Nintendo Apologizes for Keeping Same Sex Couples Out of Game

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    May 11, 2014 2:19 PM GMT
    Nintendo is apologizing and pledging to be more inclusive after being criticized for not recognizing same-sex relationships in English editions of a life-simulator video game. The publisher said that while it was too late to change the current game, it was committed to building virtual equality into future versions if they're produced.

    Nintendo came under fire from fans and gay rights organizations this past week after refusing to add same-sex relationship options to the game "Tomodachi Life."


    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/nintendo-apologizes-lack-virtual-equality-23668564
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    May 12, 2014 2:27 PM GMT
    This is the dawning of the age of apology.
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    May 12, 2014 3:02 PM GMT
    ∆ .....and self loathing. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 13, 2014 5:10 AM GMT
    Well the same sex feature was originally a bug in the game, which Nintendo fixed. I'm glad that the creator of the campaign doesn't believe Nintendo to be homophobic because they've had a very much loved transgender character named Birdo who thinks she's a girl since 1988...

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    May 13, 2014 8:49 AM GMT
    southern89 saidWell the same sex feature was originally a bug in the game, which Nintendo fixed.

    What was a bug? That the game DID allow same sex pairings? If they could fix that, why can't they UN-fix it and restore same-sex matches? The article says Nintendo is unable to do so, until "future versions IF they're produced." [Emphasis mine] That doesn't sound very definite.
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    May 13, 2014 2:40 PM GMT
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    southern89 saidWell the same sex feature was originally a bug in the game, which Nintendo fixed.

    What was a bug? That the game DID allow same sex pairings? If they could fix that, why can't they UN-fix it and restore same-sex matches? The article says Nintendo is unable to do so, until "future versions IF they're produced." [Emphasis mine] That doesn't sound very definite.


    >actually looking into the glitch that caused this<

    There wasn't a glitch that allowed same sex marriage at all.

    It was not in the game at all.

    It only allowed same sex pairings by getting female characters to look and dress like male characters. This occurred because people saw Japanese fans posting game screenshots of male and female Mii characters, where female Mii characters were designed and clothed in such a way that they looked male. Since these explanations were made in Japanese by the Japanese fans who posted the images, the Japanese people do not have such a misunderstanding.
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    May 13, 2014 3:38 PM GMT
    Jack_NNJ saidThis is the dawning of the age of apology.


    Nothing Aquarian about this, that's for sure. This is an apology in search of a slight.
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    May 13, 2014 3:43 PM GMT
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    Jack_NNJ saidThis is the dawning of the age of apology.

    Nothing Aquarian about this, that's for sure. This is an apology in search of a slight.

    Only a slight if you're gay and want to play this video game. Which forces you to become romantically involved with an opposite-sex character. I wonder that you can't see that. icon_question.gif
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    May 13, 2014 4:15 PM GMT
    The game does not force you to get into a relationship at all

    From what I've noticed, gender among player avatars doesn't mean anything in video games. Girl players play as girl characters. Girl players play as boy characters. Boy players play as boy characters. And boy players play as girl characters.

    But why stop at this? How come people haven't been raising awareness that the move 'attract' does not affect same sex pokemon in the games Pokemon
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    May 14, 2014 7:17 AM GMT
    From a gaming perspective, it's additionally frustrating when this happens because limiting video games to only heterosexual pairings requires extra work to be put in the game. They talk about 'allowing' gay couples in these games, but once all of the coding is in for romance and marriage, limiting it to straight couples requires going in and specifically saying that only male-female pairings are allowed. It's actually extra work to limit it. So there is no 'allowing' it, there's only banning it, which they seem to have done here.
    But Nintendo isn't homophobic, I'm surprised this was an issue in the first place.
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    May 14, 2014 1:43 PM GMT
    southern89 saidThe game does not force you to get into a relationship at all

    Forming romantic relationships are a key part of the game. As the person who launched a social media campaign about this notes:

    "I want to be able to marry my real-life fiancé's Mii, but I can't do that," Marini said in a video posted online that attracted the attention of gaming sites and online forums this past week. "My only options are to marry some female Mii, to change the gender of either my Mii or my fiancé's Mii or to completely avoid marriage altogether and miss out on the exclusive content that comes with it."

    In other words, not being able to marry DOES limit your gaming experience, and so in that sense to fully experience the entire game you must indeed get "married" on it.

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    May 14, 2014 1:48 PM GMT
    Kris3 saidFrom a gaming perspective, it's additionally frustrating when this happens because limiting video games to only heterosexual pairings requires extra work to be put in the game. They talk about 'allowing' gay couples in these games, but once all of the coding is in for romance and marriage, limiting it to straight couples requires going in and specifically saying that only male-female pairings are allowed. It's actually extra work to limit it. So there is no 'allowing' it, there's only banning it, which they seem to have done here.
    But Nintendo isn't homophobic, I'm surprised this was an issue in the first place.

