.
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    May 08, 2014 4:22 AM GMT
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    th3ro saidWas probably mostly anxiety, not to say the guy wasn't trying to drug you, who knows really? Who wouldn't be anxious in that situation though? You probably didn't drink enough for it to be the affect of a drug slipped in your drink.

    And yep, I don't know of any drugs you'd use for date-rape which would raise heart-rate unless it's a hefty dose (or overdose) which is unlikely in your case.

    Regardless of whether it was a drug or not, you're okay and you won't get into that situation again in a hurry.


    True, I think it was just panic because of the odd taste after the first situation and I immediately jumped to the conclusion that perhaps he was trying to date-rape drug me.

    I have never experienced that feeling of a "rush" to my head and I felt a little disoriented. Which lead to further panic via increased heartbeat.


    Was the "rush" light headedness with disorientation? Sounds like panic to me. How long did it last?
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    May 08, 2014 4:24 AM GMT
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    th3ro saidWas probably mostly anxiety, not to say the guy wasn't trying to drug you, who knows really? Who wouldn't be anxious in that situation though? You probably didn't drink enough for it to be the affect of a drug slipped in your drink.

    And yep, I don't know of any drugs you'd use for date-rape which would raise heart-rate unless it's a hefty dose (or overdose) which is unlikely in your case.

    Regardless of whether it was a drug or not, you're okay and you won't get into that situation again in a hurry.


    True, I think it was just panic because of the odd taste after the first situation and I immediately jumped to the conclusion that perhaps he was trying to date-rape drug me.

    I have never experienced that feeling of a "rush" to my head and I felt a little disoriented. Which lead to further panic via increased heartbeat.


    Was the "rush" light headedness with disorientation? Sounds like panic to me. How long did it last?


    The rush lasted less than 10 seconds I would say. Felt like a surge of blood (similar to a popper if you've ever tried that). Perhaps that came from sudden increased heartbeat?

    The disorientation lasted longer, but hard to say since I was sitting on a couch. At that point I was in full freak out mode though, so I think my heartbeat was attributed to that.
  • MikeW

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    May 08, 2014 4:26 AM GMT
    S34n05 said… Anyone know if those symptoms are related to a drug? From what I've looked on the internet GHB or date-rape usually is a relaxor, slows the heartbeat down.

    I ended the night being safe and nothing happened (other than enduring the painful watch of The Wolf on Wall Street). So was it all just in my head given the odd situation of events?

    Wait, this wasn't with Cash was it? If it was, very likely he was trying to poison you first. But, then, I can't imagine Cash sitting through "The Wolf of Wall Street," without being heavily sedated himself. Were there martinis involved? See any fire-arms lying around. Silencers? That sort of thing?
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    May 08, 2014 4:30 AM GMT
    Smell like chicken ... ewww ... big clue he is a lousy house keeper or maybe he put some witchy crap in it to try to seduce you, like water pour through his dirty sock or underwear. Who knows. The point is, you don't know the guy from Dave or Adam, so you can't trust anyone until you get to know them. Never meet someone at their place our yours. Always meet somewhere public where there are a lot of people. You're better off meeting people in real life. Now every creep with an i-phone can get on the internet.

    Check this out:
    "A 25-year-old Philadelphia man was murdered last week after driving to Chester, Pennsylvania to meet a man he had contacted through Grindr."
    http://www.thegailygrind.com/2014/05/06/25-year-old-philadelphia-man-murdered-grindr-hookup-gone-wrong/
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    May 08, 2014 4:33 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidSmell like chicken ... ewww ... big clue he is a lousy house keeper or maybe he put some witchy crap in it to try to seduce you. Who knows. The point is, you don't know the guy from Dave or Adam, so you can't trust anyone until you get to know them. Never meet someone at their place our yours. Always meet somewhere public where there are a lot of people. You're better off meeting people in real life. Now every creep with an i-phone can get on the internet.

    Check this out:
    "A 25-year-old Philadelphia man was murdered last week after driving to Chester, Pennsylvania to meet a man he had contacted through Grindr."
    http://www.thegailygrind.com/2014/05/06/25-year-old-philadelphia-man-murdered-grindr-hookup-gone-wrong/


    Yeah I understand the dangers, but I didn't consider this guy a total random. Only reason I agreed to meet at his apartment.
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    May 08, 2014 4:38 AM GMT
    Could have been tap water, it can smell gross sometimes. If you were drugged, you'd had have felt yourself being much less alert. Definitely seems like you had a panic attack.
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    May 08, 2014 4:41 AM GMT
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    th3ro said
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    th3ro saidWas probably mostly anxiety, not to say the guy wasn't trying to drug you, who knows really? Who wouldn't be anxious in that situation though? You probably didn't drink enough for it to be the affect of a drug slipped in your drink.

    And yep, I don't know of any drugs you'd use for date-rape which would raise heart-rate unless it's a hefty dose (or overdose) which is unlikely in your case.

    Regardless of whether it was a drug or not, you're okay and you won't get into that situation again in a hurry.


    True, I think it was just panic because of the odd taste after the first situation and I immediately jumped to the conclusion that perhaps he was trying to date-rape drug me.

    I have never experienced that feeling of a "rush" to my head and I felt a little disoriented. Which lead to further panic via increased heartbeat.


    Was the "rush" light headedness with disorientation? Sounds like panic to me. How long did it last?


    The rush lasted less than 10 seconds I would say. Felt like a surge of blood (similar to a popper if you've ever tried that). Perhaps that came from sudden increased heartbeat?

    The disorientation lasted longer, but hard to say since I was sitting on a couch. At that point I was in full freak out mode though, so I think my heartbeat was attributed to that.


