Will the world ever be ready for a gay president?

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    May 10, 2014 7:18 AM GMT
    Im not at all into politics and all that, but i just randomly thought about this and want some opinions. While the stigma that all gays are hairstylists has been changed (i think) and it seems there's more acceptance/tolerance from the straighties, do you think this will ever translate to a LGBT president being elected into office? If so, which country would be likely to start that "revolution", looking at its current treatment of gay people? If not, why? Thoughts anyone?
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    May 10, 2014 7:33 AM GMT
    Yes.
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    May 10, 2014 8:49 AM GMT
    Cash saidYes.


    What makes you say that?

    BTW I had a similar thought the other day but not about presidents or prime ministers but I wondered if we would ever have a gay person as part of the royal family or even if there was a gay royal would they have to lie. I suspect there will never be an openly gay royal in the UK.
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    May 10, 2014 9:03 AM GMT
    The US is not ready for a gay president.
    It would be nice but in order for that to happen they must have a female president first and then maybe someday it might happen.
    Hillary wants that spot real bad tho so it might happen.
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    May 10, 2014 11:49 AM GMT
    Obviously yes!
    May be not right away, but surely!

    Which country?
    Well...it could be any! politics, people's opinions, culture, knowledge are changing very fast like climate, one just can't name or point out any specific day or time when it'll be rainy and when it'll be sunny unless it's happening in the immediate future.
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    May 10, 2014 12:08 PM GMT
    Danny_boy93 said
    Cash saidYes.


    What makes you say that?

    BTW I had a similar thought the other day but not about presidents or prime ministers but I wondered if we would ever have a gay person as part of the royal family or even if there was a gay royal would they have to lie. I suspect there will never be an openly gay royal in the UK.
    But..... we have and have had open gay and lesbian Members of the House's of Lords and Commons also we have and have had transgender mayors and mayoresses.
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    May 10, 2014 12:09 PM GMT
    And in the ultimate paradox the candidate will run as a gay-republican, receiving either all of the vote, or none of the vote!
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    May 10, 2014 12:52 PM GMT
    Alot of people tell me i should enter politics haha hey maybe i should lol then i become Prime Minister icon_biggrin.gif a English gay Prime Minister
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    May 10, 2014 1:07 PM GMT
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    May 10, 2014 1:08 PM GMT
    Danny_boy93 said
    Cash saidYes.


    What makes you say that?

    BTW I had a similar thought the other day but not about presidents or prime ministers but I wondered if we would ever have a gay person as part of the royal family or even if there was a gay royal would they have to lie. I suspect there will never be an openly gay royal in the UK.

    Edward II, said to be muscular and goodlooking. His boyfriend Piers Gaveston was executed by jealous nobles. Edward was eventually deposed and murdered by the lover of his vengeful wife.
    The murder weapon was supposedly a redhot poker rammed up his anus.
    Hopefully the next gay royal will have better luck.
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    May 10, 2014 1:40 PM GMT
    Will the world ever be ready for a gay president?

    No, not in the next few decades. And you need to distinguish "world" from the US.

    The world hailed the first Black US President. Whereas our own US Republicans hate a N***er being in their "White" House. They're doing everything they can to sabotage his Presidency, regardless of the cost to the nation. Just so long as a White Republican replaces him, backed by a White Republican Congress and a White Federal Court system.

    Should a gay be elected to be President, you can expect the same Republican sabotage. All in the name of Jesus and family values.

    Nor could much of the world welcome a gay US President. Muslims could not, and they're like a quarter of the population. Roman Catholics could not, and they're another billion-plus. Not sure about China, well over a billion there. Traditionally anti-gay, they may be realizing that accepting LGBT may help their overpopulation problem, as effectively as their failed 1-child policy.

    Of course this would give US homophobes more ammunition, that we shouldn't copy the godless "Commies". Problem for them is Putin's homophobic Commie Russia, and the Africa of their own making. Be interesting to see how this develops.

    But in any case, Right Wingers would try to sabotage a gay US President, just like they have a Black President. Be a straight White Protestant male or fail.
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    May 10, 2014 1:49 PM GMT
    The only viable way a gay man can ever be elected President of the US is to do the following:

    1. Permanently boot Texas out of the union since it is probably the most virulently homophobic state. It is the most un-American state.

    2. Reduce the number of electoral votes for the religious right wing dominated southern and western states like South Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Idaho.

    3. Start making Americans more scientifically literate. This will help them realize that homosexuality is just as pure, natural, and normal as heterosexuality.