    Interesting analysis, although I'm not a programmer. The article does say that Nintendo initially made the game for japan, where same-sex marriage is not permitted. So that this reflects Japanese cultural values, which has not translated well to Europe and North America, where SS marriage is legal in many places. Nintendo may not be deliberately homophobic, but rather, culturally insensitive.
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    May 14, 2014 3:40 PM GMT
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    MGINSD said
    Jack_NNJ saidThis is the dawning of the age of apology.

    Nothing Aquarian about this, that's for sure. This is an apology in search of a slight.

    Only a slight if you're gay and want to play this video game. Which forces you to become romantically involved with an opposite-sex character. I wonder that you can't see that. icon_question.gif


    No wonder at all: I don't play video games; I live a life.
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    May 14, 2014 8:25 PM GMT
    I'm going to get flamed for this, but I really don't care..

    I read a very interesting statement when actually looking into the problem instead of relying on a biased news site.

    No matter what, this was a losing battle for Nintendo. There would have been a problem whether they had same sex marriage or not.

    Nintendo did an easy but smart play though. There are radicals out there who are extremely bent on not supporting anything homosexual related especially for a product their child could very much play. A radical like this would boycott anything Nintendo makes resulting in a major lose of products sold by Nintendo, which Nintendo honestly cannot afford right now. I DO NOT agree with this, but that is reality.

    For someone who is gay and is actually playing a game which has a dating simulation aspect seriously, this is an annoyance..

    Nintendo is clearly not homophobic looking at all of the gay innuendos and gay characters throughout their games, and even the creator of the twitter campaign sees this. I imagine he and people like him wouldn't radically boycott the brand.

    In the end, Nintendo apologizes saying they'll add a same sex marriage feature into future games. Everyone now wins. Homosexuals will feel represented if they don't feel like choosing to make the superior Princess Toadstool or Samus Aran as their Japanese wifu, and heterosexual radicals will think that Nintendo is just surrendering to a messy situation to avoid conflict (actually happening)
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    May 14, 2014 9:20 PM GMT
    Go play the Sims..or dragon age
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    May 14, 2014 10:42 PM GMT
    So you mean to tell me i dont have to sell my Wii U on kijiji?
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    May 16, 2014 3:45 AM GMT
    _Behemoth_ saidGo play the Sims..or dragon age


    Sims ♥.
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    May 16, 2014 7:06 PM GMT
    I want to make Link from LoZ gay, but he won't even get with the princess (or anyone) icon_sad.gificon_lol.gif

    Maybe he's in the closet or asexual.
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    May 16, 2014 7:22 PM GMT
    MGINSD said
    Art_Deco said
    MGINSD said
    Jack_NNJ saidThis is the dawning of the age of apology.

    Nothing Aquarian about this, that's for sure. This is an apology in search of a slight.

    Only a slight if you're gay and want to play this video game. Which forces you to become romantically involved with an opposite-sex character. I wonder that you can't see that. icon_question.gif

    No wonder at all: I don't play video games; I live a life.

    Then you shouldn't be offering comments about this, should you?
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    May 17, 2014 12:10 AM GMT
    Video on representation in video games

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPVjgTG1Rqg
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    May 17, 2014 12:57 PM GMT
    LC92 saidI want to make Link from LoZ gay, but he won't even get with the princess (or anyone) icon_sad.gificon_lol.gif

    Maybe he's in the closet or asexual.


    I reckon Link was disappointed when Sheik turned out to be Zelda.
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    May 18, 2014 8:48 PM GMT
    MGINSD said
    Art_Deco said
    MGINSD said
    Jack_NNJ saidThis is the dawning of the age of apology.

    Nothing Aquarian about this, that's for sure. This is an apology in search of a slight.

    Only a slight if you're gay and want to play this video game. Which forces you to become romantically involved with an opposite-sex character. I wonder that you can't see that. icon_question.gif


    No wonder at all: I don't play video games; I live a life.


    Wow that must suck, I have tons of lives.
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    May 19, 2014 4:01 AM GMT
    MGINSD said
    Art_Deco said
    MGINSD said
    Jack_NNJ saidThis is the dawning of the age of apology.

    Nothing Aquarian about this, that's for sure. This is an apology in search of a slight.

    Only a slight if you're gay and want to play this video game. Which forces you to become romantically involved with an opposite-sex character. I wonder that you can't see that. icon_question.gif


    No wonder at all: I don't play video games; I live a life.


    So you've never played chess? Or checkers? Or Monopoly? And you've never played a game of cards? Ever? Video games are no different than playing a board game so your condescending attitude is really out of place.