    That's all panic for sure. You've nothing to worry about.
  • MikeW

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    May 08, 2014 4:45 AM GMT
    S34n05 saidYeah I understand the dangers, but I didn't consider this guy a total random. Only reason I agreed to meet at his apartment.

    Pardon me, I don't mean to be rude, but our forum is currently under attack by someone with this user name: S34nO5. The similarity between your name and his is very odd. It could be our attacker deliberately mimicked your name. But, still, why specifically you? So…. I have ask, do you know anything about this? Are you apart of it?
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    May 08, 2014 4:45 AM GMT
    Thanks James and th3ro. Panic attack it is I guess. First one for me.
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    May 08, 2014 4:46 AM GMT
    MikeW666 said
    S34n05 saidYeah I understand the dangers, but I didn't consider this guy a total random. Only reason I agreed to meet at his apartment.

    Pardon me, I don't mean to be rude, but our forum is currently under attack by someone with this user name: S34nO5. The similarity between your name and his is very odd. It could be our attacker deliberately mimicked your name. But, still, why specifically you? So…. I have ask, do you know anything about this? Are you apart of it?


    No I don't know who that is, I put them on ignore.
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    May 08, 2014 4:49 AM GMT
    MikeW666 said
    S34n05 saidYeah I understand the dangers, but I didn't consider this guy a total random. Only reason I agreed to meet at his apartment.

    Pardon me, I don't mean to be rude, but our forum is currently under attack by someone with this user name: S34nO5. The similarity between your name and his is very odd. It could be our attacker deliberately mimicked your name. But, still, why specifically you? So…. I have ask, do you know anything about this? Are you apart of it?


    Stuart always does that. He mimics someone else's name with one minor change.
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    May 08, 2014 4:50 AM GMT
    Cash said
    MikeW666 said
    S34n05 saidYeah I understand the dangers, but I didn't consider this guy a total random. Only reason I agreed to meet at his apartment.

    Pardon me, I don't mean to be rude, but our forum is currently under attack by someone with this user name: S34nO5. The similarity between your name and his is very odd. It could be our attacker deliberately mimicked your name. But, still, why specifically you? So…. I have ask, do you know anything about this? Are you apart of it?


    Stuart always does that. He mimics someone else's name with one minor change.
    Ah, thank you! I'm still new at this, obviously. icon_wink.gif
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    May 08, 2014 4:53 AM GMT
    Who's Stuart? I've been here for a few years but don't recognize that name.icon_question.gif
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    May 08, 2014 4:54 AM GMT
    YVRguy saidWho's Stuart? I've been here for a few years but don't recognize that name.icon_question.gif


    I believe Stuart is Sustenance.
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    May 08, 2014 4:57 AM GMT
    Chicken flavored water? I think your biggest worry is possibly salmonella. icon_confused.gif

    Just keep in mind that most drugs will taste like.. drugs. Google says GHB has a salty taste. And roofies have a bitter taste. Should be noticeable in a glass of water. Soda or alcohol beverages is a different story.

    Don't drink/eat anything you have doubts about. Also, when meeting guys for the first time, tell someone where you're going and when you'll be back.
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    May 08, 2014 5:15 AM GMT
    I drink chilled, filtered tap at home (I love water and drink a lot) but I keep in the fridge drawer some bottles of water for guests or anyone coming into the house to do work on the cable or whatever. Aware that there is so much paranoia in the world, I either tell them to help themselves to a drink in the fridge or if I hand it to them I never twist the cap open for them, letting them hear that reassuring click when they open it. If they want a refill they've the option of taking another bottle or refilling their bottle from the filtered water themselves.

    I used to offer just regular drinks in glasses (I have dishwashered clean ones) to anyone visiting the house on business but I switched to this method after all the stories of people getting drugged. It might just be my imagination as no one says anything about it but people seem to really appreciate the effort to make sure they are comfortable. I think I see it in their faces, that split second moment of relief. The last thing you want to do is make your guests quench their thirst with a big sip of doubt.
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    May 08, 2014 5:16 AM GMT
    Sorry, don't mean to derail the thread, but don't know that it is Stuart, unless Stuart was also doing this same crap a couple years go. Who ever it is has been around for a while and pops up from time to time.
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    May 08, 2014 5:19 AM GMT
    A dirty glass? I'm not buying it. I'm sure the OP looked at the glass immediately when he caught the taste. Why a chicken smell? A glass of Chicken Juice that didn't get washed? Hmmf.

    The OP only had a sip so hardly a surprise nothing else happened. Maybe it was nothing more than crappy dish washing but that ought to set off warning bells anyways, lol.
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    May 08, 2014 5:20 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidSorry, don't mean to derail the thread, but don't know that it is Stuart, unless Stuart was also doing this same crap a couple years go. Who ever it is has been around for a while and pops up from time to time.


    Could be him. could be a copy cat, could be someone trolling. My initial impression was that it was a copy but I have no basis for that judgment, just how it struck me.
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    May 08, 2014 5:21 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidSorry, don't mean to derail the thread, but don't know that it is Stuart, unless Stuart was also doing this same crap a couple years go. Who ever it is has been around for a while and pops up from time to time.


    It has always been stuart.
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    May 08, 2014 5:22 AM GMT
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    AMoonHawk saidSorry, don't mean to derail the thread, but don't know that it is Stuart, unless Stuart was also doing this same crap a couple years go. Who ever it is has been around for a while and pops up from time to time.


    Could be him. could be a copy cat, could be someone trolling. My initial impression was that it was a copy but I have no basis for that judgment, just how it struck me.

    It's a copy cat. It's always been a copy cat.