    4. Prove to society that the overwhelming majority of GLBT Americans are hard working, tax paying, productive citizens.

    5. Get big money out of political campaigns.
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    May 10, 2014 1:50 PM GMT
    Republicans are going to attempt to sabotage anyone who defeats them in a presidential election, that's a given. At this point, a gay president could be elected, since the states that decide elections are socially moderate to liberal.
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    May 10, 2014 1:57 PM GMT
    What difference would it make? Would you vote for a gay just because he/she's gay?
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    May 10, 2014 1:58 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThe only viable way a gay man can ever be elected President of the US is to do the following:

    1. Permanently boot Texas out of the union since it is probably the most virulently homophobic state. It is the most un-American state.

    2. Reduce the number of electoral votes for the religious right wing dominated southern and western states like South Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Idaho.

    3. Start making Americans more scientifically literate. This will help them realize that homosexuality is just as pure, natural, and normal as heterosexuality.

    4. Prove to society that the overwhelming majority of GLBT Americans are hard working, tax paying, productive citizens.

    5. Get big money out of political campaigns.
    In more words than one educate people to think for them selves ?? icon_smile.gif also where above in the thread it was mentioned about a black president, in a sense was Obama not put in office really as a puppet and on purpose just for the sake of having a black president ???
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    May 10, 2014 1:58 PM GMT
    shawnathan saidWhat difference would it make? Would you vote for a gay just because he/she's gay?
    That is a good, valid pointicon_exclaim.gif
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    May 10, 2014 2:54 PM GMT
    shawnathan saidWhat difference would it make? Would you vote for a gay just because he/she's gay?


    The bigger question is who (and how many) would NOT vote for a qualified candidate just because he/she's Gay.
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    May 10, 2014 2:57 PM GMT
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    roadbikeRob saidThe only viable way a gay man can ever be elected President of the US is to do the following:

    1. Permanently boot Texas out of the union since it is probably the most virulently homophobic state. It is the most un-American state.

    2. Reduce the number of electoral votes for the religious right wing dominated southern and western states like South Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Idaho.

    3. Start making Americans more scientifically literate. This will help them realize that homosexuality is just as pure, natural, and normal as heterosexuality.

    4. Prove to society that the overwhelming majority of GLBT Americans are hard working, tax paying, productive citizens.

    5. Get big money out of political campaigns.
    In more words than one educate people to think for them selves ?? icon_smile.gif also where above in the thread it was mentioned about a black president, in a sense was Obama not put in office really as a puppet and on purpose just for the sake of having a black president ???


    No.
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    May 10, 2014 3:05 PM GMT
    Depends on what country you are talking about. Belgium's current PM is gay.

    As far as the US, I think it will be awhile but will happen eventually. We have a hard enough time people accepting Obama as the president, so I'm sure heads will spin with a gay person commander-in-chief.
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    May 10, 2014 3:06 PM GMT
    shawnathan saidWhat difference would it make? Would you vote for a gay just because he/she's gay?


    This +10,000,000
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    May 10, 2014 3:06 PM GMT
    Cash said
    shawnathan saidWhat difference would it make? Would you vote for a gay just because he/she's gay?


    The bigger question is who (and how many) would NOT vote for a qualified candidate just because he/she's Gay.


    This. One of our political parties had to select a new leader, who will run in the next election. The last two times a new leader was selected, a gay man in the running was mysteriously passed over, and this gay man would be perfect to lead the party to victory but....the ick factor over gay men in regards to voters. Gay women are treated much differently. *shrugs*
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    May 10, 2014 3:17 PM GMT
    Iceland already had a lesbian president (Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, 2009-2013). So the "world" is past "ready."
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    May 10, 2014 3:36 PM GMT
    Cash said
    shawnathan saidWhat difference would it make? Would you vote for a gay just because he/she's gay?


    The bigger question is who (and how many) would NOT vote for a qualified candidate just because he/she's Gay.


    Fair question, and appropriate response. Doubt there's anyone who can dispute that there are perfectly qualified candidates who've been overlooked simply because of they're orientation. So while i would rather look at policy and leadership instead of "who's running", lets not pretend like everyone would.
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    May 10, 2014 3:38 PM GMT
    e2ksj3355 saidDepends on what country you are talking about. Belgium's current PM is gay.

    As far as the US, I think it will be awhile but will happen eventually. We have a hard enough time people accepting Obama as the president, so I'm sure heads will spin with a gay person commander-in-chief.


    Wow, didn't know Belgium has an out gay PM. Thanks for that.
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    May 10, 2014 3:40 PM GMT
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    Cash said
    shawnathan saidWhat difference would it make? Would you vote for a gay just because he/she's gay?


    The bigger question is who (and how many) would NOT vote for a qualified candidate just because he/she's Gay.


    This. One of our political parties had to select a new leader, who will run in the next election. The last two times a new leader was selected, a gay man in the running was mysteriously passed over, and this gay man would be perfect to lead the party to victory but....the ick factor over gay men in regards to voters. Gay women are treated much differently. *shrugs*


    How are gay women in politics treated differently? Do they have it "easier"?